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276PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/1/2021, 3:23 am

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https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/01/biden-pledged-follow-the-science-but-hes-fallen-short/

278PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/1/2021, 4:39 pm

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279PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/7/2021, 6:15 pm

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NEW DETAILS EMERGE ABOUT CORONAVIRUS RESEARCH AT CHINESE LAB

More than 900 pages of materials related to US.-funded coronavirus research in China were released following a FOIA lawsuit by The Intercept.

"According to Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University, the documents contain critical information about the research done in Wuhan, including about the creation of novel viruses. “The viruses they constructed were tested for their ability to infect mice that were engineered to display human type receptors on their cell,” Ebright wrote to The Intercept after reviewing the documents. Ebright also said the documents make it clear that two different types of novel coronaviruses were able to infect humanized mice. “While they were working on SARS-related coronavirus, they were carrying out a parallel project at the same time on MERS-related coronavirus,” Ebright said, referring to the virus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome."

https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/

280PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/9/2021, 7:12 pm

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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#AgeAndSex

281PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/10/2021, 9:18 am

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MANDATES AHOY!!

Very Happy Laughing Very Happy

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282PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/10/2021, 10:08 am

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Sal wrote:MANDATES AHOY!!

Very Happy Laughing Very Happy

Real science be damned. Useful idiots love them some unconstitutional social edicts.

283PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/10/2021, 10:29 am

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PkrBum wrote:
Real science be damned. Useful idiots love them some unconstitutional social edicts.

Completely and unequivocally wrong on both the science and constitutional law, all in one short and insipid post.

That’s your daily double, folks!

Is there anything you’re not wrong about? [rhetorical]

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284PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/10/2021, 10:31 am

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BTW, with your stupid sig line, you’ve managed to completely fuck up the way the forum formats.

As if your horseshit posts weren’t bad enough.

You suck.

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285PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/10/2021, 12:05 pm

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Good ol' "pro-life" Mississippi conservatives and their heroic baby-savin', shootin' themselves right in the ding-ding again. You just can't un-dumb these fucks.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/stillbirths-doubled-during-covid-mississippi-204728974.html


Mississippi has recorded 72 fetal deaths in unvaccinated pregnant women infected with the coronavirus, state health officials announced Wednesday, sounding the alarm on the virus's danger in pregnancy.

Speaking during a news conference, Mississippi State Health Officer Thomas Dobbs said those deaths had occurred since the start of the pandemic. The number, which includes only deaths that occurred past 20 weeks of gestation, "is twice the background rate of what would be expected," he said.

Mississippi has recorded 72 fetal deaths in unvaccinated pregnant women infected with the coronavirus, state health officials announced Wednesday, sounding the alarm on the virus's danger in pregnancy.

Speaking during a news conference, Mississippi State Health Officer Thomas Dobbs said those deaths had occurred since the start of the pandemic. The number, which includes only deaths that occurred past 20 weeks of gestation, "is twice the background rate of what would be expected," he said.

"That's quite a number of tragedies that, sadly, would be preventable right now," Dobbs said, referring to the availability of vaccines.

He said the state is also investigating the deaths of eight pregnant women who were infected with the virus. Those deaths occurred over approximately the past four weeks, during the delta variant-fueled surge, he said. Many underwent emergency Caesarean sections in an attempt to save their babies.

Citing those cases, Dobbs and other state health leaders urged those who are pregnant to get the shot that can protect them from the virus.
"We encourage you to please get vaccinated," said State Epidemiologist Paul Byers, noting that his daughter had recently delivered a healthy baby after rolling up her sleeve. "That's going to be the best way to ensure that you and your babies stay healthy."

Research has found that pregnant and recently pregnant women face a higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19, with an increased likelihood of requiring hospitalization, intensive care and use of a ventilator. Those who contract the virus in pregnancy are also at greater risk of preterm birth.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last month began urging coronavirus vaccination in pregnant women, after studies found no increased risk of miscarriage among those who got the shots. Immunization rates are low in the expectant population, with just 24% having received at least one shot, according to the CDC.

"The vaccines are safe and effective, and it has never been more urgent to increase vaccinations as we face the highly transmissible Delta variant and see severe outcomes from covid-19 among unvaccinated pregnant people," CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said in a statement last month.

In Mississippi, the overall vaccination rate has remained stubbornly low. With just under 40% fully vaccinated and 48% partially vaccinated, its vaccination rate is second-to-last in the nation.

The delta variant has hit hard in the state, where recent weeks have been the worst of the pandemic, according to data compiled by The Washington Post. The average number of infections was hovering at about 2,800, down from the 3,586 recorded Aug. 20, but still far above the numbers seen before this summer.

Almost 1,300 people were hospitalized, and the state recorded its highest number to die in a single day Monday, with 124. Per capita, it is now second in the nation in total coronavirus deaths, at 285. (New Jersey, the leader in deaths per capita, stands at 303.)

Dobbs lamented the state's standing during a live-streamed discussion Friday with Mississippi State Medical Association President Mark Horne, saying that "it doesn't have to be this way."

"In Mississippi, we're complacent about being last," Dobbs said. "Aren't we? And if you see some folks out there talking, they're saying, 'This is inevitable; people are going to die; it's not worth trying.' That is a loser mentality, right? Other people don't do this badly."

He noted that the state recorded almost 900 deaths in August, including 61 in people who were between 18 and 31 years old.

"Not a single one of them was vaccinated," Dobbs said. "I feel confident, if they had been vaccinated, every single one of those people would be with us today. It's a stark and painful truth, but it's just what reality shows."

My mom's been dealing with a niece who's been vaccine-hesitant because she believed a bunch of right-wing Facebook horseshit about the vaccine making you sterile. I sent her this article, hoping she can pass it on and maybe wise the moron up before she hurts herself. But she's so mired in right-wing bullshit that she's part of the Pickering Crime Family, so I'm not sure if ANYTHING will sink in with her.

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286PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/10/2021, 1:51 pm

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Here’s the polling on mandated vaccinations from five swing states;

Arizona
• Favor: 68%
• Oppose: 32%

Georgia
• Favor: 63%
• Oppose: 37%

Michigan
• Favor: 61%
• Oppose: 39%

Pennsylvania
• Favor: 64%
• Oppose: 36%

Wisconsin
• Favor: 68%
• Oppose: 32%


Well played, Joe.

Well played.

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287PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/11/2021, 11:42 am

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PkrBum wrote:
Sal wrote:MANDATES AHOY!!

Very Happy Laughing Very Happy

Real science be damned. Useful idiots love them some unconstitutional social edicts.

What the hell is this oversized chart from the CDC? If you're trying to make a statement about something, resize your chart and make your case. Or just STFU, which would be better.

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288PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/11/2021, 12:28 pm

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zsomething wrote:Good ol' "pro-life" Mississippi conservatives and their heroic baby-savin', shootin' themselves right in the ding-ding again.  You just can't un-dumb these fucks.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/stillbirths-doubled-during-covid-mississippi-204728974.html


Mississippi has recorded 72 fetal deaths in unvaccinated pregnant women infected with the coronavirus, state health officials announced Wednesday, sounding the alarm on the virus's danger in pregnancy.

Speaking during a news conference, Mississippi State Health Officer Thomas Dobbs said those deaths had occurred since the start of the pandemic. The number, which includes only deaths that occurred past 20 weeks of gestation, "is twice the background rate of what would be expected," he said.

Mississippi has recorded 72 fetal deaths in unvaccinated pregnant women infected with the coronavirus, state health officials announced Wednesday, sounding the alarm on the virus's danger in pregnancy.

Speaking during a news conference, Mississippi State Health Officer Thomas Dobbs said those deaths had occurred since the start of the pandemic. The number, which includes only deaths that occurred past 20 weeks of gestation, "is twice the background rate of what would be expected," he said.

"That's quite a number of tragedies that, sadly, would be preventable right now," Dobbs said, referring to the availability of vaccines.

He said the state is also investigating the deaths of eight pregnant women who were infected with the virus. Those deaths occurred over approximately the past four weeks, during the delta variant-fueled surge, he said. Many underwent emergency Caesarean sections in an attempt to save their babies.

Citing those cases, Dobbs and other state health leaders urged those who are pregnant to get the shot that can protect them from the virus.
"We encourage you to please get vaccinated," said State Epidemiologist Paul Byers, noting that his daughter had recently delivered a healthy baby after rolling up her sleeve. "That's going to be the best way to ensure that you and your babies stay healthy."

Research has found that pregnant and recently pregnant women face a higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19, with an increased likelihood of requiring hospitalization, intensive care and use of a ventilator. Those who contract the virus in pregnancy are also at greater risk of preterm birth.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last month began urging coronavirus vaccination in pregnant women, after studies found no increased risk of miscarriage among those who got the shots. Immunization rates are low in the expectant population, with just 24% having received at least one shot, according to the CDC.

"The vaccines are safe and effective, and it has never been more urgent to increase vaccinations as we face the highly transmissible Delta variant and see severe outcomes from covid-19 among unvaccinated pregnant people," CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said in a statement last month.

In Mississippi, the overall vaccination rate has remained stubbornly low. With just under 40% fully vaccinated and 48% partially vaccinated, its vaccination rate is second-to-last in the nation.

The delta variant has hit hard in the state, where recent weeks have been the worst of the pandemic, according to data compiled by The Washington Post. The average number of infections was hovering at about 2,800, down from the 3,586 recorded Aug. 20, but still far above the numbers seen before this summer.

Almost 1,300 people were hospitalized, and the state recorded its highest number to die in a single day Monday, with 124. Per capita, it is now second in the nation in total coronavirus deaths, at 285. (New Jersey, the leader in deaths per capita, stands at 303.)

Dobbs lamented the state's standing during a live-streamed discussion Friday with Mississippi State Medical Association President Mark Horne, saying that "it doesn't have to be this way."

"In Mississippi, we're complacent about being last," Dobbs said. "Aren't we? And if you see some folks out there talking, they're saying, 'This is inevitable; people are going to die; it's not worth trying.' That is a loser mentality, right? Other people don't do this badly."

He noted that the state recorded almost 900 deaths in August, including 61 in people who were between 18 and 31 years old.

"Not a single one of them was vaccinated," Dobbs said. "I feel confident, if they had been vaccinated, every single one of those people would be with us today. It's a stark and painful truth, but it's just what reality shows."

My mom's been dealing with a niece who's been vaccine-hesitant because she believed a bunch of right-wing Facebook horseshit about the vaccine making you sterile.  I sent her this article, hoping she can pass it on and maybe wise the moron up before she hurts herself.  But she's so mired in right-wing bullshit that she's part of the Pickering Crime Family, so I'm not sure if ANYTHING will sink in with her.

I heard the same from my dermatologist's nurse. Hearing that was a first for me, because I don't frequent right-wing "news" sites.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/07/20/1016912079/the-life-cycle-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-lie

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289PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/11/2021, 1:06 pm

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3,000 people die: “a 4 ounce shampoo bottle is a deadly weapon.”

660,000 people die: “our job is to be polite to the people who prefer horse paste over a free, safe and effective vaccine.”

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290PANDUMBIC - Page 12 Empty Re: PANDUMBIC 9/11/2021, 3:59 pm

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Tea Party Patriots Are Behind Pro-Trump Doctors Grifting Off of Fake Covid Cures


By Alex Kotch | September 9th, 2021 at 2:56 PM (CDT)

When the political arm of the far-right Council for National Policy met in May 2020, officials discussed doing damage control for then-President Donald Trump, whose reckless administration caused unnecessary deaths as Covid-19 swept the nation and devastated the economy.

As the Center for Media and Democracy first exposed, members of the sister group CNP Action shared plans to promote a group of pro-Trump doctors who would urge economies to reopen before meeting safety benchmarks proposed by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

The primary doctor to emerge from these plans was Simone Gold, an emergency medical specialist who leads the doctor group, America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLD), which has consistently spread misinformation about Covid, opposed vaccinations and mask use, and hawked unapproved Covid-19 drugs. Gold was arrested and charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct after she entered the U.S. Capitol during the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection.

In May, Gold’s group asked a federal court in Alabama to block the emergency use authorization for the Covid vaccine in 12-to 15-year-olds, arguing that the vaccines are potentially more harmful than Covid-19, which has killed over 4.5 million people worldwide. Top GOP attorney Jim Bopp is AFLD’s director of litigation.

Another member, pediatrician and minister Stella Immanuel, has made outrageous statements, claiming that DNA from space aliens is used in medicine and that demons cause ailments such as fibroid tumors and cysts.

The Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) obtained AFLD’s federal tax-exemption application and other related documents, which reveal that the Tea Party Patriots Foundation was the fiscal sponsor of the group behind AFLD, meaning that it accepts tax-deductible donations on behalf of the doctors’ group and helps it with accounting. A fiscal sponsor allows an organization that has not received its 501(c)(3) charitable tax status to accept tax-deductible donations.




According to the documents, the Arizona-based nonprofit behind AFLD, formerly known as the Free Speech Foundation and now called the Common Sense Foundation, anticipated a 2020 revenue of $400,000. Starting in 2021, the group forecast a budget of over $900,000, including $231,000 in compensation for officers and $50,000 for lobbying.

The application includes information about “membership.”

In exchange for a requested donation of $10, the Foundation will offer the public the opportunity to become “members” of the Foundation. Members receive early access to the Foundation’s white papers, pamphlets and similar materials informing them of the Foundation’s activities before such materials are released to the general public.

Aside from Gold, the foundation’s board consists of Trump fan Amy Orkin Landau and Claudia Kreitenberg, who “manages client relationships” for InDefend, a company run by Gold that makes software that helps medical professionals respond to audits.

In May, the nonprofit received its charitable tax status from the IRS. It is unclear if the Tea Party Patriots Foundation is still a donation conduit for the Common Sense Foundation.

The Tea Party Patriots is an extremist group founded in 2009 that helped organize the rally and march to the Capitol just before the violent insurrection. The organization has three arms: the 501(c)(3) foundation, the “social welfare” nonprofit Tea Party Patriots Action, and the Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund, a super PAC. In the 2020 election cycle, the super PAC spent over $1 million backing Trump.

The biggest donor to the super PAC that cycle by far was Richard Uihlein, the billionaire owner of shipping supply company Uline and a Tea Party financier since 2016. He and his wife, Liz, are GOP megadonors, and they were among the biggest contributors to groups that helped elect the members of Congress who voted to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. The biggest donor to the super PAC this year is Gore-Tex heir David Gore, who gave $150,000 and previously co-founded the libertarian Cascade Policy Institute, a member of the State Policy Network, a web of right-wing tax-exempt organizations.

Other known donors to the Tea Party Patriots Foundation include salsa billionaire Christopher Goldsbury, right-wing dark money vehicles DonorsTrust and Donors Capital Fund, the FreedomWorks Foundation, Helen Diller Family Foundation, and donor-advised funds including the Jewish Community Federation.

The Tea Party Patriots Foundation did not return CMD’s request for comment on AFLD’s money-making scheme.

Grifting Off of Fake Covid Cures
In late July 2020, the Tea Party Patriots hosted and funded an event with members of AFLD in front of the Capitol, where the doctors criticized business and school closings, social distancing, and mask wearing and claimed that malaria drug hydroxychloroquine could prevent and cure Covid-19. With a Trump retweet, a video of the event went viral, and right-wing media ran with it. The Food and Drug Administration has cautioned against using hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19.

Many members of AFLD have more recently added a deworming drug, ivermectin, into their arsenal. These doctors, right-wing politicians, and numerous media pundits have promoted the drug, which requires a prescription for use in humans, as a Covid-19 treatment. Another version meant for cows and horses is available at animal supply stores.

Unable to access the human version of ivermectin, desperate anti-vaxxers have snapped up supplies of the livestock version, despite warnings by its manufacturer and numerous U.S. and international government agencies against humans using the drug. Feed stores in numerous states have seen huge spikes in ivermectin sales, and ivermectin-related poison control calls in these states have dramatically increased.


One person who self-administered the drug was hospitalized in Mississippi. Others who acted on this misinformation may be experiencing gastrointestinal issues, bad medication interactions, and even neurological symptoms, but AFLD is doing pretty well.

As Time and NBC News reported, AFLD set up a website advertising medical consultations for $90. The site asks patients which treatment they prefer: “Ivermectin,” “Hydroxychloroquine” or “Not sure.”

Under the federal COVID-19 Consumer Protection Act from earlier this year, it is illegal to advertise that a product can prevent, treat, or cure COVID-19 “unless you possess competent and reliable scientific evidence substantiating that the claims are true.” The FDA says that no such study exists for ivermectin.

While the site claims that the $90 payment is “pending” until the consultation is complete, customers identified by Time said they’d been charged for consultations that didn’t happen. Hundreds more said that after paying the fee, AFLD didn’t deliver the desired prescription, and others said that the digital pharmacies that AFLD connected them to quoted very high prices of up to $700 for ivermectin, which is not a costly drug.

“They’re the 21st century, digital version of snake-oil salesmen,” Irwin Redlener, a physician who directs the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University, told Time. “And in the case of ivermectin, it’s extremely dangerous.”

More Connections to the Far-Right Political Movement
Gold is on the “National Leadership Council” of the Save Our Country coalition, a collection of far-right individuals associated with the Council for National Policy, the Heritage Foundation, FreedomWorks, and the Tea Party Patriots, among other groups. Save Our Country was active last year when governors shut down their states’ economies because of Covid-19.

Additional Save Our Country council members and “steering committee” members include activist Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, American Legislative Exchange Council CEO Lisa Nelson, American Conservative Union Chair Matt Schlapp, and Frank Gaffney, founder of the anti-Muslim hate group the Center for Security Policy, as well as doctors Clare Gray and William Grace.

The Council for National Policy, which dreamed up America’s Frontline Doctors, is a coalition that author Anne Nelson describes as bringing together “the manpower and media of the Christian right with the finances of Western plutocrats and the strategy of right-wing Republican political operatives.”

At an August 2020 Council for National Policy meeting, Gold joined Tea Party Patriots Action’s Honorary Chairman Jenny Beth Martin, Teryn Clarke, M.D., Dan Erickson, D.O., and James Todaro, M.D. for a panel titled, “Protecting the Doctor-Patient Relationship During COVID.”

Gold has also spewed misinformation alongside Beth Martin at Freedom Rallies, on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show, at a Turning Point USA conference, and on the “ReAwaken America Tour.” Gold and AFLD have more recently been speaking at anti-vaccine events in Los Angeles and other cities.

https://www.exposedbycmd.org/2021/09/09/tea-party-patriots-are-behind-pro-trump-doctors-grifting-off-of-fake-covid-cures/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=74f7eeaf-9e07-4c40-9f60-7b595573b6eb

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/natural-immunity-covid-19-legality-substitute-vaccination-123106323.html

The scientific arguments are based on certain studies over the past year, including the Israel study, and studies out of Cleveland Clinic and Washington University.

A June study that tracked 52,238 Cleveland Clinic employees found that within 1,359 previously infected and unvaccinated people, none contracted a subsequent COVID-19 infection over the five-month study. The findings led authors to conclude that prior infection makes a person “unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination.” Nevertheless, Cleveland Clinic stated afterwards that it continued to recommend vaccination for people previously infected, stressing that the research was conducted in late 2020 and early 2021 before the emergence of the Delta variant.


The 673,676-person Israeli study found that people who recovered from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection and remained unvaccinated were 27 times less likely to experience symptomatic reinfection from the Delta variant when compared to those who had not been infected and received two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The study also found that previously infected people who received a single dose of the vaccine received additional protection against the Delta variant.

In a smaller study conducted by Washington University School of Medicine and published in Nature, senior author Ali Ellebedy, PhD, an associate professor of medicine and of molecular microbiology, found antibody-producing cells in the bone marrow of 15 of 19 study subjects 11 months after their first COVID-19 symptoms. "These cells will live and produce antibodies for the rest of people’s lives. That’s strong evidence for long-lasting immunity,” Ellebedy said.

In terms of legal arguments, George Mason University Foundation law professor and Cato Institute senior fellow Todd Zywicki legally challenged the university’s vaccine mandate and later reached an arrangement that led to dropping the suit.

Zywicki told Yahoo Finance that while government entities have a right to take reasonable precautions against the spread of communicable diseases, that power has its limits. Those limits, according to Zywicki, are grounded in the 1905 Supreme Court decision Jacobson v. Massachusetts that upheld a state smallpox vaccine mandate, though the precedent may be challenged given legal and scientific evolution.

“That was a different medical era,” Zywicki said. “There was no way to confirm whether you had a prior infection and recovery, which is obviously the case now."

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Delta does not appear to make children sicker; Secondary immune response stronger after infection than after shot

https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-does-not-appear-children-184145040.html

Secondary immune response stronger after infection than vaccination

In COVID-19 survivors, important components of the body's immune response called memory B cells continue to evolve and get stronger for at least several months, producing highly potent antibodies that can neutralize new variants of the virus, a new study has found. By comparison, vaccine-induced memory B cells are less robust, evolving for only a few weeks and never "learning" to protect against variants, researchers reported in a paper published on Thursday in Nature https://go.nature.com/3AjGx2B. COVID-19 vaccines do induce more antibodies than the immune system does after a coronavirus infection. But the immune system response to infection appears to outshine its response to vaccines when it comes to memory B cells. Regardless of whether antibodies are induced by infection or vaccine, their levels drop within six months in many people. But memory B cells stand ready to produce new antibodies if the body encounters the virus. Prior to this study, there had been little data on how vaccine-induced B cells compare to infection-induced B cells.

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An unexpected benefit of vaccine mandates, is they are incredibly effective and efficient at removing idiots and white nationalists from the military and law enforcement.

Winning!!

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https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/

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