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The Trump FISA and Text Dump

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RealLindaL
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26The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/18/2018, 8:42 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

polecat wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Your president is THE classification authority. He can declassify whatever he wants within the statutes.

I didn't say he didn't have the power.  I said he was ABUSING his power -- and that's what's perfectly clear to the rational mind.

Why are you against transparency? It'll all go through congress first to make sure there's no collateral damage.


For "transparency and accountability" don't cherry pick release all or nothing.

This is not Drumpf being transparent. This is Drumpf trying desperately to divert attention away from his own criminal behavior.

27The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 1:50 am

RealLindaL



Floridatexan wrote:
polecat wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Your president is THE classification authority. He can declassify whatever he wants within the statutes.

I didn't say he didn't have the power.  I said he was ABUSING his power -- and that's what's perfectly clear to the rational mind.

Why are you against transparency? It'll all go through congress first to make sure there's no collateral damage.


For "transparency and accountability" don't cherry pick release all or nothing.

This is not Drumpf being transparent.  This is Drumpf trying desperately to divert attention away from his own criminal behavior.

...and/or to interfere in an ongoing investigation of which he himself is a subject. It's just WRONG.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Just look at all the promises he made ...

Military victories: We're now fighting in 76 countries and not one war that was going on when Trump was elected by a minority of the voters, has ended.

North Korea: He loves good ole Kim, who plays him almost as easily as good ole Vladimir. Russia has introduced new weaponry aimed at our destruction, and Rocket Man is still producing fissionable material.

Trade: The Donald promised to make our trade with other countries fair to both sides. We're now in a trade war with several countries, including China and the results will increase middle and poverty-class cost of living expenses.

Tax cuts: While business for big corporations and small companies is more profitable, cost of living expenses for the rest of us continue to rise and wages have not done the same.

Increasing U.S. influence in the world: Under Trump's whacko leadership, we've made ourselves untrustworthy to ALL our former allies. Canada, England, France, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, even Patagonia agree with more than 60% of the American people that Trump is bonkers.

While pretending he's a devout Christian (who doesn't read any book, let alone the Bible), and securing fervent support of Evangelist Leaders, Herr Twitler's list of unfaithful trysts with porn stars, ex-playmates and more than 25 other women on the "I fucked Trump" list continues to grow and fester.
When Stormy Daniels asked him before sex how he felt cheating on Melania and 4-month-old Barron, he told her "It's okay. We have separate bedrooms."

A journalist outfit who specializes in fact checking claims that Trump's lies since his inauguration now exceed 5,000.

So tell us Pkrbum, please, just what qualities do you admire in your President?

29The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 5:42 am

PkrBum

PkrBum

Wordslinger wrote:Just look at all the promises he made  ...

Military victories:  We're now fighting in 76 countries and not one war that was going on when Trump was elected by a minority of the voters, has ended.

North Korea:  He loves good ole Kim, who plays him almost as easily as good ole Vladimir.  Russia has introduced new weaponry aimed at our destruction, and Rocket Man is still producing fissionable material.

Trade:  The Donald promised to make our trade with other countries fair to both sides.  We're now in a trade war with several countries, including China and the results will increase middle and poverty-class cost of living expenses.

Tax cuts:  While business for big corporations and small companies is more profitable, cost of living expenses for the rest of us continue to rise and wages have not done the same.

Increasing U.S. influence in the world:  Under Trump's whacko leadership, we've made ourselves untrustworthy to ALL our former allies.  Canada, England, France, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, even Patagonia agree with more than 60% of the American people that Trump is bonkers.

While pretending he's a devout Christian (who doesn't read any book, let alone the Bible), and securing fervent support of Evangelist Leaders, Herr Twitler's list of unfaithful trysts with porn stars, ex-playmates and more than 25 other women on the "I fucked Trump" list continues to grow and fester.
When Stormy Daniels asked him before sex how he felt cheating on Melania and 4-month-old Barron, he told her "It's okay.  We have separate bedrooms."

A journalist outfit who specializes in fact checking claims that Trump's lies since his inauguration now exceed 5,000.

So tell us Pkrbum, please, just what qualities do you admire in your President?


As you know... i didn't and wouldn't vote for trump. I don't like the man. That said... he's better than hillary.

And if promises really mattered to you... you'd have condemned and railed against obama and hillary.

30The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 8:46 am

Telstar

Telstar

Sometimes we need the Beast in office, if only to oust him and turn the country into Beauty.



31The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 9:59 am

zsomething



PkrBum wrote:

As you know... i didn't and wouldn't vote for trump.

I'm starting to wonder if you can vote. Really, you don't actually stand for a goddamn thing. You just sit on the sidelines with your little peeping-chicken commentary and claiming things like...



I don't like the man.

... while you flip out defending everything he does. You're his chief ball-washer and then you expect people to believe you when you say "I don't even like him." Then how 'bout you criticize him once in a while instead of defending every goddamn thing he does, you simpering idiot? You're up the man's ass like a tapeworm, making excuses for everything he does and attacking everybody who tries to hold him accountable, and then you expect anyone to take your word for it that you don't like him and wouldn't vote for him.

Yeah? We're supposed to take your word? Base ON WHAT EVIDENCE, you low-watt bitch?

God, you are so tiresome. You don't know yourself at all. You're a clown.

Don't tell us what you think. Show us what you defend and what you attack and we'll tell you what you think.


That said... he's better than hillary.

And you say this based on fuckin' nothin'. This country would still be arguing if Hillary had won, just because you morons have been trained to hate her for decades, but we wouldn't be an international joke, alienating our allies, cozying up to tyrants, getting in idiotic trade wars, and having some new nasty story on the news every day because somebody couldn't keep the mushroom-dicked porn-star-fiddlin' money-laundering needy old-man-toddler on his leash. We wouldn't have neo-Nazis feeling like they had a buddy in the White House. You think Hillary would have been worse, but when she gets investigated, even by Republicans, they find nothing. When Trump gets investigated, convictions, convictions, convictions.

And if promises really mattered to you... you'd have condemned and railed against obama and hillary.

Just because you've gone all-in buying into the bullshit that FOX and friends tailor-make to keep simpletons like you stupid and complacent so they can use your dumb ass, you think everybody else has to buy it, too. When there's something to actually condemn Obama or Hillary for, we do. But all the shit you beliiiieeeeeeve they did isn't factual. No matter how much it's debunked, you just poke out your dumb lil' drool-shiny lip and cling to it like a blankie. This is what you don't get: you want everyone to hold them accountable for your idiotic fantasies, and other people aren't as stupid as you. You never give Obama, Hillary, or any Dem credit for a lot of good things they do. You think we should hate 'em just because you do, because you've been trained like a dancing spaniel to do it. And who fucking wants to be like you? My god, you're like the last person anybody'd want to be like.

Because, like I said, you don't actually stand for anything. You play this "libertarian" horseshit because you know nobody you'll lay claim to will get to office, so you'll never actually be responsible for anything. You'll always just be able to sit there peeping in that childish, sulled-up, timid halting so-many-elipses-it's-like-you're-flinching labored "prose" of yours.

Actions speak louder than words, and the only actions you take are those of a terminal flake. Your actions show you to defend Trump non-stop, almost by reflex action... which would be fine if you'd admit you love him, but you keep saying you don't. Your actions show you constantly attacking anybody who criticizes him, while if you really didn't like him you'd be agreeing with people here on things instead of playing your "what-about" bullshit and boring the hell out of us. Your actions show you defending Nazis, over and over again, and then pouting if anybody calls you on it.

This is why you're so damn repulsive. I argue on boards a lot, there are plenty of people I like, plenty I don't like, but you're one the few who actually make my skin crawl because you're so fucking whiney. At least the other Trump-defenders around here own up to it. Dumb as they may be, at least they're standing for something. ConservaLady and changes-his-name-every-few-weeks guy are brainwashed to the point of self-parody but at least they're defending something that they actually back. You don't have the integrity or the courage, which is why I have less respect for you than I do them. I don't know why you're even here unless you're just that damn lonesome.

Stop telling us what you think when it's never backed up by what you do. It's ridiculous that adults have to put up with that.

32The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 10:57 am

Deus X

Deus X

Feel better now?

33The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 12:11 pm

zsomething



Deus X wrote:Feel better now?

Sorry, he's just so damn disgusting. Sometimes you see a roach and you just want to stomp it.

34The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 12:14 pm

RealLindaL



PkrBum wrote:As you know... i didn't and wouldn't vote for trump. I don't like the man. That said... he's better than hillary.

And if promises really mattered to you... you'd have condemned and railed against obama and hillary.

We are WAY, WAY past the time (if there ever was one, which there wasn't) when any comparison whatsoever between Trump and Hillary or Obama might have been valid.  THERE IS NO COMPARISON.  Trump stands alone in his utter unsuitability for office and his complete lack of morals, among other fatal defects.

Pkr's mind-numbing "if this, then that" meter needs serious re-calibration, if not complete replacement.

35The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 12:44 pm

PkrBum

PkrBum

RealLindaL wrote:
PkrBum wrote:As you know... i didn't and wouldn't vote for trump. I don't like the man. That said... he's better than hillary.

And if promises really mattered to you... you'd have condemned and railed against obama and hillary.

We are WAY, WAY past the time (if there ever was one, which there wasn't) when any comparison whatsoever between Trump and Hillary or Obama might have been valid.  THERE IS NO COMPARISON.  Trump stands alone in his utter unsuitability for office and his complete lack of morals, among other fatal defects.

Pkr's mind-numbing "if this, then that" meter needs serious re-calibration, if not complete replacement.

You seem to have conveniently forgotten bush2 being blamed for the entirety of Obama's terms.

His ego is still signing edicts however.

City Hall deal for Obama Center in Jackson Park: 99 years for $10

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/city-hall-deal-obama-center-jackson-park-99-years-10/

One of the ordinances includes the agreements between the foundation and the city, which includes the foundation paying the city $10 for the 99-year pact; the other ordinance clears the legal way to plow under Cornell Drive from 59th Street to Hayes Drive to be reconfigured as green space on the Obama campus. The closing of Cornell has been controversial.

Last May and June, the Chicago Plan Commission and City Council approved the zoning and authorized the Obama development under the Lake Michigan and Chicago Lakefront Protection ordinance.

“This is the next step in a process that has been ongoing for years,” Planning and Development Commissioner David Reifman said.

Here are the highlights of what the City Council will be asked to consider:

*Amending a March, 2015 ordinance authorizing the transfer of the Chicago Park District land to the city for the Obama Center.

The boundaries for the complex since 2015 have changed, moving the development further north and east in Jackson Park, sweeping in Cornell Drive. The aim is to close Cornell to create a park connection between the Obama Center and the nearby Museum of Science and Industry

*The foundation will pay the city $10 in return for a 99-year agreement to use 19.3 acres.

Jackson Park Watch co-founder Margaret Schmid said, “The idea of leasing invaluable, irreplaceable public parkland to a private entity for $10 for 99 years is astounding in this era when public lands and natural resources are under attack in so many places.  Besides, Chicago’s finances are extremely precarious.  Yes, this is symbolic, but symbolism is significant.”

The Obama Center will become the 12th museum on park district land, city officials said. The 11 other institutions have their rights in perpetuity. Unlike the other museums, the Obama Center will not receive taxpayer funds to operate.

Reifman said the 99-year pact had to be structured that way to conform with needed companion state legislation.

*Under a “master agreement,” the Obama development will not move forward until federal reviews are complete, estimated at sometime next year.

This comes a bit late in the game –  after the city and Chicago Park District started work last month on building a new athletic field just south of the Obama site – needed because an existing track field is on land needed for the Obama development. The foundation is paying up to $3.5 million for the replacement field.

On Monday – knowing the legislation would be submitted on Thursday, City Hall said construction work would stop until federal reviews are complete. Forty have been cut down.

The Sun-Times revealed in August that trees were being cut down for the new field without final approvals in place.

While the City Council and the Chicago Plan Commission are under the control of Emanuel, the first chief of staff to former President Barack Obama, the National Park Service and the Federal Highway Administration are independent players.

The review was triggered because Jackson Park, designed by famed landscape architects Frederic Law Olmsted and Calvin Vaux, is on the National Register of Historic Places.

*Chicago Department of Transportation Commissioner Rebekah Scheinfeld said Cornell Drive will not be closed until 2020 – when other related roadway improvements – on Stony Island, Lake Shore Drive and Hayes – intended to handle Cornell traffic are scheduled to be completed.

*The Obama Foundation must prove to the city that it has an endowment – either cash or pledges – to cover the construction costs, which Strautmanis estimated at $350 million.

The purpose of the Obama Center complex – to include a museum in a 235-foot tower; a forum and a combination athletic/conference center – has shifted through the years.

The Obama Foundation announced in May, 2017, that Obama’s official presidential library will not be in the Obama Center, meaning the Jackson Park complex will not be part of the National Archives and Records Administration presidential library system.

A permanent location for the Obama Presidential Library has not been announced.

36The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 2:49 pm

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Just look at all the promises he made  ...

Military victories:  We're now fighting in 76 countries and not one war that was going on when Trump was elected by a minority of the voters, has ended.

North Korea:  He loves good ole Kim, who plays him almost as easily as good ole Vladimir.  Russia has introduced new weaponry aimed at our destruction, and Rocket Man is still producing fissionable material.

Trade:  The Donald promised to make our trade with other countries fair to both sides.  We're now in a trade war with several countries, including China and the results will increase middle and poverty-class cost of living expenses.

Tax cuts:  While business for big corporations and small companies is more profitable, cost of living expenses for the rest of us continue to rise and wages have not done the same.

Increasing U.S. influence in the world:  Under Trump's whacko leadership, we've made ourselves untrustworthy to ALL our former allies.  Canada, England, France, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, even Patagonia agree with more than 60% of the American people that Trump is bonkers.

While pretending he's a devout Christian (who doesn't read any book, let alone the Bible), and securing fervent support of Evangelist Leaders, Herr Twitler's list of unfaithful trysts with porn stars, ex-playmates and more than 25 other women on the "I fucked Trump" list continues to grow and fester.
When Stormy Daniels asked him before sex how he felt cheating on Melania and 4-month-old Barron, he told her "It's okay.  We have separate bedrooms."

A journalist outfit who specializes in fact checking claims that Trump's lies since his inauguration now exceed 5,000.

So tell us Pkrbum, please, just what qualities do you admire in your President?


As you know... i didn't and wouldn't vote for trump. I don't like the man. That said... he's better than hillary.

And if promises really mattered to you... you'd have condemned and railed against obama and hillary.

In fact, I disagreed heartily with Obama's half assed healthcare program, and all his foreign war policies. Under his reign, there was no effort to win a foreign war anywhere. That said, I respect the man and his dignity, and appreciate his wonderful public speaking ability. I never liked Hillary and predicted before she or Trump were candidates that they would both win, and all of us would lose, either way it came out. Reality.

37The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 3:46 pm

RealLindaL



PkrBum wrote:You seem to have conveniently forgotten bush2 being blamed for the entirety of Obama's terms.

I haven't forgotten SHIT, you idiot. Neither Obama, nor Hillary, nor Bush, nor ANY OTHER PRESIDENT IN MODERN TIMES is comparable in ANY WAY to the INSANE MORON, the DESPICABLE HUMAN BEING, now occupying the Oval Office. NONE OF THEM.

GET IT????

No, you never will. Zsomething is 100% right about you.

38The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 4:03 pm

Deus X

Deus X

zsomething wrote:
Deus X wrote:Feel better now?

Sorry, he's just so damn disgusting.  Sometimes you see a roach and you just want to stomp it.

Not to worry, I got a nice laugh out of it. Good job!

39The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 5:44 pm

RealLindaL



Deus X wrote:
zsomething wrote:
Deus X wrote:Feel better now?

Sorry, he's just so damn disgusting.  Sometimes you see a roach and you just want to stomp it.

Not to worry, I got a nice laugh out of it. Good job!

Good job is right! Zsomething is a treasure.

40The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 6:01 pm

PkrBum

PkrBum

I went back to see what y'all were celebrating. What a sad case. That anyone thinks that spewing crap like that is entertaining is just stupid. I know y'all are frustrated... but get a grip. Projecting and hurling insults doesn't accomplish anything except to reinforce the fact that it's all you've got. Enjoy... i guess. Rolling Eyes

41The Trump FISA and Text Dump - Page 2 Empty Re: The Trump FISA and Text Dump 9/19/2018, 6:41 pm

Deus X

Deus X

Oh boy!

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