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Who's killed more Americans ... ISIS or Dillon Roof?

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

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Markle; Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists! Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.

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Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

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Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.


That should be an easy enough assertion to prove. How many have "American white Christian racists" killed in the name of their religion during the last 8 years... and how many have Islamic radicals killed in the name of their religion in the last 8 years. Don't chicken out comrade... be honest.

Markle

Markle

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

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   6,901"
Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.


That should be an easy enough assertion to prove. How many have "American white Christian racists" killed in the name of their religion during the last 8 years... and how many have Islamic radicals killed in the name of their religion in the last 8 years. Don't chicken out comrade... be honest.

You simply can't take seriously any statement by Michael Moore. He is a laughing stock.

Telstar

Telstar

Markle wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

   10,591 10,591 Retweets
   6,901"
Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.


That should be an easy enough assertion to prove. How many have "American white Christian racists" killed in the name of their religion during the last 8 years... and how many have Islamic radicals killed in the name of their religion in the last 8 years. Don't chicken out comrade... be honest.

You simply can't take seriously any statement by Michael Moore.  He is a laughing stock.



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Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:

"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

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   6,901"
Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.

Taking Michael Moore seriously says more about you than it does him.

Orlando, Florida (CNN)An American-born man who'd pledged allegiance to ISIS gunned down 49 people early Sunday at a gay nightclub in Orlando, the deadliest mass shooting in the United States and the nation's worst terror attack since 9/11, authorities said.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/

So, what have we learned? It appears that to Wordslinger, the lives of gay people don't count.

NBC News and msnbc.com
updated 11/5/2009 10:48:47 PM ET

An Army psychiatrist who opened fire at Fort Hood, Texas, killing 12 people and wounding 31 others, was shot but captured alive, military officials said late Thursday.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/gunman-kills-wounds-fort-hood/

We have learned too that Wordslinger assigns no value to the lives of our military. Well...okay, we've known that for many years.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

   10,591 10,591 Retweets
   6,901"
Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.


That should be an easy enough assertion to prove. How many have "American white Christian racists" killed in the name of their religion during the last 8 years... and how many have Islamic radicals killed in the name of their religion in the last 8 years. Don't chicken out comrade... be honest.


The statement I made pertained to Americans killed in our country. Also, I don't separate white Christian racists from white racists. For example, Dillon Roof is a white christian and a racist. And I haven't yet heard any stats on Jews, Chinese, Japanese or even Mexicans shooting Americans here because they were black. Have you?

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

   10,591 10,591 Retweets
   6,901"
Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.


That should be an easy enough assertion to prove. How many have "American white Christian racists" killed in the name of their religion during the last 8 years... and how many have Islamic radicals killed in the name of their religion in the last 8 years. Don't chicken out comrade... be honest.


The statement I made pertained to Americans killed in our country.  Also, I don't separate white Christian racists from white racists. For example, Dillon Roof is a white christian and a racist.  And I haven't yet heard any stats on Jews, Chinese, Japanese or even Mexicans shooting Americans here because they were black.  Have you?

Exclude what you want... juggle it all you like. It's still bull shit... just more leftist revision and talkingpoint.

Gobble it up comrade.

2seaoat



The simple truth in the pretend war on terrorism is that since October 2001 more Americans die from bee stings than die from all terrorism against Americans ALL OVER THE WORLD. About 800 Americans have died from terrorists acts all over the world including in America over the last 15 years plus.

We still lose up to 20k folks a year related to DUI's, and have spent over one trillion dollars on our war on drugs, but fail to do simple common sense fixes to the DUI problem, by installing mandatory Breath ignition systems in all new cars and a simple transition in ten years to all vehicles. Since 911 we have spent close to a half trillion dollars fighting silly drug wars and filling our jails with non violent offenders, yet the little over one person a week who dies from a terrorist compares to one hundred fold the carnage from alcohol related deaths.

Big alcohol and big pharm need the drug war to continue to make obscene profits, and the MIC needs a non existent war on terrorism to keep their profits flowing. Who cares what color Dylan was and what terrorism he flaunted, the truth is terrorism is but a small non existent problem in the larger gun violence in America, the futile drug war, and loss of life based on alcohol abuse and DUI. We need some common sense solutions, and not hysterics which play to somebody's profit and bottom line.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:The simple truth in the pretend war on terrorism is that since October 2001 more Americans die from bee stings than die from all terrorism against Americans ALL OVER THE WORLD. About 800 Americans have died from terrorists acts all over the world including in America over the last 15 years plus.

We still lose up to 20k folks a year related to DUI's, and have spent over one trillion dollars on our war on drugs, but fail to do simple common sense fixes to the DUI problem, by installing mandatory Breath ignition systems in all new cars and a simple transition in ten years to all vehicles. Since 911 we have spent close to a half trillion dollars fighting silly drug wars and filling our jails with non violent offenders, yet the little over one person a week who dies from a terrorist compares to one hundred fold the carnage from alcohol related deaths.

Big alcohol and big pharm need the drug war to continue to make obscene profits, and the MIC needs a non existent war on terrorism to keep their profits flowing. Who cares what color Dylan was and what terrorism he flaunted, the truth is terrorism is but a small non existent problem in the larger gun violence in America, the futile drug war, and loss of life based on alcohol abuse and DUI. We need some common sense solutions, and not hysterics which play to somebody's profit and bottom line.

ANOTHER word salad from our mini-rant maker.

You're so far off from the number of deaths, worldwide that it isn't even funny.

EVERY ONE of the deaths caused in Syria specifically, Aleppo, are the responsibility of the Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama who, by his negligent actions gave rise to ISIS. There are tens of thousands of deaths in Syria and MILLIONS of refugees.

As you know, and know well is the FACT that an act of terrorism's goal is not necessarily the number of deaths but rather the disruption of commerce. Something they have done extremely well.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote: [...]

We still lose up to 20k folks a year related to DUI's, [...]

2seaoat why LIE when the truth would serve you better? Oh...right...that's the Progressives way.

How big is the problem?

In 2014, 9,967 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.

Of the 1,070 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2014, 209 (19%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.

Of the 209 child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2014, over half (116) were riding in the vehicle with the alcohol-impaired driver.

In 2014, over 1.1 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics. That's one percent of the 121 million self-reported episodes of alcohol-impaired driving among U.S. adults each year.

Drugs other than alcohol (legal and illegal) are involved in about 16% of motor vehicle crashes.

Marijuana use is increasing and 13% of nighttime, weekend drivers have marijuana in their system.

Marijuana users were about 25% more likely to be involved in a crash than drivers with no evidence of marijuana use, however, other factors – such as age and gender – may account for the increased crash risk among marijuana users.

https://www.cdc.gov/MotorVehicleSafety/Impaired_Driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

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Guest

Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

   10,591 10,591 Retweets
   6,901"
Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.

You can't count old man. Roof (not a Christian either) killed nine. In just the Sanbernadino attack alone, 14 were killed. If we count Orlando at the night club, it triples what Roof did. 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting

2seaoat



my 20k was the old dui stats, and you are correct with your figures which still are one thousand times more than Americans dying from terrorist attacks. It is pure and simple hysteria with the intent to expand our expenditures for MIC. Americans should not count deaths between civil war factions across the world, nor in our arrogance should we intervene in the same. We lost 500K Americans in our civil war, and our founding fathers certainly warned us about a standing army and the danger of the same to a democracy.

The truth is that Mr. Markle pushes coal, oil, war, prohibition, and all other special interest agendas which make the 1% wealthier and the average American poorer. The war on terrorism is a fantasy. It is a false flag of the highest order. Yes, there are dangers from terrorist groups who want to hurt Americans. However, ideas do not necessarily have to be a geographic area, and this idea that a military response in a geographic area can extinguish an idea is simply absurd. We need to stop exporting war. We need to stop burning carbon fuels and find alternatives which can save money and stop pollution. We need to stop the subsidy to the rich and tax the wealthy as we return to progressive tax rates which worked for America. Will we accomplish this with the new President. It is doubtful, but it will only be four years, and maybe when America sees how organized what Mr. Markle is selling, it will once and for all throw out the traitors.

A white terrorist, or a muslim terrorist are the exception and are extremely rare in killing Americans. A DUI killing an American is one hundred fold a problem, yet we spend little resources to protect Americans.

Guest


Guest

There's no reason that the govt can't be run efficiently on about 10% of gdp. There needs to be a balanced budget Amendment. It's your reactionary knee-jerk that excuses the massive deficits and debt.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:my 20k was the old dui stats, and you are correct with your figures which still are one thousand times more than Americans dying from terrorist attacks.   It is pure and simple hysteria with the intent to expand our expenditures for MIC.   Americans should not count deaths between civil war factions across the world, nor in our arrogance should we intervene in the same.   We lost 500K Americans in our civil war, and our founding fathers certainly warned us about a standing army and the danger of the same to a democracy.

The truth is that Mr. Markle pushes coal, oil, war, prohibition, and all other special interest agendas which make the 1% wealthier and the average American poorer.   The war on terrorism is a fantasy.   It is a false flag of the highest order.   Yes, there are dangers from terrorist groups who want to hurt Americans.  However, ideas do not necessarily have to be a geographic area, and this idea that a military response in a geographic area can extinguish an idea is simply absurd.   We need to stop exporting war.   We need to stop burning carbon fuels and find alternatives which can save money and stop pollution.  We need to stop the subsidy to the rich and tax the wealthy as we return to progressive tax rates which worked for America.   Will we accomplish this with the new President.   It is doubtful, but it will only be four years, and maybe when America sees how organized what Mr. Markle is selling, it will once and for all throw out the traitors.

A white terrorist, or a muslim terrorist are the exception and are extremely rare in killing Americans.   A DUI killing an American is one hundred fold a problem, yet we spend little resources to protect Americans.

Your LIES render your entire post unreliable and a lie.

Please show us a reliable source stating that there were 20,000 DUI deaths in a year. If you cannot, admit that you LIED...AGAIN!

As for your LIE about us spending few resources to protect Americans, are you a few fries short of a happy meal?

Telstar

Telstar

Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:my 20k was the old dui stats, and you are correct with your figures which still are one thousand times more than Americans dying from terrorist attacks.   It is pure and simple hysteria with the intent to expand our expenditures for MIC.   Americans should not count deaths between civil war factions across the world, nor in our arrogance should we intervene in the same.   We lost 500K Americans in our civil war, and our founding fathers certainly warned us about a standing army and the danger of the same to a democracy.

The truth is that Mr. Markle pushes coal, oil, war, prohibition, and all other special interest agendas which make the 1% wealthier and the average American poorer.   The war on terrorism is a fantasy.   It is a false flag of the highest order.   Yes, there are dangers from terrorist groups who want to hurt Americans.  However, ideas do not necessarily have to be a geographic area, and this idea that a military response in a geographic area can extinguish an idea is simply absurd.   We need to stop exporting war.   We need to stop burning carbon fuels and find alternatives which can save money and stop pollution.  We need to stop the subsidy to the rich and tax the wealthy as we return to progressive tax rates which worked for America.   Will we accomplish this with the new President.   It is doubtful, but it will only be four years, and maybe when America sees how organized what Mr. Markle is selling, it will once and for all throw out the traitors.

A white terrorist, or a muslim terrorist are the exception and are extremely rare in killing Americans.   A DUI killing an American is one hundred fold a problem, yet we spend little resources to protect Americans.

Your LIES render your entire post unreliable and a lie.

Please show us a reliable source stating that there were 20,000 DUI deaths in a year.  If you cannot, admit that you LIED...AGAIN!

As for your LIE about us spending few resources to protect Americans, are you a few fries short of a happy meal?




Trump and Grimace go together better than burgers and fries.

2seaoat



http://www.madd.org/drunk-driving/about/history.html

No lies just facts. Drunk driving in America still kill 100 fold Americans each year compared to terrorism killing Americans and cost America over a 130 billion.

The war on drugs failed and the war on terrorism is a charade. The war on drunk driving saves American lives.

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Guest

Are you able to focus on a topic when you speak to people in real life?

Guest


Guest

Seaoat's reeling from having to eat crow and tell me I am wrong every election and how Hillary will be Madame President lolololroflmao

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

   10,591 10,591 Retweets
   6,901"
Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.


That should be an easy enough assertion to prove. How many have "American white Christian racists" killed in the name of their religion during the last 8 years... and how many have Islamic radicals killed in the name of their religion in the last 8 years. Don't chicken out comrade... be honest.


The statement I made pertained to Americans killed in our country. Also, I don't separate white Christian racists from white racists. For example, Dillon Roof is a white christian and a racist. And I haven't yet heard any stats on Jews, Chinese, Japanese or even Mexicans shooting Americans here because they were black. Have you?

Where can you prove he was a Christian?

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Guest

Tellthetruth wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:I love this quote from Michael Moore:



"One proud White American, in less than 2 minutes, has killed TWICE as many Americans as ISIS has in 2 years. White Terrorists. #WISIS.
10:46 AM - 19 Jun 2015

   10,591 10,591 Retweets
   6,901"
Markle;  Doesn't that make you proud?
Moore's right, of course.  American white Christian racists are much deadlier in the USA than Islamic Terrorists!  Keep that in mind next time you're at Walmart and a battered pick-up with a big rebel flag is parked out front.


That should be an easy enough assertion to prove. How many have "American white Christian racists" killed in the name of their religion during the last 8 years... and how many have Islamic radicals killed in the name of their religion in the last 8 years. Don't chicken out comrade... be honest.


The statement I made pertained to Americans killed in our country.  Also, I don't separate white Christian racists from white racists. For example, Dillon Roof is a white christian and a racist.  And I haven't yet heard any stats on Jews, Chinese, Japanese or even Mexicans shooting Americans here because they were black.  Have you?

Where can you prove he was a Christian?

The whole thing is a false premise and fake news. Gobble it up comrades.

Guest


Guest

2seaoat wrote:The simple truth in the pretend war on terrorism is that since October 2001 more Americans die from bee stings than die from all terrorism against Americans ALL OVER THE WORLD. About 800 Americans have died from terrorists acts all over the world including in America over the last 15 years plus.

We still lose up to 20k folks a year related to DUI's, and have spent over one trillion dollars on our war on drugs, but fail to do simple common sense fixes to the DUI problem, by installing mandatory Breath ignition systems in all new cars and a simple transition in ten years to all vehicles. Since 911 we have spent close to a half trillion dollars fighting silly drug wars and filling our jails with non violent offenders, yet the little over one person a week who dies from a terrorist compares to one hundred fold the carnage from alcohol related deaths.

Big alcohol and big pharm need the drug war to continue to make obscene profits, and the MIC needs a non existent war on terrorism to keep their profits flowing. Who cares what color Dylan was and what terrorism he flaunted, the truth is terrorism is but a small non existent problem in the larger gun violence in America, the futile drug war, and loss of life based on alcohol abuse and DUI. We need some common sense solutions, and not hysterics which play to somebody's profit and bottom line.

Stay on task and go eat your crow old man, Trump is your POTUS.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:http://www.madd.org/drunk-driving/about/history.html

No lies just facts.   Drunk driving in America still kill 100 fold Americans each year compared to terrorism killing Americans and cost America over a 130 billion.

The war on drugs failed and the war on terrorism is a charade.   The war on drunk driving saves American lives.

Yes, LIES.

You had to go back over THIRTY YEARS to find an ESTIMATED FIGURE. You lied.

Weird, in your opinion, drunk driving is a serious problem...but DRUGGED driving is not.

Saying the war on terrorism is a charade is like saying World War II was a charade.

Pathetic that you want to falsely believe that drunk driving costs more than terrorism in our country. Just shameful.

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