politifacts says that Trump is only truthful 15% of his statements

51% of hillary's statements are truthful.........yet we hear about crooked Hillary.......this is simple. There are real qualitative differences in these candidates and one is sociopath on top of all his other flaws.

One thing Trump didn't lie about. If he shot someone on the street he would still have his supporters.

2seaoat wrote:51% of hillary's statements are truthful.........yet we hear about crooked Hillary.......this is simple.   There are real qualitative differences in these candidates and one is sociopath on top of all his other flaws.

All errors are lies. Understand that PolitiFact and others in the fact checking business call any false statement a lie, whether there was an intent to deceive or not. Thus if you took a school test and scored 80%, then you lied about 20% of the questions. That meaning of lie as any falsehood has made it into the dictionary, so I don't question it here. Just important to understand the hyperbolic prose. there is some tendency to reserve the word lie for what fact checkers think is a major falsehood, but none attempt to prove an intent to deceive.

Politifact has moved sharply left. PolitiFact began as a relatively impartial fact checker. “As a partnership of Congressional Quarterly and the Tampa Bay Times (then the St. Petersburg Times) formed in 2007, the outfit won a Pulitzer Prize for its coverage of the 2008 election. The partnership dissolved shortly after when The Poynter Institute, the parent company of both outfits sold off CQ. ...The Florida journalists carried on alone, and their liberal tendencies became more obvious as the “Pants on Fire” rulings piled up on one side.” [3. http://www.humanevents.com...] Incidentally, Politifact won it's Pulitzer prize the year after the CEO of Times Publishing was appointed to the Pulitzer board. [4. http://www.americanthinker.com...]

Politifact is biased, not crazy. PolitiFact is sometimes correct in their judgements. Nonetheless, they are incapable of being consistently impartial because of their ideological slant. Moreover, to maintain any pretense of impartiality, they have to find some fault with Democrats. No one would believe that there is any large class of politicians that is always truthful. All need to prove is that they are overall biased in favor of Democrats over Republicans.

http://www.debate.org/debates/Politifact-is-biased/1/

I see the umpire is biased, the international jewish conspiracy is undermining Trump, all his accusers are liars, he will not release his tax returns because he is telling the truth that he is being audited without ever producing an IRS letter saying the same, he claimed it was locker room talk and he never sexually assaulted a women, he just told a whopper yesterday that ALL the polls said he won the second debate, He actually talked to people who said they had proof that President Obama was born in Kenya, that he knows more than the generals, that he did not pay the architect or the polish workers who were undocumented because they did bad work, that he never told Howard Trump he was good with the invasion of Iraq, but he did tell sean Hannity that it was a terrible mistake, that he was good with the Libya intervention, but denied he ever said he was good with it, he told us he was a really rich multi billionaire, and in 1995 he made less than 4 million which a rookie NBA player makes just starting the game........yep.....the referee is the problem........at least you are consistent.