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Obama took six hours to respond to Benghazi

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2seaoat



Allen West booted from service for incompetence and cowardice.....yep let us tune in to a looney tune. However, it is good to know that Benghazi is now all President Obama's fault. Too funny.

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2seaoat wrote:Allen West booted from service for incompetence and cowardice.....yep let us tune in to a looney tune.  However, it is good to know that Benghazi is now all President Obama's fault.   Too funny.

He needs to instead focus on his attention on his forthcoming excuses concerning why Hillary Clinton ran away with this Presidential election.

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gatorfan



2seaoat wrote:Allen West booted from service for incompetence and cowardice.....yep let us tune in to a looney tune.  However, it is good to know that Benghazi is now all President Obama's fault.   Too funny.

What's too funny is you're totally wrong. I realize you hate military people but at least get your facts straight. Here, let me try to help:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/12/sprj.nirq.west.ruling/

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Allen West booted from service for incompetence and cowardice.....yep let us tune in to a looney tune.  However, it is good to know that Benghazi is now all President Obama's fault.   Too funny.

What's too funny is you're totally wrong. I realize you hate military people but at least get your facts straight. Here, let me try to help:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/12/sprj.nirq.west.ruling/

We've already discussed Allen West at length. He plead guilty, was fined and forced to retire.


"...West resigned from the military in 2004, following an incident involving his unit’s treatment of an Iraqi man. West himself was charged with two violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, including one against assault, and agreed to retire after an Article 15 hearing in order to avoid a court martial.

According to a 2004 account in The New York Times, West let the soldiers under his command beat the Iraqi man, whom West believed was involved in an attempt on his life. (No evidence was ever found implicating the man). Then, he staged a mock execution:..."

https://www.thenation.com/article/so-allen-west-wants-talk-about-his-military-record/

gatorfan



Floridatexan wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Allen West booted from service for incompetence and cowardice.....yep let us tune in to a looney tune.  However, it is good to know that Benghazi is now all President Obama's fault.   Too funny.

What's too funny is you're totally wrong. I realize you hate military people but at least get your facts straight. Here, let me try to help:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/12/sprj.nirq.west.ruling/

We've already discussed Allen West at length.  He plead guilty, was fined and forced to retire.


"...West resigned from the military in 2004, following an incident involving his unit’s treatment of an Iraqi man. West himself was charged with two violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, including one against assault, and agreed to retire after an Article 15 hearing in order to avoid a court martial.

According to a 2004 account in The New York Times, West let the soldiers under his command beat the Iraqi man, whom West believed was involved in an attempt on his life. (No evidence was ever found implicating the man). Then, he staged a mock execution:..."

https://www.thenation.com/article/so-allen-west-wants-talk-about-his-military-record/

The Nation? Please, why don't you read the article I linked from a legitimate news source? West went to an Article 32 hearing NOT an Article 15, he didn't "plead guilty" since Art. 32's are not criminal trials, they are administrative hearings. Obviously he resigned and should have since what happened was wrong in spite of the fact he was trying to save U.S. lives but it would be nice if people on here would quit trying to distort facts.

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Legitimate news sources don't propagate what she wants to believe. It's that simple.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:Legitimate news sources don't propagate what she wants to believe. It's that simple.

I believe it is you who are "that simple".

2seaoat



fact he was trying to save U.S. lives but it would be nice if people on here would quit trying to distort facts.


My Lai Massacre. On the morning of March 16, 1968, soldiers of Charlie Company, a unit of the Americal Division's 11th Infantry Brigade arrived in the hamlet of My Lai in the northern part of South Vietnam. They were on a “search and destroy” mission to root out 48th Viet Cong Battalion thought to be in the area..........they to were trying to save us lives.......the man the coward was torturing was an Iraqi policeman.....working for the good guys......but do not let the facts stand in your way defending Alan West the ugly American coward.

polecat

polecat

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You know what would settle all this Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi ?
How about 6 or 7 congressional committee hearings ran by a republican bulldog go getter like...?...?...? I got it. Trey Gowdy, yea! He has a real stick up his azz and will get to the bottom of what really happened over there. Lets see, give him about 7 million in tax dollars, none of it trumps, and turn him loose. If you want to believe a 1 term failed congressman who was run out of the army go ahead. What's that you say Trey.



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They collect our information... but we can't have OUR public records or full cooperation under law.

I want a responsive but also transparent and accountable govt.

Radical... I know.

gatorfan



2seaoat wrote:fact he was trying to save U.S. lives but it would be nice if people on here would quit trying to distort facts.


My Lai Massacre. On the morning of March 16, 1968, soldiers of Charlie Company, a unit of the Americal Division's 11th Infantry Brigade arrived in the hamlet of My Lai in the northern part of South Vietnam. They were on a “search and destroy” mission to root out 48th Viet Cong Battalion thought to be in the area..........they to were trying to save us lives.......the man the coward was torturing was an Iraqi policeman.....working for the good guys......but do not let the facts stand in your way defending Alan West the ugly American coward.

Cherry picker. You forgot this little portion of my post trying to once again distort facts: "Obviously he resigned and should have since what happened was wrong"

Miss this little portion of the article or are you once again displaying willful ignorance, the guy may have been a policeman but he had knowledge of an ambush, who do you consider the "good guys" military hater, ISIS????? "Hamoody cracked and gave information about the planned ambush on West's convoy, thwarting the attack."

BTW, WTH does My Lai have to do with this thread other than another of your pitiful attempts to deflect from facts?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:They collect our information... but we can't have OUR public records or full cooperation under law.

I want a responsive but also transparent and accountable govt.

Radical... I know.

http://benghazicommittee.com/benghazi-by-the-numbers/

There's some transparency for ya!

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Allen West booted from service for incompetence and cowardice.....yep let us tune in to a looney tune.  However, it is good to know that Benghazi is now all President Obama's fault.   Too funny.

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Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Allen West booted from service for incompetence and cowardice.....yep let us tune in to a looney tune.  However, it is good to know that Benghazi is now all President Obama's fault.   Too funny.

Did Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama delay making a decision on Benghazi for six hours?

Yes or no?

That would be the time frame when a counter attack/rescue mission was ready and waiting to leave Italy.

Allen West is also the type commander I, and every other vet I know would have walked through Hell and back if he had ordered.

Your statment, as you well know, if a flat out lie.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi ....  Fact:  Whining over how the U.S. government handled this tragedy will not change anyone's mind about who to vote for in the coming presidential election.  By this time in the campaign, Trump's and Hillary's supporters won't be changed by anything.

Fortunately for those who favor a rational president, for every attempt to denigrate Obama and Hillary Clinton over Benghazi, or the emails, Trump issues a dozen sexist tweets or drops another self-destructive bomb at one of his rallies.  

Those voters who as of today haven't yet made up their minds which of these two dreadful candidates they will vote for, are but a tiny fragment of the number of women voters the guy with the dead rat on his head has driven off. And that's a very good thing.

Yessirreesir,  ya can't beat that Trump for hurtin' hisself!   LOL

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Allen West booted from service for incompetence and cowardice.....yep let us tune in to a looney tune.  However, it is good to know that Benghazi is now all President Obama's fault.   Too funny.

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Isn't it interesting, our resident racist-fascist chooses a cartoon of the word "LIAR" which utilizes the image of an African-American face? Get the negative connection? Markle sure as hell did.

While you're scrambling to find an appropriate graphic from your massive hate-file with which to respond, tell us why you find it impossible to admit you were dead wrong claiming no black women have been gunned down by cops.

Down with Amerika, Inc. Corporate control of our government through corrupt campaign financing.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

http://www.snopes.com/white-house-benghazi-response/

Call Me Irresponsible

Claims that top Obama administration officials watched the Benghazi attack unfold in real-time but did nothing to intervene have been proved false.

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ORIGIN:One of the more common fault-finding rumors associated with the 11 September 2012 attack on the American diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, is that Obama administration officials sat around watching the attack unfold in real time (via video) but did nothing to intervene. The earliest expression of this claim we've found comes from a 24 October 2012 opinion piece published by Forbes magazine:

Just one hour after the seven-hour-long terrorist attacks upon the U.S. consulate in Benghazi began, our commander-in-chief, vice president, secretary of defense and their national security team gathered together in the Oval Office listening to phone calls from American defenders desperately under siege and watching real-time video of developments from a drone circling over the site. Yet they sent no military aid that might have intervened in time to save lives.

Even at the time it was written, that claim was highly questionable for presenting a distorted version of what the sources it referenced (CBS News and ABC News) actually reported. A CBS News story published the same day as the Forbes piece stated the following:

CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan reports that the FBI and State Department have reviewed video from security cameras that captured the attack on the consulate.

The audio feed of the attack was being monitored in real time in Washington by diplomatic security official Charlene Lamb. CBS News has learned that video of the assault was recovered 20 days later from the more than 10 security cameras at the compound.

The government security camera footage of the attack was in the possession of local Libyans until the week of Oct. 1. The video will be among the evidence that the State Department's review board will analyze to determine who carried out the assault.

In other words, it was not the case that President Obama, Vice President Biden, Secretary of Defense Panetta, and a national security team were "watching real-time video of developments from a drone circling over the site"; rather, a single diplomatic security official was listening to an audio feed of events in Benghazi. Security cameras in the U.S. consulate compound did record video of the events as they unfolded, and a U.S. surveillance drone camera did capture the last hour of the attack, but neither of those sources was watched real-time by officials in Washington, as the consulate video recordings were not recovered until weeks after the attack:

Video footage from the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, taken the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary attacks, shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who have seen the footage and are involved in the ongoing investigation. The footage, which was recovered from the site [during the first week of October] by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offers some of the most tangible evidence yet that a military-style assault took place, according to these officials.

The Obama administration has been studying the videos, taken from closed-circuit cameras throughout the Benghazi consulate’s four-building compound, for clues about who was responsible for the attack and how it played out. The two officials [said] that analysts are hoping to decipher the faces of the attackers and match them up with known jihadists.

In addition to the footage from the consulate cameras, the U.S. government is also poring over video taken from an overhead U.S. surveillance drone that arrived for the final hour of the night battle at the consulate compound and nearby annex.

Moreover, the majority report issued by the House Select Committee on Benghazi plainly stated that, minutes after learning about the ongoing attack at the U.S. diplomatic compound, President Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta issued "clear orders to deploy military assets":

Just minutes after word of the attack reached the Secretary, he and General Martin E. Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, departed the Pentagon to attend a previously scheduled 5:00 p.m. meeting at the White House with President Obama and National Security Advisor Thomas E. Donilon. The Secretary recalled two details about the attack on the U.S. facility in Benghazi: a building was on fire and Stevens was missing. As the Secretary and Dempsey briefed the President on the evolving situation in Benghazi, Libya, the Secretary recalls the following guidance:

The President made clear that we ought to use all of the resources at our disposal to try to make sure we did everything possible to try to save lives there.

Similarly, the Secretary insists his own intentions and actions that night, in the aftermath of the President’s orders, were also clear: deploy the identified assets immediately. The Secretary said his orders were active tense. “My orders were to deploy those forces, period ... t was very clear: They are to deploy.” He did not order the preparation to deploy or the planning to deploy or the contemplation of deployment. His unequivocal testimony was that he ordered the identified assets to “deploy.”

After the release of the Select Committee's report, Charles Lane caustically observed in a Washington Post opinion piece that:

Within 90 minutes of the Sept. 11, 2012, surprise attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound that killed Ambassador J.  Christopher Stevens and an aide, the report tells us, Obama had told his secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to do everything possible, implicitly including using military force, to protect Americans.

These were “very clear directions,” according to Peter Roskam (R-Ill.), one of Obama’s harshest critics on the panel.

How different from the version of the president’s conduct propounded on right-wing talk radio and TV in the aftermath: that he and his aides coolly watched live video of the mayhem in Benghazi, supplied by drones flying overhead, but declined to order a rescue mission.

Not only does this new Republican report debunk that smear, but it actually shifts blame from Obama to “a rusty bureaucratic process not in keeping with the gravity and urgency of the events happening on the ground.” A second attack, on a separate CIA annex, in which security contractors Tyrone S. Woods and Glen Doherty died, was already over by the time U.S. military assets started moving toward Libya. And even then, the forces headed to the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, not Benghazi.

To be sure, the report strains to put the most negative construction on these previously reported delays, insinuating but not asserting that Woods and Doherty might have been saved but for the low alert status of U.S. forces overseas or the dithering of officials in Washington. And it’s true: Special units in Europe did not meet their own standards for rapid deployment to Tripoli.

After two years of investigation, however, such tendentious implications are all that remain of the conspiracy theory that the Obama administration told rescuers to “stand down” or otherwise deliberately abandoned Americans on the ground.

polecat

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polecat wrote:Obama took six hours to respond to Benghazi 13139310

No, the Republicans blame 9/11 on Bill Clinton.

Perhaps Lame Dork poster Markle will once again regurgitate his sophomoric propaganda piece on the subject for our entertainment..... We've seen it a thousand times already, and debunked it thoroughly, but that does not stop the Lame Dork, LOL!

You'll never see Markle or PeeDog allow any blame for 9/11 to fall on George W. Bush and his fellow Neocons.......

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Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:fact he was trying to save U.S. lives but it would be nice if people on here would quit trying to distort facts.


My Lai Massacre. On the morning of March 16, 1968, soldiers of Charlie Company, a unit of the Americal Division's 11th Infantry Brigade arrived in the hamlet of My Lai in the northern part of South Vietnam. They were on a “search and destroy” mission to root out 48th Viet Cong Battalion thought to be in the area..........they to were trying to save us lives.......the man the coward was torturing was an Iraqi policeman.....working for the good guys......but do not let the facts stand in your way defending Alan West the ugly American coward.

Your desperation is duly noted as well as your despicable references to an American hero.

Floridatexan

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