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1Liar Trump lies again Empty Liar Trump lies again 9/25/2016, 9:41 am

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

First he told us he was going to put jennifer flowers in the debate audience. And now he says not.
What a liar. I was really looking forward to seeing her in the audience. Trump is a worthless piece of shit.

2Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/25/2016, 10:40 am

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

This I can tell you (as Donald Dump would say), when Dump's mentor Vince McMahon says he'll have Jennifer flowers in his audience, you can rest assured he'll have her there. Unlike Dump who's just running his mouth.

3Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/25/2016, 11:22 am

dumpcare



This is what's going to happen to Donny whether he wins or looses, he will find a way to funnel any campaign money he has left into his organization which he has anyway and when years have gone by with lawsuits will make a deal for pennies on the dollar and they will settle. The joke will be on the american public.

4Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/25/2016, 11:49 am

dumpcare



Here's just one example:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-luxury-jet_us_57e6bc0ee4b08d73b8319f15?section=&

WASHINGTON – Taxpayers are now picking up most of Donald Trump’s air travel costs, unnecessarily spending millions of dollars because he insists on flying aboard his luxury 757 instead of a practical plane.

And because the GOP presidential nominee owns both the company that owns the jetliner and the one that operates it, some percentage of that taxpayer money is likely winding up as profit in Trump’s personal bank account.

The bombastic businessman has often bragged about the comforts of his ride, with its full bedroom, shower and 24-karat gold-plated bathroom fixtures. But because it seats so few passengers, Trump’s Secret Service agents appear to make up more than half of the plane’s flight manifests. And that means taxpayers are now legally required to pick up the majority of its staggering running costs.

Over the first three months of this year, after Trump asked for and received Secret Service protection, the agency’s payments to his campaign accounted for 48 percent of the $1.7 million that it paid Tag Air Inc., the candidate’s company that operates the aging jet.

Over June, July and August, as Trump became the GOP nominee and his security detail grew, the agency’s payments to the campaign made up 78 percent of the $1.3 million that it paid to Tag Air, according to The Huffington Post’s review of Federal Election Commission filings.

That figure is on pace to top $3 million by Election Day on Nov. 8 – a total that would be nearly double what taxpayers spent to fly Secret Service agents around with 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney.

The difference: Romney did what every other non-incumbent presidential candidate has done in recent history and chartered an airliner on which staff, Secret Service and the traveling press corps all flew together, thereby driving down the cost for everyone.

“It’s eye-opening, I guess,” said Bob Biersack, who spent three decades at the FEC before joining the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. “Part of the Trump phenomenon.”

Biersack said the payments do not appear to be illegal and that the former reality TV show host was not likely to care about appearances. He pointed to the many tax breaks Trump’s businesses have aggressively sought over the years. “This is not the first time he’s used government assets to his own advantage, right?” he added.

Both the Secret Service and the FEC said election regulations do not allow any leeway for how the agency is to reimburse campaigns for travel. Trump’s campaign did not respond to queries from HuffPost about the matter.

The $2.3 million the Secret Service spent to fly with Trump is only slightly less than the $2.6 million the agency has paid to the campaign of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton ― even though she has had the agency’s protection for twice as long as her Republican opponent.

Clinton, as the spouse of a former president, has had Secret Service protection since the start of her campaign in April 2015, whereas Trump asked for and received protection late last year. What’s more, some of the agency’s payments to the former secretary of state’s campaign cover travel with former President Bill Clinton when he has been on the campaign trail.

The Democratic candidate chartered a 737 that carries Clinton, her traveling staff, Secret Service detail and the traveling press corps in the past month, which should hold down the agency’s travel costs with her for the final two months of the campaign.

The last Republican candidate did the same thing in the final months of 2012. Romney’s chartered McDonnell-Douglas MD-83 was only seven feet shorter than Trump’s Boeing 757, but was configured essentially like a standard airliner and could carry some 150 passengers, even with a more spacious first-class section for Romney and his top staff.

In contrast, Trump’s 757, which he purchased from Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen in 2011, boasts a lounge with a 57-inch television and home theater sound, a master bedroom appointed with silk wall coverings and a guest room with a mohair couch that converts to a bed. It can, however, only seat 43 people and it appears not to carry even that many on the campaign trail, based on the number aboard recent flights.

wn by the Trump campaign, but cannot be determined through the few public documents on file that describe Tag Air.

However, a 757-200 similar to Trump’s can be chartered for about $13,000 per hour. Based on fuel consumption rates for that plane, as much as $8,000 of that is burned each hour in the air, more if the trip is a series of short hops. Maintenance, food, landing fees and crew salaries add many hundreds of dollars more per hour.

How much the plane generates in profit for Trump after subtracting these costs might be deduced from his tax returns, but he has refused to release those. Trump said he is under IRS audit and that his lawyers have told him it would be unwise to release the returns until this is finished.

And as pricey as his plane is to fly, he makes his travel even more expensive by insisting on returning to New York City at the end of each day so he can sleep in his own bed in Trump Tower’s penthouse. Flying home, rather than overnighting in the next city on the campaign schedule, typically adds three to four hours of flying time per day, translating to $27,000 to $36,000 per day in higher flight costs.

Those higher costs, though, are being borne in large measure by taxpayers, particularly since the expansion of Trump’s Secret Service detail upon his officially winning the nomination.

How much the plane generates in profit for Trump after subtracting these costs might be deduced from his tax returns, but Trump has refused to release those.
Trump paid Tag Air $2.1 million to fly his plane around to campaign events in 2015. The money came from the checks he was writing to fund his campaign, as well as from the sale of “Make America Great Again” hats and other campaign souvenirs. Not a dime came from taxpayers.

This year has been a completely different story, first with the availability of Secret Service payments to defray his travel costs, and then with a flood of donor money following his signing of a joint fundraising deal with the Republican National Committee in May.

Trump’s use of Republican donors’ money at his own businesses since he signed that deal has been previously documented by news outlets including HuffPost. He sent his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach a check for $423,000 the very day the fundraising agreement was signed. In all, some $600,000 flowed from the Trump campaign to Trump properties that day.

He also increased the rent that his campaign pays at Trump Tower by a factor of five after signing the RNC deal, from $35,458 in April to $169,758 by July. That higher rent translates to a per-square-foot cost several times higher than what the Clinton campaign pays for its headquarters in Brooklyn.

This lavish spending, though, came at the expense of donors who willingly gave money to Trump. The Secret Service payments to fly on Trump’s glitzy but inefficient plane hit taxpayers, potentially creating problems for him if public anger translates into a drop in support, the Center for Responsive Politics’ Biersack said

“The issue is that he’s chosen that particular plane,” Biersack said, adding that FEC commissioners likely never contemplated that a candidate would choose such an extravagant mode of transportation. Nor did anyone guess that taxpayers could wind up on the hook if it did happen, Biersack added. “It was never anticipated that the proportion of campaign travelers would be so heavily tilted toward federal officials.”

“This is a public perception thing,” he continued. “At some point, people will begin to say, ‘Wait a minute: this is ridiculous.’”

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims ― 1.6 billion members of an entire religion ― from entering the U.S.

5Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 1:19 am

Telstar

Telstar

Hospital Bob wrote:This I can tell you (as Donald Dump would say),  when Dump's mentor Vince McMahon says he'll have Jennifer flowers in his audience,  you can rest assured he'll have her there.  Unlike Dump who's just running his mouth.


Right Bob and you can bet somebody would get their head shaved too.

6Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 9:34 am

polecat

polecat

Trump Warns That Clinton Will Rig Debate by Using Facts - Andy Borowitz

7Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 10:18 am

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

ppaca wrote:Here's just one example:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-luxury-jet_us_57e6bc0ee4b08d73b8319f15?section=&

WASHINGTON – Taxpayers are now picking up most of Donald Trump’s air travel costs, unnecessarily spending millions of dollars because he insists on flying aboard his luxury 757 instead of a practical plane.

And because the GOP presidential nominee owns both the company that owns the jetliner and the one that operates it, some percentage of that taxpayer money is likely winding up as profit in Trump’s personal bank account.

The bombastic businessman has often bragged about the comforts of his ride, with its full bedroom, shower and 24-karat gold-plated bathroom fixtures. But because it seats so few passengers, Trump’s Secret Service agents appear to make up more than half of the plane’s flight manifests. And that means taxpayers are now legally required to pick up the majority of its staggering running costs.

Over the first three months of this year, after Trump asked for and received Secret Service protection, the agency’s payments to his campaign accounted for 48 percent of the $1.7 million that it paid Tag Air Inc., the candidate’s company that operates the aging jet.

Over June, July and August, as Trump became the GOP nominee and his security detail grew, the agency’s payments to the campaign made up 78 percent of the $1.3 million that it paid to Tag Air, according to The Huffington Post’s review of Federal Election Commission filings.

That figure is on pace to top $3 million by Election Day on Nov. 8 – a total that would be nearly double what taxpayers spent to fly Secret Service agents around with 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney.

The difference: Romney did what every other non-incumbent presidential candidate has done in recent history and chartered an airliner on which staff, Secret Service and the traveling press corps all flew together, thereby driving down the cost for everyone.

“It’s eye-opening, I guess,” said Bob Biersack, who spent three decades at the FEC before joining the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. “Part of the Trump phenomenon.”

Biersack said the payments do not appear to be illegal and that the former reality TV show host was not likely to care about appearances. He pointed to the many tax breaks Trump’s businesses have aggressively sought over the years. “This is not the first time he’s used government assets to his own advantage, right?” he added.

Both the Secret Service and the FEC said election regulations do not allow any leeway for how the agency is to reimburse campaigns for travel. Trump’s campaign did not respond to queries from HuffPost about the matter.

The $2.3 million the Secret Service spent to fly with Trump is only slightly less than the $2.6 million the agency has paid to the campaign of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton ― even though she has had the agency’s protection for twice as long as her Republican opponent.

Clinton, as the spouse of a former president, has had Secret Service protection since the start of her campaign in April 2015, whereas Trump asked for and received protection late last year. What’s more, some of the agency’s payments to the former secretary of state’s campaign cover travel with former President Bill Clinton when he has been on the campaign trail.

The Democratic candidate chartered a 737 that carries Clinton, her traveling staff, Secret Service detail and the traveling press corps in the past month, which should hold down the agency’s travel costs with her for the final two months of the campaign.

The last Republican candidate did the same thing in the final months of 2012. Romney’s chartered McDonnell-Douglas MD-83 was only seven feet shorter than Trump’s Boeing 757, but was configured essentially like a standard airliner and could carry some 150 passengers, even with a more spacious first-class section for Romney and his top staff.

In contrast, Trump’s 757, which he purchased from Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen in 2011, boasts a lounge with a 57-inch television and home theater sound, a master bedroom appointed with silk wall coverings and a guest room with a mohair couch that converts to a bed. It can, however, only seat 43 people and it appears not to carry even that many on the campaign trail, based on the number aboard recent flights.

wn by the Trump campaign, but cannot be determined through the few public documents on file that describe Tag Air.

However, a 757-200 similar to Trump’s can be chartered for about $13,000 per hour. Based on fuel consumption rates for that plane, as much as $8,000 of that is burned each hour in the air, more if the trip is a series of short hops. Maintenance, food, landing fees and crew salaries add many hundreds of dollars more per hour.

How much the plane generates in profit for Trump after subtracting these costs might be deduced from his tax returns, but he has refused to release those. Trump said he is under IRS audit and that his lawyers have told him it would be unwise to release the returns until this is finished.

And as pricey as his plane is to fly, he makes his travel even more expensive by insisting on returning to New York City at the end of each day so he can sleep in his own bed in Trump Tower’s penthouse. Flying home, rather than overnighting in the next city on the campaign schedule, typically adds three to four hours of flying time per day, translating to $27,000 to $36,000 per day in higher flight costs.

Those higher costs, though, are being borne in large measure by taxpayers, particularly since the expansion of Trump’s Secret Service detail upon his officially winning the nomination.

How much the plane generates in profit for Trump after subtracting these costs might be deduced from his tax returns, but Trump has refused to release those.
Trump paid Tag Air $2.1 million to fly his plane around to campaign events in 2015. The money came from the checks he was writing to fund his campaign, as well as from the sale of “Make America Great Again” hats and other campaign souvenirs. Not a dime came from taxpayers.

This year has been a completely different story, first with the availability of Secret Service payments to defray his travel costs, and then with a flood of donor money following his signing of a joint fundraising deal with the Republican National Committee in May.

Trump’s use of Republican donors’ money at his own businesses since he signed that deal has been previously documented by news outlets including HuffPost. He sent his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach a check for $423,000 the very day the fundraising agreement was signed. In all, some $600,000 flowed from the Trump campaign to Trump properties that day.

He also increased the rent that his campaign pays at Trump Tower by a factor of five after signing the RNC deal, from $35,458 in April to $169,758 by July. That higher rent translates to a per-square-foot cost several times higher than what the Clinton campaign pays for its headquarters in Brooklyn.

This lavish spending, though, came at the expense of donors who willingly gave money to Trump. The Secret Service payments to fly on Trump’s glitzy but inefficient plane hit taxpayers, potentially creating problems for him if public anger translates into a drop in support, the Center for Responsive Politics’ Biersack said

“The issue is that he’s chosen that particular plane,” Biersack said, adding that FEC commissioners likely never contemplated that a candidate would choose such an extravagant mode of transportation. Nor did anyone guess that taxpayers could wind up on the hook if it did happen, Biersack added. “It was never anticipated that the proportion of campaign travelers would be so heavily tilted toward federal officials.”

“This is a public perception thing,” he continued. “At some point, people will begin to say, ‘Wait a minute: this is ridiculous.’”

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims ― 1.6 billion members of an entire religion ― from entering the U.S.

Perhaps I missed it but I wish the news networks would cover items like this instead of playing "gotcha" moments from debates of the past, which I have seen over and over again in the build-up to tonight's debate.

8Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 11:43 am

Vikingwoman



http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html

9Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 12:05 pm

Sal

Sal

Vikingwoman wrote:http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html

The sad part is that it really doesn't matter.

There was a time in this country, when there were trusted institutions to which people could turn for the truth.

The Republican party has been steadily eroding that trust for over thirty years.

And, it has worked.

Close to half of this country distrusts journalism, distrusts government, distrusts science, and distrusts higher education and the educated.

I see it on FB everyday.

People posting bullshit that is so transparently and demonstrably false that it boggles the mind.

And, so we have the rise of Donald J. Trump.

Our democracy is on increasingly unstable ground.

10Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 12:21 pm

RealLindaL



Sal wrote:
Vikingwoman wrote:http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html

The sad part is that it really doesn't matter.

There was a time in this country, when there were trusted institutions to which people could turn for the truth.

The Republican party has been steadily eroding that trust for over thirty years.

And, it has worked.

Close to half of this country distrusts journalism, distrusts government, distrusts science, and distrusts higher education and the educated.

I see it on FB everyday.

People posting bullshit that is so transparently and demonstrably false that it boggles the mind.

And, so we have the rise of Donald J. Trump.

Our democracy is on increasingly unstable ground.


I fear you are only too, too right, Sal. It's deeply disturbing. I'm a person to whom honesty and integrity are central and have even said goodbye to a "friend" or two who continued to lie to me over things big and small. It's a sickness, and our society is becoming infected.

11Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 1:00 pm

Guest


Guest

When you stack him up against a legendary liar like hillary... it's kinda silly to use his lies as a talkingpoint.

Just sayin.

12Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 1:33 pm

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

It is beyond ironic or just plain insane that the people who point fingers at Hillary for "lies" she's said have no trouble at all totally ignoring the lies put out on an hourly basis by the person they are supporting for president. Her lies matter but his don't? How does that work? Major newspapers come out denouncing his casual relationship to the truth to say nothing of his lack of background in foreign and domestic affairs and that too is ignored.

Let's vote for the guy who founded a fake university and bilked people out of their savings? Now there's a truth teller for you.

What is the mental process going on here? Or is that giving his died in the wool supporters too much credit?

See this explained by Jon Oliver.



http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/09/26/john_oliver_uses_raisins_to_explain_clinton_and_trump_s_scandals_video.html

13Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 2:14 pm

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:When you stack him up against a legendary liar like hillary... it's kinda silly to use his lies as a talkingpoint.

Just sayin.

Again?? ....

.... alright. [sigh]


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Liar Trump lies again Captur16

14Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 3:43 pm

Vikingwoman



othershoe1030 wrote:It is beyond ironic or just plain insane that the people who point fingers at Hillary for "lies" she's said have no trouble at all totally ignoring the lies put out on an hourly basis by the person they are supporting for president. Her lies matter but his don't? How does that work? Major newspapers come out denouncing his casual relationship to the truth to say nothing of his lack of background in foreign and domestic affairs and that too is ignored.

Let's vote for the guy who founded a fake university and bilked people out of their savings? Now there's a truth teller for you.

What is the mental process going on here? Or is that giving his died in the wool supporters too much credit?

See this explained by Jon Oliver.



http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/09/26/john_oliver_uses_raisins_to_explain_clinton_and_trump_s_scandals_video.html

Amazing isn't it? Too many people like Pkr and Markle who are so fixated by the ideology they're minds will not allow them to see anything else. They could probably be led to a mass suicide if it was called for.

15Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 5:06 pm

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:When you stack him up against a legendary liar like hillary... it's kinda silly to use his lies as a talkingpoint.

Just sayin.

Again?? ....

.... alright.  [sigh]

Liar Trump lies again Captur15

Liar Trump lies again Captur16

Well known FACT is that Politifact is totally biased and therefore, unreliable.

Not surprising, they are owned by the far left liberal Tampa Bay Times with all the same liberal personnel. The same person is the editor for both publications as are all the writers.

16Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 6:26 pm

Telstar

Telstar

Sal wrote:
Vikingwoman wrote:http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html

The sad part is that it really doesn't matter.

There was a time in this country, when there were trusted institutions to which people could turn for the truth.

The Republican party has been steadily eroding that trust for over thirty years.

And, it has worked.

Close to half of this country distrusts journalism, distrusts government, distrusts science, and distrusts higher education and the educated.

I see it on FB everyday.

People posting bullshit that is so transparently and demonstrably false that it boggles the mind.

And, so we have the rise of Donald J. Trump.

Our democracy is on increasingly unstable ground.


Surgeon General warns: Drinking every time Trump lies during debate could result in acute alcohol poisoning

Medical professionals found themselves in a similar situation last year, before the GOP primary debates. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said “We are anticipating record levels of alcohol poisoning… all across the country, as Americans engage in drinking games while they watch the debate. We can’t impress enough on people about the danger of mixing alcohol and watching the GOP debates, especially with the field the Republicans are giving us this year.”

Given the candidate they ultimately chose, the potential for fabrications tonight are higher than ever.

http://usuncut.com/news/surgeon-general-warns-drinking-every-time-trump-lies-debate-result-acute-alcohol-poisoning/

Markle

Markle

Looks like it was the CLINTON CABAL who lied. I am shocked...SHOCKED I SAY!


Mark Cuban Admits He Lied – Never Had a Front Row Seat at Debate


Jim Hoft Sep 26th, 2016 7:02 pm

On Friday media outlets reported the Clinton Campaign was giving Mark Cuban a front row seat to troll Donald Trump during the presidential debate.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/mark-cuban-admits-lied-never-front-row-seat-debate/

Mark Cuban tweeted about it on Friday.

Follow
Mark Cuban ✔ @mcuban
Just got a front row seat to watch @HillaryClinton overwhelm @realDonaldTrump at the "Humbling at Hofstra" on Monday. It Is On !
9:07 PM - 22 Sep 2016
4,866 4,866 Retweets 13,904 13,904 likes

18Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 8:28 pm

dumpcare



Markle wrote:Looks like it was the CLINTON CABAL who lied.  I am shocked...SHOCKED I SAY!


Mark Cuban Admits He Lied – Never Had a Front Row Seat at Debate


Jim Hoft Sep 26th, 2016 7:02 pm

On Friday media outlets reported the Clinton Campaign was giving Mark Cuban a front row seat to troll Donald Trump during the presidential debate.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/mark-cuban-admits-lied-never-front-row-seat-debate/



Mark Cuban tweeted about it on Friday.

Follow
Mark Cuban ✔ @mcuban
Just got a front row seat to watch @HillaryClinton overwhelm @realDonaldTrump at the "Humbling at Hofstra" on Monday. It Is On !
9:07 PM - 22 Sep 2016
 4,866 4,866 Retweets   13,904 13,904 likes

I guess you must think Cuban is running for President and going to carry the nuclear codes?

19Liar Trump lies again Empty Re: Liar Trump lies again 9/26/2016, 8:42 pm

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Markle wrote:Looks like it was the CLINTON CABAL who lied.  I am shocked...SHOCKED I SAY!


Mark Cuban Admits He Lied – Never Had a Front Row Seat at Debate


Jim Hoft Sep 26th, 2016 7:02 pm

On Friday media outlets reported the Clinton Campaign was giving Mark Cuban a front row seat to troll Donald Trump during the presidential debate.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/mark-cuban-admits-lied-never-front-row-seat-debate/

Mark Cuban tweeted about it on Friday.

Follow
Mark Cuban ✔ @mcuban
Just got a front row seat to watch @HillaryClinton overwhelm @realDonaldTrump at the "Humbling at Hofstra" on Monday. It Is On !
9:07 PM - 22 Sep 2016
 4,866 4,866 Retweets   13,904 13,904 likes

Thanks for keeping us up to date on the very important soap opera aspects of this event.

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