Trump Lies About Birtherism and Then Lies Some More

Incredible.

These are bald-faced, demonstrable lies.

If we still have any vestiges of credible journalistic integrity in what was once the Fourth Estate, they should destroy him with this.

Wouldn't it be something if birtherism was the thing that finally torpedoed his campaign?

Trump just said that he "finished" the birther controversy by forcing President Obama to release his birth certificate in 2011. But for literally years after the release of the long form birth certificate Trump continued to claim it was either a forgery or that it didn't establish that President Obama was born in the United States

Courtesy of The Daily Beast Gideon Resnick here's a sampling of Trump tweets - post-birth certificate release - claiming it was a forgery.

Of course, there's more than Twitter. Here's MediaMatters file on all the times he claimed President Obama wasn't an American citizen after the birth certificate release.

Hillary Clinton didn't start birtherism. That's a flat out lie. Trump didn't "finish" it, even in the preposterous sense in which he's claiming that he did the country a "great service" by forcing the release of the birth certificate and settling the matter. Because he continued to claim it was a forgery for years.

As I said earlier, birtherism is not about a factual error. It's conscious and deliberate racist agitation. Indeed, it was birtherism which built Trump's political profile and his base among white supremacists which enabled him to mount his successful primary campaign. His political career was built on birtherism and racism. He's never apologized. Indeed, he's said he deserves praise for it. So he's doubled down on more lies, apologized for nothing, and says he deserves credit for what he did. Think about that.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/stone-cold-liar

Here is all the praise that lyin' Donnyboy deserves.

This is the empereor's new clothes, but when will the child say.......but you are naked Mr. Trump. The American people are hypnotized in a trance with the whole reality tv paradigm that this man has money and he must be smart and a leader. It is insane, where is the child....?

Markle is also a pathological liar ....

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/

And, after his performance, the stage literally collapsed from the sheer weight of the bullshit it had been forced to endure.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/the-stage-is-falling-apart-nbcs-katy-tur-narrates-as-trump-events-stage-collapses-on-live-tv/

It ASTOUNDS me every day when people say they won't vote for Hillary because she's a liar, but then will turn around and say they're going to vote for Trump. AS IF!!! Are you KIDDING me?????? TRUMP is the paradigm of truthfulness??? He would lie about whether or not the sun rises in the east if it benefited him. He's made himself a CAREER out of deception. OMG people, WAKE THE HECK UP!!!

Sal wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:It ASTOUNDS me every day when people say they won't vote for Hillary because she's a liar, but then will turn around and say they're going to vote for Trump.  AS IF!!!    Are you KIDDING me??????    TRUMP is the paradigm of truthfulness???  He would lie about whether or not the sun rises in the east if it benefited him.  He's made himself a CAREER out of deception.  OMG people, WAKE THE HECK UP!!!

I really think that he may have stepped over the line here, at least with the media.

He billed this as a major announcement, then gave a twenty-five minute infomercial about his hotel, surrounded himself with veterans as props, and then gave a three sentence statement regarding what was supposed to be the subject of his speech - two sentences of which were bald-faced lies.

I think the press may turn on him at this point and cover him as the ridiculous little man running a ridiculous little campaign on nothing but bluster and bullshit, as they should've been doing from the get go.

Will it matter at this juncture?

Stay tuned.

Sal, I'd love to see it happen (the press portraying him for what his is), but I'm afraid that may be wishful thinking.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/9/17/1571335/-Trump-s-miscalculation-will-hurt-him-Badly?detail=email&link_id=1&can_id=1b54be4c01232388704f6dbb31c47a1c&source=email-trumps-miscalculation-will-hurt-him-badly&email_referrer=trumps-miscalculation-will-hurt-him-badly&email_subject=trumps-miscalculation-will-hurt-him-badly

Trump's miscalculation will hurt him. Badly.

I’ll be honest, as an ex hockey player, there’s nothing I like more than a lively scrum in the corner or along the boards. And what we have brewing right now is a bench clearing brawl, but there’s just one problem. One team is sending their whole squad out there to mash the captain, and everybody on the other team but the captain is heading for the locker room, pronto.

Of course I’m speaking of The Orange Julius vs the entire media. Frankly, I don’t understand the motive here. Trump has stonewalled on releasing his taxes this entire cycle, and he’ll continue to do so. Why not do the same thing with the birtherism issue? Trump had a legitimate stalling tactic. He responded to every question on the subject by saying he ‘doesn’t talk about it anymore”, that it was a distraction. His surrogates were on the same page. Then, for some unknown reason it started unraveling. Trump surrogates began saying on air that Trump believed Obama was a U.S. citizen.

Why the hell do this? True, the media was asking, but when stonewalled by the “I/He doesn’t talk about that anymore, it’s a distraction”, the press backed off in pursuit of other topics. Their clumsy change of direction only ignited the whole issue again, and nothing short of an admission from The Tiny Fisted Emperor would do. Trump’s :07 admission that Obama was born here, followed by him leaving the stage of his “press conference” without taking one question sparked pure media outrage.

The media is now righteously pissed. Like Bernie Maddof investors, they bought into the scam over and over again, and ended up looking like rubes when the scam was exposed. The media could no longer deny that they had been played for suckers, and that stung. For the first time I can remember, the media used the dread word “lie” to describe Trumpensteins words. And they are going to get their pound of flesh back, this isn’t going to disappear anytime soon.

The funny thing is that the Clinton campaign doesn’t even have to push this. The media is fueling and pushing this all on their own, in an attempt to restore their tattered dignity and integrity. CNN is on a full fledged temper tantrum. John Berman, Jake Tapper and John King excoriated Trump repeatedly, not only for his flimsy admission, but also for his flat out lie that the Clinton camp started the birtherism issue. One CNN panelist even admitted “We got played”.

Hell hath no fury like a reporter conned. The New York Times used the word “lie” repeatedly to describe both Trumps birtherism and his accusation on the Clinton campaign. CNN was a bit more tactful, calling the statements “factually false”, or “untruthful”. CNN’s nose is out of joint because they finally realize they got jobbed, cutting away from their regular programming for a thirty minute infomercial and self promotion tour of his new hotel, leading up to his :07 statement. NBC was the pool member that was allowed to send a camera crew on his grand tour of the hotel. They erased the tape in protest, refusing to use any of the footage on air, and nobody else did either. They instead spent all of their spare time excoriating Trump for his refusal after almost six years of smearing the President to either explain his conversion or apologize.

The worst part for Trump is that the media is now bringing back up both his tantrum against Judge Curiel and his hateful rhetoric aimed at the Khan family. Both of these events had a lasting negative impact on the Trump campaign, they don’t need it brought up and rehashed all over again. The true test of the medias ire will be how much they now go back and start picking over previous obnoxious statements from Trump, and how they deal with them in retrospect. Also important will be how the media now responds to the continuing controversies concerning the Trump Foundation, and the Pam Bondi “pay for play” kerfuffle.

It is estimated that Mein Furor has received just over $2B in “earned air time” in this cycle, it allowed him to blot out 16 other contenders. Those days are over. And what media time he does get will be much more critical of him. No matter what you think of Trump, you have to admit one thing. When it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, Trumpelthinskin is the Grand Wizard!

Thanks as always for reading!

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This appeared on the front page of the NYTimes yesterday ...

It was not true in 2011, when Donald J. Trump mischievously began to question President Obama’s birthplace aloud in television interviews. “I’m starting to think that he was not born here,” he said at the time.

It was not true in 2012, when he took to Twitter to declare that “an ‘extremely credible source’” had called his office to inform him that Mr. Obama’s birth certificate was “a fraud.”

It was not true in 2014, when Mr. Trump invited hackers to “please hack Obama’s college records (destroyed?) and check ‘place of birth.’”

It was never true, any of it. Mr. Obama’s citizenship was never in question. No credible evidence ever suggested otherwise.

Yet it took Mr. Trump five years of dodging, winking and joking to surrender to reality, finally, on Friday, after a remarkable campaign of relentless deception that tried to undermine the legitimacy of the nation’s first black president.

In fact, it took Mr. Trump much longer than that: Mr. Obama released his short-form birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health in 2008. Most of the world moved on.

But not Mr. Trump.

He nurtured the conspiracy like a poisonous flower, watering and feeding it with an ardor that still baffles and embarrasses many around him.

The essential question — Why promote a lie?

It might not matter. He kept doing it, even as his most senior aides assured the public that he had long since abandoned the fallacy.

He had not. He was disingenuous until the very end, telling a Washington Post reporter just 72 hours before that he was unready to concede the president’s place of birth. But he treated the weighty topic, as he does so much else, like a television cliffhanger, promising a major declaration on Friday.

And then, around 11 a.m. Friday in Washington, he gave up the lie. But he conjured up a bizarre new deception, congratulating himself for putting to rest the doubts about Mr. Obama that he had fanned since 2011. “I finished it,’’ he declared, unapologetically. “President Obama was born in the United States — period.’’

Surrounded by, and in many ways shielded by, decorated veterans in his new Washington hotel, he could not resist indulging in another falsehood — that his opponent, Hillary Clinton, had started the so-called birther movement. She did not.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther.html

Trump is a sociopath. Anybody attacking Hillary is promoting a sociopath to the Presidency of the United States. Our Moral fiber is being tested as a Nation in this election, and the false equivalency is the biggest lie.....there is no equivalency with this sociopath.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/

I just read the Penn letter......Nothing which suggested that the Clinton campaign was going to say President Obama was not born in America. absurd.

more lies and innuendo........gave up on the gross negligence

You have tried by smoke and mirrors to make Hillary dishonest after 20 years of attacks, and you turn a blind eye to Trump, who you say you will not vote......I call obvious BS.

Told you so! You guys are so easy!

MSNBC, Politico, Bloomberg, CNN, McClatchy and More Confirm: Hillary Clinton’s 2008 Campaign Spread ‘Birtherism’ About Barack Obama

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/16/msnbc-politico-bloomberg-cnn-mcclatchy-confirm-hillary-clintons-2008-campaign-spread-birtherism/

It ASTOUNDS me every day when people say they won't vote for Trump because he's a liar, but then will turn around and say they're going to vote for Hillary. AS IF!!! Are you KIDDING me?????? HILLARY is the paradigm of truthfulness??? She would lie about whether or not the sun rises in the east if it benefited her. She's made herself a CAREER out of deception. OMG people, WAKE THE HECK UP!!!

That goes both ways you know?

I could never vote for a liberal. They're seriously flawed on many levels.

Lesser of two evils it is for me.

I'd vote for a dented and rusted can over Hillary.

The way I see it, my vote is really against Hillary and not so much for Donald. Many people are tired of the liberal BS. Just saying.

https://www.wired.com/2016/09/actually-accurate-headlines-donald-trumps-birther-nonsense/



RUSTY TIN CAN

VectorMan wrote:It ASTOUNDS me every day when people say they won't vote for Trump because he's a liar, but then will turn around and say they're going to vote for Hillary. AS IF!!! Are you KIDDING me?????? HILLARY is the paradigm of truthfulness??? She would lie about whether or not the sun rises in the east if it benefited her. She's made herself a CAREER out of deception. OMG people, WAKE THE HECK UP!!!

That goes both ways you know?

I could never vote for a liberal. They're seriously flawed on many levels.

Lesser of two evils it is for me.

I'd vote for a dented and rusted can over Hillary.
The way I see it, my vote is really against Hillary and not so much for Donald. Many people are tired of the liberal BS. Just saying.

Doesn't matter -- your vote for Trump is a vote for Trump.  You can "see it" any way you want but that's what it amounts to, plain and simple.   So vote for him -- that so-called human who takes "flawed" to a whole new level -- and live with it.

Meanwhile you can cease and desist, please, from copying my words and twisting them around to suit your own agenda.  Write your own words and leave mine the heck alone.

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