O.J.: Made in America

Salinsky wrote:

Vikingwoman wrote: Even OJ's closet friend and advocate Robert Kardashian finally admitted he was guilty.

Yes, and Robert Shapiro immediately following the verdict admitted that O.J.'s defense team played the race card "from the bottom of the deck".

But, Seatroll is not fooled.

He knows that race was not a factor because the jurors were black.

Floridatexan wrote:I happen to believe OJ was innocent,  

2seaoat wrote:laughable to reasonable people.


Where were his bloody clothes......where was the blood in his home......why was there just one little bit of blood in the car which smells of the old pot being dropped in the back seat.........the truth is this was a circumstantial case which NEVER was tied together by competent prosecution which could overcome the reasonable doubt of the jury..........now the Hollywood it was simple black nullification just does not reflect the jury or the evidence presentation which was absolutely incoherent.   Reasonable people.....please it is the oldest trick in the book to make juries out as idiots......well the law community knew where the incompetence laid, and it was not a writer from a sports network........oh where or how did OJ get rid of the murder weapon, his clothes,   and all the blood which would have come with that.....reasonable......just admit it, the state F'd up.

2seaoat wrote:This trolling for responses behavior is certainly not confined to this thread.

It is the exact same as 12 years ago on the PNJ......I do not swallow the pap you find edible in the OJ trial.....you did not watch it, I did.   I said exactly what I have said on this thread then because nothing has changed.  The jury nullified a terrible case in chief put in by people playing to the cameras with a weak judge who allowed cumulative evidence.   I listened to your author, and I have nothing but good things about the film, but NONE of that changes a thing....you do get that, or maybe not.  It is not trolling if you have deep beliefs and knowledge about the same.   Do people think I am a jerk......nothing new there.

2seaoat wrote:WTF! You didn't watch the trial.


Did you even bother to read what I wrote......the amount of blood in the vehicle was suspect.   The chain of custody on the blood at the scene was not established.  If you had questions about how this evidence was gathered, and the chain of custody, a person covered with blood getting in a vehicle would have left a far larger quantity of blood, or attempts to clean up the blood with evidence of cleaning attempts which rarely cover up blood evidence......there was non of that just a few strange specs of spatter.......I have reasonable doubt as to the quantity and location of the blood evidence, and a great deal of doubt on the integrity of the blood chain of custody......but keep on being legally blonde......it becomes you, because the jury had the same reasonable doubt.  The question is did you watch the trial, because you seemed to miss this point in closing and on cross examination.....but I expect nothing different in your conceptualization.

2seaoat wrote:My father died when I was 10 and he was a gentle intelligent man who I would have given anything for him to have lived to fulfill your imaginary role.

And I'm sorry you lost him so young, and I'm glad to be proven wrong, at least as to your father -- but then there may've  been other father figures you're not mentioning. But we'll let that go because it really doesn't matter to me where you earned your mind-numbing accusatory sameness on most any issue that has to do with authority, legitimate or otherwise -- especially when you can also make it about race, your most highly favored scimitar.

 No, I am a constitutional scholar.  At one point, I was going to teach the same in colleges before I made a career change.   I have total respect for the document we call our constitution, and I understand our founding fathers concern about warrants and the tyranny of a standing army stopping citizens without authority and arresting or searching them.   I understand our founding fathers faith in a fair trial of our peers, to protect us from standing armies and government abuses.   Our founding fathers must have had father issues, or maybe they did not wear the blinders of a loyalist to the British Crown which you play that role very well on this forum.

I play the role of a loyalist to the British Crown?   This is hilarious.  What will you accuse me of next?  Your negative imagination knows no bounds.

  You see I have real world experiences of governmental abuse where people have been hurt by over reaching and lying authority.

Aren't you just wonderful and perfect, above all of us penny ante people with our lack of "real world" experience (in your oh, so humble -- however woefully uninformed -- opinion, of course).  

You live your life insulated on the beach where if you could find five black residents, or five hispanic residents I would be surprised.

OH, THERE IT IS, in all its glory:  the beach bashing again by one who no longer resides on the island.   SOOO predictable -- thanks for continuing to prove me right on that score.  As to the demographics on Pensacola Beach, your ignorance is showing -- you obviously have spent no time here in recent years other than the occasional meal at Flounder's.  Oh, and why don't I label YOU racist, for PRESUMING that Blacks and Hispanics don't live here, hm??

You chose to live in the plastic bubble, and I chose to fight on the front lines where you get down and dirty and you realize that not ALL authority is bad, but that some most certainly is.

You don't know fuck-all about my choices nor my life's experiences, Mr. Knows Everything There Is to Know About Everyone Else.   As for realizing that not all authority is bad, but some is, wow, really?  You should write a book about that, because surely no one else knows that but you. Pfffft.

 I have not said one word about OJ Simpson being innocent.   I just stick to the belief that the state failed beyond a reasonable doubt to convict a defendant because of bumbling incompetence.......

And I, too, allowed as how there was gross prosecutorial incompetence at work as a significant PART of the reason the MURDERER got off scot-free.

you from your bubble just saw one more black man being uppity.......

O.  M.  G.   YOU ARE SO FULL OF CRAP YOU DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE IT SPEWING FROM YOUR MOUTH.

get mad at me, but attacking OJ who was found not guilty, attacking commissioner May, and being a cheerleader for military air shows because they are good recruiting tools.....


Your constant attacks on and misjudgements of ME, and your absolute refusal to listen to my side of any issue whatsoever when it doesn't match your entrenched, preconceived notions (and because only YOU are correct on ANYTHING), are juvenile and sickening.  And if you think your defense of OJ by attacking me doesn't show that you personally DO NOT BELIEVE (read: CANNOT ACCEPT) that he committed these murders, you're fooling no one but yourself.

gee, as much as I love your intelligence, I think sometimes you are delusional on how your arguments appear......

Gee, I think we could take a vote right now on just who's delusional here.  I would certainly not fear the results.


I am not delusional.....I am a prick

You could've stopped right there.


who does not give a rat's tail to upset the status quo when it is the right thing to do.

Actually I've come to see that you're a delusional Don Quixote, poor man.   You love playing the martyr to whatever cause YOU have decided to stir up and be right about.

 I know that the obnoxious persona I have created on this forum is just that, and I make no apologies for the same, because it makes folks in plastic bubbles to deal with contradictions.

Well golly gee, sea. you may not have noticed -- even though I've told you over and over again -- but your "obnoxious persona" (agreed) has not "made" this forum participant do anything but continue to tell you what a jerk you are.  Your obnoxious tactics simply DO NOT WORK with me.   Get it??   I doubt you do,  because you want so much to believe you're capable of shaping and reforming me.  Truly pitiful.

 You are a good person.  You are intelligent.

Please save your breath and stop patronizing me, for pity's sake.  Everything else you've said about me belies these words, so quit the fawning B.S., OK?  

and nothing I hope for you would be better than in your senior years to become enlightened.....

OHHHH, I can't WAIT to become enlightened in my senior years and be able to say that it was the wise, wonderful and humble teacher, Seaoat, who had such selfless hopes for me and was finally able to teach me.  Ooops, too late, I'm already more senior than he is and haven't seen the light.  Too bad for me.   HAHAHAHAHA.

not that my path is the right one, but the recognition of the bubble would be a good first step.

Not that your path is the right one???  Are you kidding me??? It's patently obvious, I'm certain, to every individual who reads this forum that YOUR path is the ONLY path as far as the almighty Seaoat is concerned.  Give me a holy friggin' break.

As for your imaginary "bubble," you can go blow it up you know where.  It only becomes more and more obvious with every passing post that you don't know fuck-all about me, so cram it.  

And now you've earned the dubious distinction of being the only person on earth I have ever felt the need to use such language with on a continuing basis. Heck, nothing else works with you, so it was worth a try, even though it's not my style.

Sal, Sal, or anyone else, please just tell me to quit wasting my time on this person!!