May Day / Leftist Violence

Bob wrote:One side doesn't want any capitalism.
The other side wants unbridled capitalism.
What else is new.

PkrBum wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day

In the late 19th century,May Day was chosen as the date for International Workers' Day by the Socialists and Communists of the Second International to commemorate the Haymarket affair in Chicago. International Workers' Day may also be referred to as "May Day",but it is a different celebration from the traditional May Day.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/anti-capitalist-marchers-turn-violent-injuring-two-officers-at-least-6-protesters-arrested/

A peaceful day of protest once again erupted into violence as anti-capitalist demonstrators clashed with Seattle police.

Seattle Times staff

Hurling rocks, bricks and even Molotov cocktails, anti-capitalist protesters clashed with police in downtown Seattle Sunday, as May Day mayhem erupted again following a peaceful march.

By 10:30 p.m., at least five officers had been injured and at least nine people had been arrested, Seattle police reported. One injured officer suffered a gash to his head when he was struck by a rock.

The city unleashed a massive deployment of police officers in riot gear — on foot, on bicycles, on horseback and in vehicles — to control the crowd of dozens of masked-protesters who began massing in Westlake Park for the unpermitted march shortly after 5pm.

Bob wrote:One side doesn't want any capitalism.
The other side wants unbridled capitalism.
What else is new.

PkrBum wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Floridatexan wrote:

Bob wrote:One side doesn't want any capitalism.
The other side wants unbridled capitalism.
What else is new.

What's not new is your continuing attempt to paint black on one side and white on the other and call for a new tug of war.  We don't have a capitalist economy; we have a combination of capitalism and socialism.  "Free market" proponents want laissez-faire capitalism, with no restraints on their ability to earn a buck, so they favor legislation that will accomplish that goal.  They don't want to be held accountable for the ways in which they ignore ethical standards, environmental quality, choose foreign labor over American labor, and lobby for tax policy favorable to them.  They have no problem even destroying US businesses and laying off thousands of people so long as it fattens their bottom line.  They use accountability to shareholders as a shield against criticism of their excessive compensation packages and golden parachutes...which they receive even if their shareholders get nothing and the business goes bankrupt.  They move freely from government to private sector and then back again.  The politicians who represent these people are more and more transparent about their loyalties, barely cloaking their greed, while bemoaning "big government".  It's not big government they fear; it's government regulation of their nefarious, and often illegal, activities.  

2seaoat wrote:I disagree Bob.  Tip O'neil said it best when he said all government is local.  Over the years I have served on committees and have been quite involved on issues facing local communities I have lived.  Most people start with the proposition that they want to serve their neighbors and bring cost efficient government.  If folks get big heads or screw up.....they get voted out of office at the local level.....people are involved.   On state and federal issues, people get less involved, and this is a mistake.....people need to stay involved at all levels.......good government works, and what you do for your country does matter.  I am most proud with my life coming to an end the thousands of kids I positively impacted by raising funds to keep their programs in the mid 90s.....I simply stood up at a meeting and stopped the board of education from cutting 600k of programs which would have eliminated art, music, and all sports.  The board members laughed at me, and the super gave me two weeks until the next board meeting to raise 10% of 500k.......I walked into the meeting with a check and then we did a draw down and raised another 400k, as bake sales, car washes, and private donations made it the largest private fund raiser for that state for a public school system with close to 560k raised by neighbors and community members who became involved.  We passed a referendum and the kids programs flourished and the kids won two state football championships, my daughter's friend got a scholarship in art, and another friend's daughter made the marching band in college.....all because people did not sit on the sidelines or sit on the fence.....they got involved.  I got awards and pats on the back but that was not what motivated me....I like to see justice and fairness, and hurting kids to pass a referendum made no sense.

Floridatexan wrote:

Bob wrote:One side doesn't want any capitalism.
The other side wants unbridled capitalism.
What else is new.

What's not new is your continuing attempt to paint black on one side and white on the other and call for a new tug of war.  

 

2seaoat wrote:Let's see now. You and Sal and Seaoat paint it this way. The democrats are all virtuous and the republicans are all evil.
And the other side paints all democrats as evil and all republicans as virtuous.


I have never voted for a democratic candidate for President, and my political signs in my yard have always been Republican.   I support traditional Republican candidates

Bob wrote:You keep telling us you're a lifelong republican but every post you make is to support a democrat idea or democrat policy.
You like to have your cake and eat it too and by doing so you are doing nothing but trying to pander to both republicans and democrats