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Who is Donald Trump. One person's opinion.

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Well first of all,  he's not really that much of a builder like he pretends to be.  Yes,  he does do some building,  but a good number of the properties he's built and operated have not actually met with much success.
Instead,  what he mainly is,  is a genius at self-promotion who has used the television media to create a cult of personality associated with a very valuable brand name.  He then licenses that brand name to others for a large fee. 
The brand name is put on high-rise buildings, bottled water,  vodka,  wine,  clothing and all manner of other products.
The genius of it is that he doesn't actually risk any of his own capital to sell his brand name.  It's a no-lose proposition.

Next,  he's a monumental ego who cannot tolerate any sort of criticism.  And he's so competitive that the concept of "losing" is to him what kryptonite is to Superman.

Fourthly,  he has no ideology,  no beliefs,  no core values, no nothing except an allegiance to himself and his success.

He's brilliant at assessing the current political climate and being able to adapt himself to whatever that is.
He's a chameleon who will become anything if it suits his purposes.

And now he's accomplished something that is quite  remarkable.  He's made himself so attractive to a certain segment of the electorate, that they are willing to abandon their core principles in order to follow him.

But here is where it really gets interesting.  Because he knows better than anyone that he cannot win the Presidency by being who he is portraying himself to be now.  And since the one thing that is most abhorrent to him is becoming a loser,  he is desperate to win this competition.

At some point he's going to start morphing into something different.  But this will be the biggest challenge he will ever have to face.  Because in order to become appealing to more than just his current cult following,  he is going to have to make that happen WITHOUT alienating that current cult following.

I think I've already seen the transformation begin to happen.  His latest interviews have him quieter and more reserved.   And if I'm right about that and the transformation has already begun,  you will see a slightly different Trump in the debate tonight.

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All I can add to this is this...I took GREAT pleasure in tearing up Trump's face on the junk mail I received from him today.

Laughing Laughing Stress reliever.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I had my mailed stopped starting Monday.  When I went to pick it up yesterday I had two big color anti-Trump mailers in it.  And today I got a third one.  They're spending a fortune to try to keep him from winning Florida.  lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Here's something that's puzzling to me.
That guy who punched the Trump protestor in the face in North Carolina looks like a clone of that Duck Dynasty retard Phil Robertson.  Probably has all the same ideas.

So how could a character like that support Trump when Trump has been the loudest voice on the scene to blame the Iraq war on George W Bush?  And to call Bush a liar who lied us into that war.
That guy punching Trump protestors in the face should instead be believing the Iraq war all the fault of Obama and none of the fault of Bush same as Markle and Phil Robertson believes.  And instead he SHOULD be punching Trump in the face.

This is all Twilight Zone stuff.

knothead

knothead

Good characterization Bob, think you are spot on to his shtick . . . is this fun or what?

Markle

Markle

Phil Robertson is very intelligent and very well educated. He earned his mba and was the starting quarterback for LSU.

Terry Bradshaw was his backup at LSU. Bradshaw has said that Robertson was a better quarterback and never really tried. He would come in late to practice, covered in mud. He'd go out and stun the coaches.

One day, Robertson went to Terry and told him he was quitting. Robertson was expected to go high in the draft and had a great pro career ahead of him. He told Terry that to him, football was just a past time. He'd rather be out in the woods hunting. For Terry, he wanted football more than anything else.

You might recall that Terry went on to win four Superbowls with sheer guts and determination more than skill.

Robertson taught school for several years before going back to the woods and started his little duck call business.

So your slam of him is totally unfounded.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Markle wrote:Phil Robertson is very intelligent and very well educated.  He earned his mba and was the starting quarterback for LSU.

Terry Bradshaw was his backup at LSU.  Bradshaw has said that Robertson was a better quarterback and never really tried.  He would come in late to practice, covered in mud.  He'd go out and stun the coaches.

One day, Robertson went to Terry and told him he was quitting.  Robertson was expected to go high in the draft and had a great pro career ahead of him.  He told Terry that to him, football was just a past time.  He'd rather be out in the woods hunting.  For Terry, he wanted football more than anything else.

You might recall that Terry went on to win four Superbowls with sheer guts and determination more than skill.

Robertson taught school for several years before going back to the woods and started his little duck call business.

So your slam of him is totally unfounded.  

I'm sure Oral Roberts old grandaddy from back in he woods played football too.
Just like Gomer Pyle was my Uncle and Jethro Bodine was my aunt.  Although that one is actually true.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Wait a minute, I think I got that wrong.  Nabors was my aunt,  Bodine was my uncle.  We found that out later.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Who is Donald Trump.  One person's opinion. Obl-dynasty-2

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Leaving Duck Dynasty...a reality TV show...aside for a moment, since Phil Robertson is supporting CRUZ, not Trump, let's return to the Donald.

http://joe-burd.newsvine.com/_news/2011/04/30/6561229-donald-trump-exhibiting-discernable-clear-signs-of-clinical-mental-instability-scores-of-skeletons-in-his-closet-de-facto-disqualified-to-run-for-president?lite

Donald Trump Exhibiting Discernable, Clear Signs of Clinical Mental Instability, Scores of Skeletons In His Closet, De Facto 'Disqualified' To Run for President

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PART 2 - SCORES OF SKELETONS IN HIS CLOSETS

"Him, who incessantly laughs in the street, you may commonly hear grumbling in his closet." ~Johann Kaspar Lavater

Aside from having severe psychological challenges that makes it impossible for him to do business in good faith or without a personal agenda that's poisonous to America, this is a man who accentuates and personifies the aforesaid quote.

The Donald sure does one thing well and that's public relations. Most consider Donald Trump a world-class business success and he loves to tell us that. But nothing can be further from the truth and his PR team sure does make it hard to find Trump's failures.

Let's look at some of his skeletons that might suggest he wouldn't make a good leader of the free world:

Trump Plaza Hotel bankruptcy. On Nov 2, 1992, Trump's Plaza Hotel was forced to file Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection after being unable to make its debt payments. Under the plan, Trump agreed to give up a 49% stake in this luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders.

Trump Shuttle closure. The Trump Shuttle became no more when it merged with Shuttle Inc, operating as USAir Shuttle in 1992.

Donald Trump personal bankruptcy. By 1994, Trump slashed a large portion of his $900 million personal debt and washed away $3.5 billion in his portfolio's business debt.

Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts' bankruptcy. On November 21, 2004 Trump's company filed for bankruptcy. Trump said the filing was "really just a technical thing" as the best way to implement a restructuring plan.

Donald Trump personal bankruptcy (again). Once again, Trump filed for personal bankruptcy protection and restructured his debt in 2004.

Taj Mahal bankruptcy. On November 22, 2006 Donald J. Trump’s casino empire filed for bankruptcy protection after months of negotiations with bondholders over restructuring a crushing debt.

GoTrump.com. Donald Trump's online travel search engine was launched in 2006. Just a year later it folded.

Trump 29 Casino. Now known as Spotlight 29 Casino because Donald Trump's ownership/management involvement ended in 2006.

Donald Trump Ocean Resort Baja. This Mexican resort was never built and investor's deposits (up to $500,000.00) have not been returned. Trump claims these buyers are “lucky” because they would have lost more money in a tanking market had the projects been actually built.

Trump Towers Tampa. Trump is being sued right now in Tampa, Florida for taking deposits on a 52-story condo tower that he never built. None of the buyers got their $45,000 deposits back. And in an ironic twist, initial sales of this condo were so successful that all deposits were returned to charge a higher price.

Trump International Hotel and Tower Chicago. Trump built the second tallest building in Chicago… he also defaulted on a $40 million loan. Rather than having to pay the bank loan, Trump demanded the same bank should pay him $3 billion for "undermining the project and damaging his reputation."

Trump Magazine. Trump's private-labeled publication (which was aimed at affluent readers in major US markets) suffered from sagging ad sales. It folded on May 19, 2009. This was Trump's third failed attempt at offering a magazine bearing his name.

Trump International Hotel & Tower New Orleans. If constructed, this Trump Tower would become the tallest building in the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana at 70 stories high. But the project was put on hold in February of 2009.

Trump Entertainment Resort Holdings bankruptcy. On February 17, 2009 casino operator Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection (with a debt ratio of $50 million in assets to his $500 million in debt).

Donald Trump SoHo Hotel Condominium. Donald Trump was sued for fraud over his New York SoHo condo offering in 2010. The lawsuit by 15 plaintiffs alleged that during the first 18 months of marketing, Trump advertised that the building was "30, 40, 50, 60 percent or more sold" when in fact just 16% of the units were sold.

Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico. Instead of a 525-unit luxury vacation home complex with pools and tennis courts, this project is shaping up to be a legal battle with a big hole in the ground. Dozens of angry buyers sued Trump for failing to complete the project. Trump claims he only lent his name to the project (and it was the developers who allowed the project to fail).

Trump International Hotel & Tower Fort Lauderdale. Construction was to be completed by the end of 2009 featuring 298 hotel condominium units. Having defaulted on a $139 million loan, Donald Trump announced in November of 2010 he was no longer affiliated with the project.

Trump International Hotel & Tower Las Vegas. Through the end of February 2010, the 1,282-unit condominium hotel had only closed on 302 units. That equates to a 23.6% vacancy rate. It was forced into renting out the building as apartments.

Trump International Hotel & Tower in Dubai. This 62-story mixed-used building on the Palm Jumeirah’s Golden Mile was first announced in 2005. Construction was never started and the $2.9 billion project had been canceled and replaced with a shopping mall.

When you run the math, that's 19 failures in less than 17 years… that averages one new failed business every 11 months. Even worse, a lot of people were financially ruined because of this single "successful" business guru..."

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So, Trump's "successful businessman" mistique is more a product of public relations that actual fact...and Bob was spot on.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Hilarious...Chicago "Weiner's Circle" makes Trump footlong...it's 3 inches.

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/11/size_queens_take_note_chicago_hot_dog_stand_creates_the_trump_footlong_and_its_yuuuuge/?source=newsletter

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:
Markle wrote:Phil Robertson is very intelligent and very well educated.  He earned his mba and was the starting quarterback for LSU.

Terry Bradshaw was his backup at LSU.  Bradshaw has said that Robertson was a better quarterback and never really tried.  He would come in late to practice, covered in mud.  He'd go out and stun the coaches.

One day, Robertson went to Terry and told him he was quitting.  Robertson was expected to go high in the draft and had a great pro career ahead of him.  He told Terry that to him, football was just a past time.  He'd rather be out in the woods hunting.  For Terry, he wanted football more than anything else.

You might recall that Terry went on to win four Superbowls with sheer guts and determination more than skill.

Robertson taught school for several years before going back to the woods and started his little duck call business.

So your slam of him is totally unfounded.  

I'm sure Oral Roberts old grandaddy from back in he woods played football too.
Just like Gomer Pyle was my Uncle and Jethro Bodine was my aunt.  Although that one is actually true.

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Who is Donald Trump.  One person's opinion. American%2BHitler

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Demagoguery

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:Demagoguery

Antidisestablishmentarianism

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ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:Who is Donald Trump.  One person's opinion. Nothing%20plus%20nothing_zpsp5o32y9v

I kind of figured you had nothing else to say for this thread......

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Floridatexan wrote:Who is Donald Trump.  One person's opinion. American%2BHitler

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Floridatexan wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Demagoguery

Antidisestablishmentarianism


Are you sure you didn't mean Antiestablishmentarianism? I've never really given much thght to the church of england.

Lol... the original point of course being that what you're doing is nothing of consequence... it's just a silly argumentative or political tactic to dehumanize and dimension your opponent. It's not really very creative, imaginative, or effective.

Unless it just fills some deep seated need in you that allows you to avoid actual substance and discourse. The funny part is that trump is such a flawed and easy target on a vast array of substantive issues. What is your actual intent with this?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Markle wrote:
Bob wrote:
Markle wrote:Phil Robertson is very intelligent and very well educated.  He earned his mba and was the starting quarterback for LSU.

Terry Bradshaw was his backup at LSU.  Bradshaw has said that Robertson was a better quarterback and never really tried.  He would come in late to practice, covered in mud.  He'd go out and stun the coaches.

One day, Robertson went to Terry and told him he was quitting.  Robertson was expected to go high in the draft and had a great pro career ahead of him.  He told Terry that to him, football was just a past time.  He'd rather be out in the woods hunting.  For Terry, he wanted football more than anything else.

You might recall that Terry went on to win four Superbowls with sheer guts and determination more than skill.

Robertson taught school for several years before going back to the woods and started his little duck call business.

So your slam of him is totally unfounded.  

I'm sure Oral Roberts old grandaddy from back in he woods played football too.
Just like Gomer Pyle was my Uncle and Jethro Bodine was my aunt.  Although that one is actually true.

Who is Donald Trump.  One person's opinion. Nothing%20plus%20nothing_zpsp5o32y9v

You missed the whole point of the post,  markle.  So we'll go over it again.
I pointed out that the guy who sucker punched the one at the rally probably has most all the same ideas as Phil Robertson. 
And because of that,  I said how ironic it is that this guy is supporting Trump who says Bush lied us into a useless war.  Because guys like him and Robertson worship Bush. 

The whole point was that Robertson is supporting Cruz who also worships Bush because that's in keeping with how this ilk thinks.
Again,  the irony is that this guy is willing to throw Bush under the bus because he's so in love with Trump.  He's like a homo who was first in love with somebody.  But then Rock Hudson comes along and the homo is so smitten with him that he abandons his current lover.
And all this when we've always been told there are no homo republicans.
I tell you the world is now upside down.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

And by the way,  markel,  why on earth are you defending some peacenik who says Bush lied us into a useless war?  Because that goes against your core beliefs that Bush was a masterful commander-in-chief who beat the enemy and won the war before that commie obama lost it back again.

In fact you told me only progressives believe Bush lied us into a useless war.  That makes Trump a progressive.  Why on earth are you defending a progressive?

See that's what's so mysterious about all this.  This Trump character is no more conservative than I am.  And no more Christian than I am.  In fact,  he's the all time champeen of "fence sitters".  He jumps back and forth between both sides of the fence before you can say the word "yuuuge".

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:And by the way, markel, why on earth are you defending some peacenik who says Bush lied us into a useless war? Because that goes against your core beliefs that Bush was a masterful commander-in-chief who beat the enemy and won the war before that commie obama lost it back again.

In fact you told me only progressives believe Bush lied us into a useless war. That makes Trump a progressive. Why on earth are you defending a progressive?

See that's what's so mysterious about all this. This Trump character is no more conservative than I am. And no more Christian than I am. In fact, he's the all time champeen of "fence sitters". He jumps back and forth between both sides of the fence before you can say the word "yuuuge".

Please admit that is a flat out lie or show us where I made that statement.

Good luck.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Well of course progressives believe Bush lied us into the war,  markel.  Why would you not believe that and why would you not want to say it. 
If you're now gonna tell me conservatives are the ones who believe Bush lied us into a useless war,  then you will at that point lose all your credibility.
Progressives believe that.  Trump believes that.  That makes Trump a progressive.  Period.
What's next,  Markle?  Are you gonna start defending Satan against God because Satan has the ability to brainwash you too?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Two observations about the latest developments in the Trump Show.

1.  There's one thing you cannot deny Donald Trump.  He has single-handedly brought more Americans into the election process and  brought more new American voters to the polls,  than any other American in history.

2. As I was writing the first one I somehow managed to forget what the second one was.  Since the operation,  I've had some memory loss.  Must have resulted from lack of oxygen when they collapsed one lung.



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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Demagoguery

Antidisestablishmentarianism


Are you sure you didn't mean Antiestablishmentarianism? I've never really given much thght to the church of england.

Lol... the original point of course being that what you're doing is nothing of consequence... it's just a silly argumentative or political tactic to dehumanize and dimension your opponent. It's not really very creative, imaginative, or effective.

Unless it just fills some deep seated need in you that allows you to avoid actual substance and discourse. The funny part is that trump is such a flawed and easy target on a vast array of substantive issues. What is your actual intent with this?

It refers to a group of (sane) people who didn't want to retain the Anglican Church as the official (government) authority...so it definitely applies to those, like me, who don't want a church-sponsored religion in this country, which we would no doubt have with any of the leading GOP candidates...even Trump, who really tried to wow the evangelicals by waving around a Bible, which he probably considers an inferior book to THE ART OF THE DEAL. Comprende? It's funny how you keep throwing around the word "demagogery" without even elaborating on whose. And then to accuse me of avoiding actual discourse. My intent is to illuminate and inform, just as always.

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