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MSM begins to paint the group in Oregon as white terrorists....in preparation.....WACO 2

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Floridatexan wrote:
PkrBum wrote:It's funny that the occupy movement was patriots in search of justice... but these are perps and retarded redneck seditionists.

THEY HAVE GUNS...NOT SIGNS...

The only thing you have documented above is a whole lot of pushback by police and infiltration by the opposition...maybe a few radical elements, but nothing like the extreme right-wingers in Oregon.

Ya... the gun and bomb arrests were plants... lol. You simply WON'T see anything that doesn't fit what you like.

Maureen Peltier, a Washington Army National Guard staff sergeant and member of the so-called patriot movement ,toldThe Oregonian that some in the group were armed and others were not. "There is absolutely no armed standoff," she wrote. "Roads were clear going to & coming from. They want us to know: They are simply occupying land and a building owned by 'We The People.' Our tax dollars. And that for them, this is a civil peaceful protest."

You are so biased by what you read it's scary. This group is basically following the occupy mold... minus rape, bombs, destruction, and armed felons. The only reason you are against this is that they are protesting federal govt overreach.

Oh the horror... lol.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

How do we know the same thing happening here isn't what happened at San Bernardino,  Boston,  Aurora and Sandy Hook,  among others?
Because of course we know that in all of those cases,  the shadow government  was the perpetrator and no one was actually who he seemed to be.  In the case of Sandy Hook,  we now know a professional actor from Hollywood was hired to play two parts.  Both the father of a supposed dead child,  AND a member of the SWAT team sent to the school. 
So this time how do we know that these so-called perpetrators aren't just agents of the shadow government,  and like at Sandy Hook,  when it looks like they get shot and killed,  it's all just a fraud.  Because we now know that no children died at that school either.
All of these false flags designed to get the American people to give up their guns.

Only you sheeple don't know this because you always believe the official story.  I pity you.

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Guest

Here is the core issue. The father and son were convicted and sentenced and served their time. Then they were resentenced.

The dispute over the land and management were political. There was an endangered grouse that was really what the feds were using to control the land. They had been shrinking the available land for years. Btw... the grouse is no longer endangered.

But it is humorous watching the hypocritical leftists... it wasn't long ago that they were all for civil disobedience... lol.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-ranchers-reject-cliven-bundy-family-occupation/

"The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time - the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each."

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Feds need to control all western mineral rights...they'll let their crony capitalist make a killing out there...Money...that's the Fed motive...maybe use some of the land as security on their loans with a little UN Agenda 2030 tossed in for good measure...

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Here is the core issue. The father and son were convicted and sentenced and served their time. Then they were resentenced.

The dispute over the land and management were political. There was an endangered grouse that was really what the feds were using to control the land. They had been shrinking the available land for years. Btw... the grouse is no longer endangered.

But it is humorous watching the hypocritical leftists... it wasn't long ago that they were all for civil disobedience... lol.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-ranchers-reject-cliven-bundy-family-occupation/

"The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time - the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each."

That's not the core issue.

The core issue is that these retards are anti-government wingnutz who are using this issue as an excuse to promote their radical agenda of sedition.

Everyone from the sheriff, to the founder of the Oath Keepers, to the ranchers at the center of the controversy can obviously see that.

Everyone except some random internet dumbass who wants to make ludicrous comparisons to Occupy Wall Street, that is.

Harney County Sheriff David M. Ward warned residents to avoid the refuge, about 30 minutes south of Burns, and warned that the group’s intent was nothing less than total overthrow of the government.

“These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives, to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States,” Ward said in a statement Sunday.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ff-militia-oregon-20160103-story.html

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

That's right long live king Obama...damned revolutionaries...how's good loyalist to live a peaceful life ?

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Salinsky wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Here is the core issue. The father and son were convicted and sentenced and served their time. Then they were resentenced.

The dispute over the land and management were political. There was an endangered grouse that was really what the feds were using to control the land. They had been shrinking the available land for years. Btw... the grouse is no longer endangered.

But it is humorous watching the hypocritical leftists... it wasn't long ago that they were all for civil disobedience... lol.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-ranchers-reject-cliven-bundy-family-occupation/

"The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time - the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each."

That's not the core issue.

The core issue is that these retards are anti-government wingnutz who are using this issue as an excuse to promote their radical agenda of sedition.

Everyone from the sheriff, to the founder of the Oath Keepers, to the ranchers at the center of the controversy can obviously see that.

Everyone except some random internet dumbass who wants to make ludicrous comparisons to Occupy Wall Street, that is.

Harney County Sheriff David M. Ward warned residents to avoid the refuge, about 30 minutes south of Burns, and warned that the group’s intent was nothing less than total overthrow of the government.

“These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives, to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States,” Ward said in a statement Sunday.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ff-militia-oregon-20160103-story.html

Wrong... it was over... time served. The issue now was the arbitrary whim of this federal judge to send them back to prison.

They were ordered to turn themselves in TODAY. You can twist it into anything you want... but it isn't the truth. Get a clue.

Sal

Sal

TEOTWAWKI wrote:That's right long live king Obama...damned revolutionaries...how's good loyalist to live a peaceful life ?

These nimrods needed guns to take an unoccupied bird sanctuary center, for Christ's sake.

Saratoga, this ain't.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Salinsky wrote:

These nimrods needed guns to take an unoccupied bird sanctuary center, for Christ's sake.

Saratoga, this ain't.


I wouldn't sell the birds too short.  I bet these folks wished they had guns.

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EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

Just wait 'em out .... they won't be there long. I doubt many of 'em will want to miss the Superbowl.

Guest


Guest

The father and son turned themselves in as ordered. It's over unless obama wants to kill him some gun toters.

The father is in his seventies btw... it's bullshit to throw him in prison again.

Sal

Sal

They're white clodhoppers.

They're safe.

Now, if they were Muslims or black kids with BB guns, they would've wasted days ago.

Guest


Guest

What color were waco and ruby ridge baiter?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:What color were waco and ruby ridge baiter?


As I see it, except for the children who had no choice, the whacko Christian anarchists who made Ruby Ridge their Alamo got exactly what they deserved.

The facts are, there are things called elections, and legislation with which any group of angry or dissatisfied Americans can change or attempt to change the things they're against.

That includes stupid, armed cowboys and frightened ex-military types who think it would be worthwhile fun to make an armed stand against their country. Just like John Brown, right?

Oh well, there's plenty of lariats in that part of Oregon -- more than enough to hang treasonous assholes like the Bundys.

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Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:What color were waco and ruby ridge baiter?


As I see it, except for the children who had no choice, the whacko Christian anarchists who made Ruby Ridge their Alamo got exactly what they deserved.

The facts are, there are things called elections, and legislation with which any group of angry or dissatisfied Americans can change or attempt to change the things they're against.

That includes stupid, armed cowboys and frightened ex-military types who think it would be worthwhile fun to make an armed stand against their country. Just like John Brown, right?

Oh well, there's plenty of lariats in that part of Oregon -- more than enough to hang treasonous assholes like the Bundys.

While you ignore, excuse, and rationalize the occupy movement because you happen to agree with their cause.

I find it incredible that you seem to think that your will is going to be respected by an enormous central govt.

That's not how it winds up... comrade. See what happens to protesters in russia or china no matter their grievance.

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

It's gotta be cold out there ... did they turn off the electricity to the building?

(perhaps you can tell I haven't really followed this story)

polecat

polecat

EmeraldGhost wrote:Just wait 'em out .... they won't be there long.   I doubt many of 'em will want to miss the Superbowl.

or cashing there ''SOCIAL'' security checks.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:What color were waco and ruby ridge baiter?


As I see it, except for the children who had no choice, the whacko Christian anarchists who made Ruby Ridge their Alamo got exactly what they deserved.  

The facts are, there are things called elections, and legislation with which any group of angry or dissatisfied Americans can change or attempt to change the things they're against.

That includes stupid, armed cowboys and frightened ex-military types who think it would be worthwhile fun to make an armed stand against their country.   Just like John Brown, right?  

Oh well, there's plenty of lariats in that part of Oregon -- more than enough to hang treasonous assholes like the Bundys.  

While you ignore, excuse, and rationalize the occupy movement because you happen to agree with their cause.

I find it incredible that you seem to think that your will is going to be respected by an enormous central govt.

That's not how it winds up... comrade. See what happens to protesters in russia or china no matter their grievance.


I think you will never be able to deal with reality Pkrbum. The peaceful civil disobedience Occupy movement was not an armed stand against the federal government. Was it?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

"Does the government fear us? Or do we fear the government? When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!" T. J.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:It's funny that the occupy movement was patriots in search of justice... but these are perps and retarded redneck seditionists.


Finally, you got it!  The Occupy Movement was indeed comprised of mostly young people seeking economic justice.  And the armed hayseeds who have chosen to make a stand against their country, are without doubt white redneck seditionists.  I've added racism to the description because Cliven Bundy's prior statements about black slavery make it clear these folk are much closer to being Skinheads than than any sort of patriotic mob.

Considering all that, it's obvious why you and Teo and all your hard right whacko friends come to the defense of these seditionists.  The truth is, these wanna-be Lone Rangers want, like Trump, to take their country back ... back to maybe 1840?  I suggest that what these guys really reflect is people who have come to understand that their kind -- white America -- is fast becoming a minority; a reality they are clearly unable to digest.  It's that damned federal government who has made it possible for blacks and browns and yellows to take over.  "Get yer six-shooters boys.  Let's make a stand for white racism and Christian cowboy justice!!"

It's another showdown at the OK Corral.  And once again, just like before, Wyatt Earp and his brothers and Doc Holliday represent the American government.  

Hell, this is BETTER than Tarantino! I'm going to chew popcorn and drink Coke every time I read the news about this ongoing tragi-comedy.  

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

For an accurate, interesting and well-written analysis of what's going on in Oregon, read this:

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/34434-whats-happening-in-oregon-is-nothing-less-than-armed-sedition

Guest


Guest

Oh good... another soros sponsored opinion. I swear you leftists don't think for yourselves... how useful.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Oh good... another soros sponsored opinion. I swear you leftists don't think for yourselves... how useful.

Charles Pierce is sponsored by Soros?

Who knew?

Actually, if you believe anything that is being said by Ammon Bundy and his merry band of morons is in any way rational or has any relationship with reality, your thinking is immediately disqualified from any meaningful discussion.

Guest


Guest

The same guy that headed truthout started readersupportednews. It's just another tangent of soros propaganda.

Sal

Sal

It was simply reposted from Pierce's Esquire Politics Blog, so I guess that would be a swing and a miss by you.

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