Criminal Inquiry Recommended in Hillary Email Scandal

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/16/number-of-hillary-clintons-emails-flagged-for-clas/

While media coverage has focused on a half-dozen of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s personal emails containing sensitive intelligence, the total number of her private emails identified by an ongoing State Department review as having contained classified data has ballooned to 60, officials told The Washington Times.

That figure is current through the end of July and is likely to grow as officials wade through a total of 30,000 work-related emails that passed through her personal email server, officials said. The process is expected to take months.

As many times as you attempt to make a private server as being in violation of the law, it is simply not true.  Also, I have hosted web sites with email for two businesses.  The content of my server could be easily accessed by any number of layers of employees.  You keep acting like a home server is less secure.  I can say this without any hesitation that with proper security protocols that is simply not true.  In many ways it is far less insecure  because each employee of a secure server can compromise the security of the overall network.  We see this on the front page every month where major government and corporate servers have been hacked.   Now you assume her intent was to be dishonest.  I see it as a rational method to keep the President's and her email's private and lowering the probability of the same by locating the server in their home.  How you come up with these weird theories is beyond me.  Convenience and security were probably legitimate reasons, and a VPN tunnel with bank level encryption can connect million of employees who work from their homes with highly sensitive material..........this entire email controversy is fodder for all the AOL email folks who are severely challenged.

Here's the code that the fbi are conducting their criminal investigation.

My guess is it's as to who removed the classifications... for starters. Then whether everyone had clearance.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or

(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or

(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or

(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(b) As used in subsection (a) of this section—The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.

(c) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.

Still cannot find a statute which a prosecutor can meet his burden.  Keep beating that dead horse.  You are right that the review of declassification could be a problem for some State folks, but I doubt it where the intent was not there.  Really absolutely nothing for any thinking human being.

I'm not amused that you take the side of an enormous central govt that collects everything we say and do... but you show no interest in defending we the peoples right to review the acts of our public servants. Their acts are public domain... and she lied.

If you're just taking the other side here for amusement... you are doing a disservice to our ability to check govt.

From another thread: "contextually it was not a crime"

“Everything I did was permitted. There was no law. There was no regulation. There was nothing that did not give me the full authority to decide how I was going to communicate. Previous secretaries of state have said they did the same thing…. Everything I did was permitted by law and regulation. I had one device. When I mailed anybody in the government, it would go into the government system.” Hillary

U.S. Code of federal regulations on handling electronic records; updated 2009 : “Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record-keeping system. The responsibility for making and preserving the records is assigned to the head of each federal agency



We know for a FACT that she did not turn over all emails to the state dept. Blumenthal turned over emails that she didn't.

We probably wouldn't know this had not his email account been hacked.

We know that she received and sent classified emails. That "mysteriously" these emails had been laundered of markers.

We know that she had a team of her insiders review 50k+ emails to decide what is public domain and what is not.

We know that she printed out each email in this stage of technology to turn over to the state dept.

We know that she then turned over the server to a third party. Supposedly then copied and then all copies destroyed.

Who authorized that? Is she seriously going to throw everyone under the bus and have useful idiots vote for her?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/08/16/hillarys-unspinnable-problem/

She faces a problem for which spinning is of little or no use. The FBI is not spinnable. Even more ominous for Clinton, The Post reports, “The investigation is being overseen by two veteran prosecutors in the Justice Department’s National Security Division. One of them helped manage the prosecution of David H. Petraeus, the retired general and former CIA director who was sentenced to probation earlier this year after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified materials. He was also fined $100,000.” Treating Hillary Clinton just like other top officials who have been prosecuted for mishandling secret information is about the last thing Hillaryland wants.

Former attorney general Michael Mukasey explains how troubling the allegations are and how indefensible is the alleged conduct:

It is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than a year to keep “documents or materials containing classified information . . . at an unauthorized location.” Note that it is the information that is protected; the issue doesn’t turn on whether the document or materials bear a classified marking. This is the statute under which David Petraeus—former Army general and Central Intelligence Agency director—was prosecuted for keeping classified information at home. Mrs. Clinton’s holding of classified information on a personal server was a violation of that law. So is transferring that information on a thumb drive to David Kendall, her lawyer.

After reviewing more serious potential charges, he reminds us, “It is inconceivable that the nation’s senior foreign-relations official was unaware of the risk that communications about this country’s relationships with foreign governments would be of particular interest to those governments, and to others. It is no answer to say, as Mrs. Clinton did at one time, that emails were not marked classified when sent or received. . . . [T]he laws are concerned with the sensitivity of information, not the sensitivity of the markings on whatever may contain the information.” But remember “not enough evidence to prosecute” is not the standard for a presidential candidate. That she could have used a system that subjected the nation’s secrets to hacking, her aides to prosecution and herself to blackmail raise a fundamental question about her fitness for office. “Once you assume a public office, your communications about anything having to do with your job are not your personal business or property. They are the public’s business and the public’s property, and are to be treated as no different from communications of like sensitivity,” Mukasey observes. “That something so obvious could have eluded Mrs. Clinton raises questions about her suitability both for the office she held and for the office she seeks.”

In short, Clinton has two problems: An electorate convinced she is dishonest and reckless and incorruptible FBI and prosecutorial experts who have set a precedent for treatment of high-level officials. If there is any good news for Democrats it is that all this has come out months before the first primary votes have been cast.

Michael Mukasey...former AG under Bush...dual Israeli citizen...torture defender...and great all-around guy. You can read more about him here:

http://www.defraudingamerica.com/mukasey_nomination.html

There is no crime.  Now if Hillary says she was selling classified documents to third parties and makes that admission......well yes......a crime was committed, but this speculation and projection of facts not in evidence is simply sophomoric propaganda where the truth is secondary to the association of Hillary to some nebulous bad thing.....it is mind numbing stupid.

Lol... that's funny Teo. Today she gave an interview in an orange jumpsuit.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/08/19/fact-check-hillary-clinton-email/31998177/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/19/state-dept-destroyed-clinton-aides-blackberrys/

The State Department destroyed the BlackBerry devices issued to two top aides of former Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton and never issued Mrs. Clinton a device at all, officials told a federal court Wednesday in a filing that raises still more security questions.

The filing came a day before officials will have to appear in court to detail the steps they took to try to track down Mrs. Clinton’s emails, and whatever computers or other devices she may have used to send them.

All three used email accounts not issued by the State Department to conduct government business, and all three are now under court orders to return those documents to the department to belatedly comply with open-records laws.

drip drip drip

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go —regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not.

In the small fraction of emails made public so far,Reuters has found at least 30 email threads from 2009,representing scores of individual emails,that include what the State Department's own "Classified" stamps now identify as so-called 'foreign government information.' The U.S. government defines this as any information,written or spoken,provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts.

This sort of information,which the department says Clinton both sent and received in her emails,is the only kind that must be "presumed" classified,in part to protect national security and the integrity of diplomatic interactions, according to U.S. regulations examined by Reuters.

"It's born classified," said J. William Leonard,a former director of the U.S. government's Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO).

drip....Obama birth certificate.......drip......benghazi.....drip......Lois lerner is going to jail......drip.....Hillary committed a crime........yes you are correct that absolute nonsense is dripping out of the politically challenged that this issue over a year from the election is going to impact anything.  There will be no prosecution a year from now and the public has tired of the crying of "wolf".....drip drip drip.

2seaoat wrote:drip....Obama birth certificate.......drip......benghazi.....drip......Lois lerner is going to jail......drip.....Hillary committed a crime........yes you are correct that absolute nonsense is dripping out of the politically challenged that this issue over a year from the election is going to impact anything.  There will be no prosecution a year from now and the public has tired of the crying of "wolf".....drip drip drip.

Obama's mother was born a citizen.

Benghazi was a clusterfuck worthy of investigation and govt cooperation. It was either naive or incompetent. Lying about a youtube and then obfuscation after the fact is a sad reflection upon our current state of near no govt accountability.

Hillary likely committed a crime. She tried to separate herself obviously. Others screening emails... no awareness of classification... transmitting the info to her lawyer... dumping the server on a third party. I guess that's good govt to you.

Our govt will continue to become less accountable and more authoritarian thanks to useful idiots like you.

An electorate convinced she is dishonest


When did that become a criminal standard? When will somebody say...I am sorry Seaoat....you were right.....will it take a year.....will it take until after the election.....or like all the other sure things.....there will be crickets.....I am sure crickets will be the rule.

If she is indicted.....I will certainly eat my crow, but bogus scandal after bogus scandal and none of you take ownership......it just fades from your memory. Hillary Clinton was authorized and never had the intent to transfer documents to third parties. The General did.....he did get prosecuted....Hillary will not, and I am beginning to think she is intentionally not responding to allow all this hype so that she can let them waste their time on this nothing scandal. She is smart.......she is smiling at all this negative attention and the delays in State redacting documents which will get her to the primary season in January and this will be all in the rear view mirror. Voters do not care and they do not believe she is dishonest.....you see primary voters know the routine with the attacks. In the general election other than Kasich, Hillary will win in a landslide.