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Total Chaos in Baltimore. Baltimore creates their own problems by NOT being transparent about the inexcusable death of Freddie Gray.

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nadalfan
Wordslinger
KarlRove
Joanimaroni
Hospital Bob
Markle
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boards of FL

boards of FL

KarlRove wrote:
nadalfan wrote:
KarlRove wrote:not a liberal response yet and when it comes it will be excuse after excuse
 
No excuses, but this is how I feel

It makes me angry to see the riots and destruction of property because it's senseless, useless, and costly.  It takes away from a movement for justice that I believe is absolutely necessary.  
It also makes me angry because, even though there were thousands of peaceful protests, the focus on here is the small percentage of criminals that are looting and rioting.  Where is the outrage for what happened to Freddie Gray or Walter Scott?  Why no comments on those cases?
It also makes me angry because it makes some of you feel that your distorted, blinded perception of what is going on in these communities is validated.  

Why don't the looters and  rioters expend as much energy in peaceful change? are they not articulate enough to do so?


Look, everyone.  Our functionally illiterate forum republican who regularly pushes for pre-emptive war against Iran is suggesting that the citizens of Baltimore exercise peace and restraint after Freddie Gray - the next in a series of victims - was murdered by the local police.  Further, if they do not show peace and restraint, it is because "they not articulate enough to do so".

GOP 2016!  Representing the dumbest base in the history of humanity!


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Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

boards of FL wrote:
KarlRove wrote:
nadalfan wrote:
KarlRove wrote:not a liberal response yet and when it comes it will be excuse after excuse
 
No excuses, but this is how I feel

It makes me angry to see the riots and destruction of property because it's senseless, useless, and costly.  It takes away from a movement for justice that I believe is absolutely necessary.  
It also makes me angry because, even though there were thousands of peaceful protests, the focus on here is the small percentage of criminals that are looting and rioting.  Where is the outrage for what happened to Freddie Gray or Walter Scott?  Why no comments on those cases?
It also makes me angry because it makes some of you feel that your distorted, blinded perception of what is going on in these communities is validated.  

Why don't the looters and  rioters expend as much energy in peaceful change? are they not articulate enough to do so?


Look, everyone.  Our functionally illiterate forum republican who regularly pushes for pre-emptive war against Iran is suggesting that the citizens of Baltimore exercise peace and restraint after Freddie Gray - the next in a series of victims - was murdered by the local police.  Further, if they do not show peace and restraint, it is because "are they not articulate enough to do so"?[

GOP 2016!  Representing the dumbest base in the history of humanity!

Markle

Markle

Joanimaroni wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
KarlRove wrote:
nadalfan wrote:
KarlRove wrote:not a liberal response yet and when it comes it will be excuse after excuse
 
No excuses, but this is how I feel

It makes me angry to see the riots and destruction of property because it's senseless, useless, and costly.  It takes away from a movement for justice that I believe is absolutely necessary.  
It also makes me angry because, even though there were thousands of peaceful protests, the focus on here is the small percentage of criminals that are looting and rioting.  Where is the outrage for what happened to Freddie Gray or Walter Scott?  Why no comments on those cases?
It also makes me angry because it makes some of you feel that your distorted, blinded perception of what is going on in these communities is validated.  

Why don't the looters and  rioters expend as much energy in peaceful change? are they not articulate enough to do so?


Look, everyone.  Our functionally illiterate forum republican who regularly pushes for pre-emptive war against Iran is suggesting that the citizens of Baltimore exercise peace and restraint after Freddie Gray - the next in a series of victims - was murdered by the local police.  Further, if they do not show peace and restraint, it is because "are they not articulate enough to do so"?[

GOP 2016!  Representing the dumbest base in the history of humanity!

BoardsofFL is making a feeble attempt at appearing articulate. FAIL!

Keep in mind BoardsofFL, it was YOUR party who called YOU STUPID.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TV showing us some really impressive Baltimorians (if that's how you say it) on the streets of West Baltimore today. Most all African Americans.
They all feel just as strongly about the incidents of unjustified police brutality against blacks but they've adopted Martin Luther King's way of making change happen.

Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:
What's your solution to this problem, Sal?

If you're asking for my solution to the systematic, institutionalized, and intractable racism that festers in this nation, that's far too broad and complicated a subject for this forum, and I'm unqualified to make a case.

In regards to what we're seeing in Baltimore, we need independent civilian review boards, an end to broken windows policing, better training for officers, and a broad outreach from law enforcement to the communities they police.

Let's not forget where this began.

By all accounts, Freddie Gray was pursued, arrested, and ultimately killed for the crime of "making eye contact" with law enforcement and running away.

This has to stop.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Bob wrote:TV showing us some really impressive Baltimorians (if that's how you say it) on the streets of West Baltimore today.  Most all African Americans.
They all feel just as strongly about the incidents of unjustified police brutality against blacks but they've adopted Martin Luther King's way of making change happen.  


Mr. Valentine started it last night.....I'm glad to see more and more joining in. So different from Ferguson. We don't see the family doing what Brown's family member did......grab his crotch and scream "burn this bitch down".

It's unfortunate the buildings burned were there for the citizens in need.

Sal

Sal

Joanimaroni wrote:
The THUG term was used by the Maryland and Baltimore officials and POTUS. So stuff it.

Although I'm loathe to use the term "thug", because it seems to be the new n-word, I agree that the rioters and looters are common criminals that deserve to be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I do not agree that they are indicative of the entire demographic of young black males.

Hint: This is where you normally provide some bogus statistics regarding blacks and crime or start talking about violence in Chicago.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
The THUG term was used by the Maryland and Baltimore officials and POTUS. So stuff it.

Although I'm loathe to use the term "thug", because it seems to be the new n-word, I agree that the rioters and looters are common criminals that deserve to be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I do not agree that they are indicative of the entire demographic of young black males.

Hint:  This is where you normally provide some bogus statistics regarding blacks and crime or start talking about violence in Chicago.


No one has ever said it was the entire demographic of young blacks. I know I have never said or insinuated it.


Hint: You have refused to acknowledge the "THUG" mentality. You made excuses for the thug behaviour in Ferguson. The word thug is being used by all the Maryland officials and the President, are they using thug to replace the "N-word" or just being honest and calling the violent destructive behaviour for what it is?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I'm sure glad to see Sal apply the term "common criminal" correctly. Seaoat could learn something from this. lol

Yes, a thug breaking into a store and stealing shit IS a "common" criminal.
A criminal who sets off bombs at the Boston Marathon and kills, dismembers and injures 267 people is NOT a "common" criminal. That is, thank heaven, a very UNCOMMON criminal.





Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Joanimaroni wrote: The word thug is being used by all the Maryland officials and the President

By the way,  many of those Baltimore officials are African American.  And so is the President. And all using that "racist" word.
I guess Sal must think those folk are racists too.  lol

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Bob wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote: The word thug is being used by all the Maryland officials and the President

By the way,  many of those Baltimore officials are African American.  And so is the President.  And all using that "racist" word.
I guess Sal must think those folk are racists too.  lol

Sal spends his time defending thug behaviour. Why?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Joanimaroni wrote:
Sal spends his time defending thug behaviour. Why?

I dunno, but Sal surely doesn't ascribe to the philosophy of Martin Luther King. I hope he doesn't think King was a racist too.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

The Baltimore mayor before the riots said...

"It’s a very delicate balancing act, because while we tried to make sure that they were protected from the cars and the other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy,  space to do that as well.”

Now she's calling those she "gave the space to destroy" thugs.  lol

Yella

Yella

Bob wrote:That mayor is a moron.  Somebody needs to put a muzzle on her.

Heres a way to stop rioting and looting.
Place about a dozen skilled snipers with silenced weapons to take out anyone looting or destroying property. Some thug walks out of a store with a TV set and then drops dead in front of his homies. This is called a deterrent.

http://warpedinblue,blogspot.com/

2seaoat



No excuses, but this is how I feel

It makes me angry to see the riots and destruction of property because it's senseless, useless, and costly. It takes away from a movement for justice that I believe is absolutely necessary.
It also makes me angry because, even though there were thousands of peaceful protests, the focus on here is the small percentage of criminals that are looting and rioting. Where is the outrage for what happened to Freddie Gray or Walter Scott? Why no comments on those cases?
It also makes me angry because it makes some of you feel that your distorted, blinded perception of what is going on in these communities is validated.

Bingo!

Yella

Yella

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ&list=RDQR465HoCWFQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVKwE-VkDQo

http://warpedinblue,blogspot.com/

2seaoat



Heres a way to stop rioting and looting.
Place about a dozen skilled snipers with silenced weapons to take out anyone looting or destroying property. Some thug walks out of a store with a TV set and then drops dead in front of his homies. This is called a deterrent.

heres a way to stop police violence to citizens.
Place about a dozen skilled snipers with silenced weapons to take out any police officer who has harmed citizens.  Some police officer walks out of the station after killing an unarmed citizen, and then drops dead in front of his homies.   This is called deterrent.

Total nonsense.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

For Seaoat

I hate violent criminals of all types.  That includes looters, arsonists and thugs,  cops who sever people's spinal cords,  cops who shoot people in the back who are running away,  Johar Tsarnaev,  the POS with the orange hair on trial for mass murdering people in a movie theatre, ISIS,  dick Cheney,  and so forth and so on.

Yella

Yella

2seaoat wrote:Heres a way to stop rioting and looting.
Place about a dozen skilled snipers with silenced weapons to take out anyone looting or destroying property. Some thug walks out of a store with a TV set and then drops dead in front of his homies. This is called a deterrent.

heres a way to stop police violence to citizens.
Place about a dozen skilled snipers with silenced weapons to take out any police officer who has harmed citizens.  Some police officer walks out of the station after killing an unarmed citizen, and then drops dead in front of his homies.   This is called deterrent.

Total nonsense.

http://clashdaily.com/2015/04/freddy-grays-arrest-record-heres-the-rap-sheet-of-the-dude-theyre-destroying-baltimore-over/

How's this, Mr Oats?

http://warpedinblue,blogspot.com/

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:
Bob wrote:
What's your solution to this problem, Sal?

If you're asking for my solution to the systematic, institutionalized, and intractable racism that festers in this nation, that's far too broad and complicated a subject for this forum, and I'm unqualified to make a case.

In regards to what we're seeing in Baltimore, we need independent civilian review boards, an end to broken windows policing, better training for officers, and a broad outreach from law enforcement to the communities they police.

Let's not forget where this began.

By all accounts, Freddie Gray was pursued, arrested, and ultimately killed for the crime of "making eye contact" with law enforcement and running away.

This has to stop.

How can this happen? Democrats have, as in Detroit, run the city for decades. Why is not everything butterflies and unicorns?

How can the broken window policy be stopped when it obviously was not being used?

Did the mayor of Baltimore say that she was giving the rioters space to riot, destroy property and loot? Were the police not ordered to stand down and allow hundreds of thugs to burn 15 buildings and loot hundreds of stores doing millions of dollars in damage?

How well did that work?

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:It's certainly a tragic and unfortunate cycle.

We have an entire demographic of impoverished young black males who are criminally suspect due to their very existence and to whom it is demonstrated regularly that their lives have no value to society.

And, when a small segment of that demographic lashes out in frustration and anger, privileged whites wag their fingers and say, "Told ya, they're all thugs".

Please show us where anyone of significance has said: "Told ya, they're all thugs".

If you typically dodge and attempt to weasel out of the request, you are a substantial part of the problem.

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
The THUG term was used by the Maryland and Baltimore officials and POTUS. So stuff it.

Although I'm loathe to use the term "thug", because it seems to be the new n-word, I agree that the rioters and looters are common criminals that deserve to be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I do not agree that they are indicative of the entire demographic of young black males.

Hint:  This is where you normally provide some bogus statistics regarding blacks and crime or start talking about violence in Chicago.

Ooooooo you are LOATHE to use the term "thug" because it seems to be the new n-word. I am so impressed!

Where does that appear? That the word thug, is now the n-word. A fragment of your imagination? Or are you trying to eliminate all the words for worthless lowlifes until the only "acceptable" term is "fine upstanding citizen"?

If they had a more derogatory term than thug, I would use that. Any suggestions? Remember "thug" applies equally to all races.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Consider: the chaos in Baltimore isn't a riot, it's an uprising.

It's the logical response to being oppressed, marginalized and victimized by a white racist society and culture that, out of sheer fear, cannot accept any minority as an equal.


We are referring to the same society that regards the first African American president as an Kenyan-born Muslim with more ties to ISIS and Al Qaida than to freedom and democracy.

We shouldn't be surprised at what's happening in Baltimore.  The real surprise is how little violence has erupted thus far!

Reality.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
The THUG term was used by the Maryland and Baltimore officials and POTUS. So stuff it.

Although I'm loathe to use the term "thug", because it seems to be the new n-word, I agree that the rioters and looters are common criminals that deserve to be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I do not agree that they are indicative of the entire demographic of young black males.

Hint:  This is where you normally provide some bogus statistics regarding blacks and crime or start talking about violence in Chicago.

Ooooooo you are LOATHE to use the term "thug" because it seems to be the new n-word.  I am so impressed!

Where does that appear?  That the word thug, is now the n-word.  A fragment of your imagination?  Or are you trying to eliminate all the words for worthless lowlifes until the only "acceptable" term is "fine upstanding citizen"?

If they had a more derogatory term than thug, I would use that.  Any suggestions?  Remember "thug" applies equally to all races.


Yes, and "thug" evidently applies also to all too many police officers as well. 

Sal

Sal

Markle wrote:
If they had a more derogatory term than thug, I would use that.  Any suggestions?  

Just go with the n-word.

It's completely consistent with your lack of character.

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