The new Iraq chaos is all about religion ...

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Some people worship the military as god's chosen hand of wrath.

Guess those folks ain't got much of a god...mine can do his own evil doer elimination..fact is he told me vengeance was his and thou shalt not kill...

Actually the original Hebrew translates as 'Thou shalt not murder'.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnNAGLAc_w

  

This is true but since when has our military been opposed to murder ?



mur·der
noun
1.
Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder)  and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder)
2.
Slang. something extremely difficult or perilous: That final exam was murder!
3.
a group or flock of crows.
verb (used with object)
4.
Law. to kill by an act constituting murder.
5.
to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.

Sal wrote:The American people have no interest in enforcing artificial borders in the Middle East. 

Damaged Eagle wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Some people worship the military as god's chosen hand of wrath.

Guess those folks ain't got much of a god...mine can do his own evil doer elimination..fact is he told me vengeance was his and thou shalt not kill...

Actually the original Hebrew translates as 'Thou shalt not murder'.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnNAGLAc_w

  

This is true but since when has our military been opposed to murder ?



mur·der
noun
1.
Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder)  and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder)
2.
Slang. something extremely difficult or perilous: That final exam was murder!
3.
a group or flock of crows.
verb (used with object)
4.
Law. to kill by an act constituting murder.
5.
to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.

Not all military members would follow orders that would lead to that Teo and to label all military members as such is a disservice to them.

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Bob wrote:Yes of course religion and religious beliefs and religious intolerance are at the heart of it.
The main source of conflict in the middle east has always been and still is the conflict between the two religious denominations of Islam.
It goes all the way back to the year 632 when Muhammad died.  The two denominations (sunni and shia) have always been in a never ending dispute over which was the legitimate successor to Muhammad.
And that dispute has been fought over ever since.

The center of the shia sect is in Iran.  The center of the sunnis is in Saudi Arabia.
Sunnis are by far and away the largest of the two sects.  Almost 90% of the world's Muslims are Sunni and a little over 10% are Shia.  

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In Iraq that population statistic is in reverse and having lost their stronghold on power in Iraq with Saddam's downfall and the Shia getting more representative power in their government, the pendulum of violence which we had pretty much shut down with the surge has swung back to the Sunnis.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Bob wrote:Yes of course religion and religious beliefs and religious intolerance are at the heart of it.
The main source of conflict in the middle east has always been and still is the conflict between the two religious denominations of Islam.
It goes all the way back to the year 632 when Muhammad died.  The two denominations (sunni and shia) have always been in a never ending dispute over which was the legitimate successor to Muhammad.
And that dispute has been fought over ever since.

The center of the shia sect is in Iran.  The center of the sunnis is in Saudi Arabia.
Sunnis are by far and away the largest of the two sects.  Almost 90% of the world's Muslims are Sunni and a little over 10% are Shia.  

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In Iraq that population statistic is in reverse and having lost their stronghold on power in Iraq with Saddam's downfall and the Shia getting more representative power in their government, the pendulum of violence which we had pretty much shut down with the surge has swung back to the Sunnis.