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Obama's race to chaos

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1Obama's race to chaos Empty Obama's race to chaos 3/29/2015, 11:31 pm

KarlRove

KarlRove

http://nypost.com/2015/03/28/obamas-race-to-chaos/

If you’re confused about the Saudi Arabia-led air attacks against Islamist rebels in Yemen and can’t tell one group of head-choppers in Iraq and Syria from another, don’t despair. All you need is imagination.

Close your eyes and imagine that those countries and terrorists have nuclear weapons. Imagine their barbarism going nuclear as they blow up cities, wipe out ethnic and religious groups and turn the region into cinders.

Now open your eyes and realize you’ve seen the future, thanks to President Obama’s policies. It is a future that will be defined by Obama’s Wars. Yes, plural.

I’ve written frequently about the likelihood of a dystopian “Mad Max” scenario if Iran gets nukes. My thinking is guided by a belief among American military and intelligence officials
that a nuclear exchange would take place in the Mideast within five years of Iran getting the bomb. To judge from events, the future is arriving ahead of schedule.

The fact that a top Saudi official wouldn’t answer a question about the kingdom’s plan to get nukes is an answer in itself. Proliferation in the world’s hottest spot was guaranteed once Obama abdicated American leadership, a decision that led our adversaries to conclude we would not stop them and our allies to conclude we would not protect them.

A future where it would be every nation for itself was trouble enough, but something far worse is unfolding now. Obama’s courtship of Iran and his willingness to let it go nuclear is speeding up the race to chaos.

Iran wants it both ways — nukes and a free hand to impose its Islamic Revolution throughout the region. Against all good sense and the lessons of history, Obama is saying yes and yes.

Sightings of the Revolutionary Guard leader, Maj. Gen. Qasem Suleimani, leading Iranian-sponsored militias against Islamic State in Iraq has spread alarm throughout the region. The fears reached a fever pitch when Iranian-allied Houthi rebels took over Yemen, chasing out our soldiers and allies with chants of “Death to America, death to Israel.”

Iran long held designs on a Shia Crescent and control over Arab lands, which helps explain why Egypt, Saudi Arabia and others counted themselves as our allies. They are furious as they watch Iran get a nuclear pass from Obama and a green light to expand its power.

The nuclear program will have the United Nations stamp of approval, as will Iranian control of four Arab capitals — Damascus, Beirut, Baghdad and now Sanaa, Yemen. Indeed, Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry suggest Iran even could be an ally in the fight against Islamic State and al Qaeda. Already there has been coordination there, leading critics to say America is acting as the Iranian air force.

Israel, of course, sees the pattern as insane and a threat because Iran has threatened to wipe it off the face of the earth. In retaliation for complaining about the nuke deal, Obama denounces our ally and threatens to “re-evaluate” our support for the Jewish state.

But Israel is not alone, with our Sunni Arab allies also viewing Iran as their mortal enemy. Sen. John McCain quoted one of those Arab leaders as concluding, “We believe it is more dangerous to be a friend of America’s than an enemy.”

These are unprecedented developments, veering so far from the norm and happening so fast that consequences are piling up faster than they can be comprehended. Alliances built over decades are shattered in a relative flash, inviting aggression and endless conflict. The toxic brew of Islamic fanaticism and nuclear proliferation could ignite a world conflagration.

These are grim thoughts, expressed because it is impossible to imagine any other outcome of Iran’s rise. It remains the world’s largest sponsor of terrorism and supports Hezbollah and Hamas and now the Houthis in Yemen. As for Iranian influence in Iraq, one analyst is calling Suleimani, the Revolutionary Guard commander, Iraq’s new “viceroy.”

Remember, too, Iran muscle and munitions are keeping Bashar Assad still standing in Syria. The wholesale death and destruction there — an estimated 200,000 people killed and millions displaced within the country and out of it — could be a prototype of its new empire.

While there are many dark and complex forces in play and blame to spread around, the most important catalyst of the violent disorder has been the reversal of America’s policies. Under Obama, we have switched sides, an abomination that ensures a legacy of infamy.

2Obama's race to chaos Empty Re: Obama's race to chaos 3/30/2015, 12:20 am

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

...Under Obama, we have switched sides, an abomination that ensures a legacy of infamy....

Yes, Obama has given the big finger to Bibi and Israel, and is now supporting his Muslim brothers....

I bet you would support a coup de 'etat on Obama, if one could be arranged. Or, a simple assassination. It worked with JFK, didn't it?

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3Obama's race to chaos Empty Re: Obama's race to chaos 3/30/2015, 1:42 am

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:...Under Obama, we have switched sides, an abomination that ensures a legacy of infamy....

Yes, Obama has given the big finger to Bibi and Israel, and is now supporting his Muslim brothers....

I bet you would support a coup de 'etat on Obama, if one could be arranged. Or, a simple assassination. It worked with JFK, didn't it?

I have no desire for harm to come so our semi-retired President. Each night I pray for the well being of President Obama and our other leaders.

I do hate what he has done to our country and to our reputation around the world.

4Obama's race to chaos Empty Re: Obama's race to chaos 3/30/2015, 8:22 am

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I do hate what he has done to our country and to our reputation around the world.


Our reputation as an unthinking exploiter who is quick to use war as a means to protect the Oligarch's continued exploitations of the people of a particular country......the new colonialism hedged under cut phrases of the "exporter of democracy" as we kill 100K Iraq citizens.......no it would be awful if our reputation became one of rationality and diplomacy.

Saudi Arabia who financially backed Al Queda and has this strange alliance with Israel now becomes this noble ally who is threatened by Iran when lo and behold it is Saudi Arabia who has been the financial backer of ISIS.......as some try to twist reality to put a smile on MIC and send American kids into harms way. President Obama is the first of many Presidents who have had their fill of being dictated to by Israel......and Saudi Arabia........Our allies are celebrating rationality and pragmatism as we join the international community in seeking lasting peace in the region, and are not simply a colony of Israel. Good friends do not expect us to send our children into harms way so that their children do not have to bear the burden of their policies.....while we protect Saudi Arabia also, only to have them fund the very terrorists who attacked on 911......with friends like that who needs enemies.

5Obama's race to chaos Empty Re: Obama's race to chaos 3/30/2015, 9:00 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:...Under Obama, we have switched sides, an abomination that ensures a legacy of infamy....

Yes, Obama has given the big finger to Bibi and Israel, and is now supporting his Muslim brothers....

I bet you would support a coup de 'etat on Obama, if one could be arranged. Or, a simple assassination. It worked with JFK, didn't it?

I have no desire for harm to come so our semi-retired President.  Each night I pray for the well being of President Obama and our other leaders.

I do hate what he has done to our country and to our reputation around the world.

You're a Christian like Hitler was a Christian. And NO ONE destroyed our reputation and our moral integrity with the rest of the world like BUSH.

6Obama's race to chaos Empty Re: Obama's race to chaos 3/30/2015, 10:16 am

KarlRove

KarlRove

Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:...Under Obama, we have switched sides, an abomination that ensures a legacy of infamy....

Yes, Obama has given the big finger to Bibi and Israel, and is now supporting his Muslim brothers....

I bet you would support a coup de 'etat on Obama, if one could be arranged. Or, a simple assassination. It worked with JFK, didn't it?

I have no desire for harm to come so our semi-retired President.  Each night I pray for the well being of President Obama and our other leaders.

I do hate what he has done to our country and to our reputation around the world.

You're a Christian like Hitler was a Christian. And NO ONE destroyed our reputation and our moral integrity with the rest of the world like BUSH.

World leaders trusted Bush. Nobody trusts Obama.

7Obama's race to chaos Empty Re: Obama's race to chaos 3/30/2015, 10:58 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan



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http://www.pewglobal.org/2008/12/18/global-public-opinion-in-the-bush-years-2001-2008/

[...]

"America’s Image Gap

Mounting discontent with U.S. foreign policy over the last eight years has translated into a concern about American power. In the view of much of the world, the United States has played the role of bully in the school yard, throwing its weight around with little regard for others’ interests.

America won a measure of global sympathy after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, but the inaugural Pew Global Attitudes survey showed that by spring 2002 favorability ratings for the U.S. had already dropped in many countries since the start of the decade. Surveys conducted after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 found further declines. Positive views of the United States declined in 26 of the 33 countries where the question was posed in both 2002 and 2007.

Respondents to the 2006 survey in 13 of 15 countries found the American presence in Iraq to be an equal or greater danger to stability in the Middle East than the regime of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, while 11 judged it a threat to Middle East stability greater than or equal to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

And while the U.S.-led war on terrorism initially drew strong support among U.S. allies in Europe, in recent years world attitudes toward America’s military operations in Afghanistan have turned increasingly negative. Now in recent surveys, majorities in nearly all countries think it’s time for America to withdraw from both Iraq and Afghanistan..."



8Obama's race to chaos Empty Re: Obama's race to chaos 3/30/2015, 12:01 pm

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

KarlRove wrote:World leaders trusted Bush. Nobody trusts Obama.

Ask Angela Merkel if she liked Bush rubbing her shoulders at the G-8 meeting in 2006......
Embarassed

Obama's race to chaos Bush_merkel_small

They didn't respect Bush more than they do Obama. That is just a figment of your imagination.

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