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knothead wrote: ill make a good guess too that they are democrats.

Chrissy, I think you are making an irrational assumption.  It was probably made as a simple dig but the truth, I believe, would be the demographic you describe most likely couldn't even name a single prominent political figure from either party.  

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I'm with Chrissy on this one. If the atheists and supposedly enlightened progressive liberals want to paint all religions with broad brush strokes then the gang bangers are all Democrats and they're most definitely part of the Occupy Movement 99%... just like the anarchists are too.

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Damaged Eagle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
...Atheists don't murder people. Christians, Muslims, Jews and other fundamentalists do.  Jim Jones, David Koresh, the Mormons in the late 1800s, the Kurds vs. the Sunnis vs. the Shiites ... etc. etc. etc.

Atheists have no history of murdering off people for what they believe.  You can't say the same.

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Except for Soviet Russia and their...

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Really? Just what religious groups were murdered by the Soviets?

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militant atheism served as the official doctrine of the state.[1] It has been estimated that in less than the past 100 years, governments under the banner of communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 to 259,432,000 human lives.[2][3][4][5][6][7] Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.[8] Richard Dawkins has attempted to engage in historical revisionism concerning atheist atrocities and Dawkins was shown to be in gross error (see also: Atheism and communism and Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union).

Although Communism is one of the most well-known cases of atheism's ties to mass murder, the French Revolution and subsequent Reign of Terror, inspired by the works of Diderot, Voltaire, Sade, and Rousseau, managed to commit similar persecutions and exterminations of religious people and promote secularism and militant atheism.

Koukl summarized by stating:
“ It is true that it's possible that religion can produce evil, and generally when we look closer at the detail it produces evil because the individual people are actually living in a rejection of the tenets of Christianity and a rejection of the God that they are supposed to be following. So it can produce it, but the historical fact is that outright rejection of God and institutionalizing of atheism actually does produce evil on incredible levels. We're talking about tens of millions of people as a result of the rejection of God.[1]


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Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was asked to account for the great tragedies that occurred under the brutal communist regime he and fellow citizens suffered under.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn offered the following explanation:
“ Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: 'Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.'

Since then I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: 'Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.' [9]


Vox Day notes concerning atheism and mass murder:
“ Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism … .there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal162 acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao …

The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.

The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.

Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation![10]



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Dot wrote:oh one more thing word.

when a Christian gives something there IS NOT ALWAYS a string attached. That would be the GOV your talking about.


What's your point here? That Christians are more concerned about others than Athiests, Muslims, Jews, etc.?? Are you saying that because Christians fund some charities, that makes up for the inquisition, the crusades, and the "Irish Troubles." for example? Or Sand Creek, Wounded Knee and dozens of other slaughtering massacres of Native Americans by good Christian troopers, clearing the wilderness of savages for Jesus and white civilization?

One more thing: I don't target Christians only, I dislike ALL religious groups because of the conflicts they generate. Every major religious claims that it's the true way and everyone else is wrong. Utter bullshit, of course.

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was asked to account for the great tragedies that occurred under the brutal communist regime he and fellow citizens suffered under.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn offered the following explanation:
“ Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: 'Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.'

Since then I have spend well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: 'Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.' [9]


Vox Day notes concerning atheism and mass murder:
“ Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism … .there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal162 acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao …

The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.

The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.

Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation![10]

I was refuting Damaged Eagles claim that communists murdered people for their religious beliefs.

And, in fact, as far as I know, the atheists of the former Soviet Union did not murder anyone for their religious beliefs, but for political reasons.

Besides for the purposes of this thread I was speaking of American atheists, not Soviet. By the way, most of Russia wasn't atheist, even under Stalin.

And in modern Russia, the Russian Orthodox Religion is quite powerful.

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Wordslinger wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
...Atheists don't murder people. Christians, Muslims, Jews and other fundamentalists do.  Jim Jones, David Koresh, the Mormons in the late 1800s, the Kurds vs. the Sunnis vs. the Shiites ... etc. etc. etc.

Atheists have no history of murdering off people for what they believe.  You can't say the same.



Except for Soviet Russia and their...

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Really?  Just what religious groups were murdered by the Soviets?

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The better question would be... Which religious groups weren't murdered by the Soviets?

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Damaged Eagle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:All religion is just a state of mind. It's not reality but if you need it to cope then I don't have any problem w/ it. Some people use drugs. Others use God. Just don't depend on it to survive.

I'm not sure, but maybe it was Marx or maybe Lennon who said "religion is the opiate of the people."  Which agrees entirely with what you wrote.   But I do have a problem with peoples' religions that are cruel, harmful and hurtful ... to anyone -- for any bizarre reason.  

And, come to think of it, isn't that every religion?  Show me a religion that doesn't project hate or discrimination against somebody.

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So the Amish go out of their way to be cruel, harmful, and hurtful?

Wow!!!!! I didn't know that..... Maybe we should make them pay for their transgressions.

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Neither the Amish or the Mennonites are welcoming or friendly to outsiders. Reality.
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Argue with a Nobel Prize winner that singlehandedly brought down a corrupt Government !

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn offered the following explanation:
“ Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: 'Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.'

.......But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: 'Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.'

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Vox Day notes concerning atheism and mass murder:
“ Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism … .there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal162 acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao …

The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.


The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition.
It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.

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Wordslinger wrote:

I was refuting Damaged Eagles claim that communists murdered people for their religious beliefs.

And, in fact, as far as I know, the atheists of the former Soviet Union did not murder anyone for their religious beliefs, but for political reasons.  

Besides for the purposes of this thread I was speaking of American atheists, not Soviet.  By the way, most of Russia wasn't atheist, even under Stalin.

And in modern Russia, the Russian Orthodox Religion is quite powerful.

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Your assertion was that atheists do not murder people... (wholesale)... for what they believe.

Therefore it doesn't matter whether atheist Soviet Russia was murdering people for their religious or their political beliefs.

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Wordslinger wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:All religion is just a state of mind. It's not reality but if you need it to cope then I don't have any problem w/ it. Some people use drugs. Others use God. Just don't depend on it to survive.

I'm not sure, but maybe it was Marx or maybe Lennon who said "religion is the opiate of the people."  Which agrees entirely with what you wrote.   But I do have a problem with peoples' religions that are cruel, harmful and hurtful ... to anyone -- for any bizarre reason.  

And, come to think of it, isn't that every religion?  Show me a religion that doesn't project hate or discrimination against somebody.



So the Amish go out of their way to be cruel, harmful, and hurtful?

Wow!!!!! I didn't know that..... Maybe we should make them pay for their transgressions.

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Neither the Amish or the Mennonites are welcoming or friendly to outsiders.  Reality.

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And you're just so welcoming yourself.

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...NOT!!!!! Reality!

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Wordslinger wrote:
Dot wrote:oh one more thing word.

when a Christian gives something there IS NOT ALWAYS a string attached. That would be the GOV your talking about.


What's your point here?  That Christians are more concerned about others than Athiests, Muslims, Jews, etc.??  Are you saying that because Christians fund some charities, that makes up for the inquisition, the crusades, and the "Irish Troubles." for example?  Or Sand Creek, Wounded Knee and dozens of other slaughtering massacres of Native Americans by good Christian troopers, clearing the wilderness of savages for Jesus and white civilization?

One more thing: I don't target Christians only, I dislike ALL religious groups because of the conflicts they generate.  Every major religious claims that it's the true way and everyone else is wrong.  Utter bullshit, of course.

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If this isn't a Christian... or any other sort of religious nation... then all those massacres committed in the name of the United States were committed solely in the name of atheism.

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From what I've observed, the Christian religion has largely been hijacked by various interest groups and is twisted to accommodate their particular agenda. I have noticed for years that a person needs to look at Christianity outside of all the current cultural overlays that have been grafted on to it. This is of course impossible since we all grew up in a culture, most of us in the American one.

It should be clear to anyone reading the New Testament for the first time,  that something has gone very much awry.

Here we read about Jesus speaking many times about the need to take care of the poor and each other, to not be concerned with worldly goods and so on. Yet our modern culture, which some here claims to be largely Christian, glorifies the accumulation of money, applauds the rich as the successful ones, loves (apparently) going to war, bombing people, etc.

Some here may claim that since Jesus told his followers to take care of the poor that this means the church(es) should be the instruments of charity; but I ask this question: If the goal is to take care of the poor and the government (remember now, the government is not some intergalactic alien entity but a reflection of our civil union) that it should make no difference to Christians if the poor are being helped by churches or by the government.

I'm pointing out that just over the history of this country we can see many instances of policies that were put into place through our laws that were supposed to be grounded in Christian beliefs but, well, didn't work out so well. I offer prohibition as an example.

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othershoe1030 wrote:From what I've observed, the Christian religion has largely been hijacked by various interest groups and is twisted to accommodate their particular agenda. I have noticed for years that a person needs to look at Christianity outside of all the current cultural overlays that have been grafted on to it. This is of course impossible since we all grew up in a culture, most of us in the American one.

It should be clear to anyone reading the New Testament for the first time,  that something has gone very much awry.

Here we read about Jesus speaking many times about the need to take care of the poor and each other, to not be concerned with worldly goods and so on. Yet our modern culture, which some here claims to be largely Christian, glorifies the accumulation of money, applauds the rich as the successful ones, loves (apparently) going to war, bombing people, etc.

Some here may claim that since Jesus told his followers to take care of the poor that this means the church(es) should be the instruments of charity; but I ask this question: If the goal is to take care of the poor and the government (remember now, the government is not some intergalactic alien entity but a reflection of our civil union) that it should make no difference to Christians if the poor are being helped by churches or by the government.

I'm pointing out that just over the history of this country we can see many instances of policies that were put into place through our laws that were supposed to be grounded in Christian beliefs but, well, didn't work out so well. I offer prohibition as an example.

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Taking from others at the point of a government sword to ease your conscience is not charity darlin'. I believe the Christians have a commandment that falls under which is called coveting thy neighbors goods and how you shouldn't there darlin'...

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No one took anything from anyone at the point of a gun. We live in a representative democracy and (I guess you are referring to taxes?)it has all been voted on one way or another. So you can just start organizing your supporters, running your candidates and change things if it is that important to you.

It seems to me that some conservative "Christian" groups are more than happy to have the government be an arm of their beliefs via anti-abortion laws, cutting back on food stamps, etc.

So why aren't they behind the government being an extension of their views when it comes to taking care of the poor? You would think that would be a top priority given what Jesus said about giving and taking care of the less fortunate. If it works in one instance it should work in the other. But that would require consistency.  

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Damaged Eagle wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:From what I've observed, the Christian religion has largely been hijacked by various interest groups and is twisted to accommodate their particular agenda. I have noticed for years that a person needs to look at Christianity outside of all the current cultural overlays that have been grafted on to it. This is of course impossible since we all grew up in a culture, most of us in the American one.

It should be clear to anyone reading the New Testament for the first time,  that something has gone very much awry.

Here we read about Jesus speaking many times about the need to take care of the poor and each other, to not be concerned with worldly goods and so on. Yet our modern culture, which some here claims to be largely Christian, glorifies the accumulation of money, applauds the rich as the successful ones, loves (apparently) going to war, bombing people, etc.

Some here may claim that since Jesus told his followers to take care of the poor that this means the church(es) should be the instruments of charity; but I ask this question: If the goal is to take care of the poor and the government (remember now, the government is not some intergalactic alien entity but a reflection of our civil union) that it should make no difference to Christians if the poor are being helped by churches or by the government.

I'm pointing out that just over the history of this country we can see many instances of policies that were put into place through our laws that were supposed to be grounded in Christian beliefs but, well, didn't work out so well. I offer prohibition as an example.

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Taking from others at the point of a government sword to ease your conscience is not charity darlin'. I believe the Christians have a commandment that falls under which is called coveting thy neighbors goods and how you shouldn't there darlin'...

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Religion is a cover.

I tire of "Christians" who do not have one free thought on their spiritual walk. Everyone puts a label on their belief either by bible verse, what a pastor teaches or what a denomination teaches. The possibility of free thinking and questions is shot down and you are out of the clique. The same could be said of any other of the major world religions. Again...it's all a cover.

Same way with political parties.

We are such a cliquish breed. And we always think our clique is better, more upstanding and moral, more caring and considerate and all the other cliques are immoral.

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othershoe1030 wrote:No one took anything from anyone at the point of a gun. We live in a representative democracy and (I guess you are referring to taxes?)it has all been voted on one way or another. So you can just start organizing your supporters, running your candidates and change things if it is that important to you.

It seems to me that some conservative "Christian" groups are more than happy to have the government be an arm of their beliefs via anti-abortion laws, cutting back on food stamps, etc.

So why aren't they behind the government being an extension of their views when it comes to taking care of the poor? You would think that would be a top priority given what Jesus said about giving and taking care of the less fortunate. If it works in one instance it should work in the other. But that would require consistency.  


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Is it taking care of the poor or lining your and their pockets with money from the government coffers that you're worried about darlin'?

The poor can waive their rights away if they want to have someone take care of them instead of bitching how they need more. I have no problem with putting them in forty man/woman bunkrooms with loss of privileges if they need someone to wipe their nose and change their diapers for them. With you wiping their noses and changing their diapers at minimum wage.

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All government is satanic and full of all manner of greed. God isn't messing up your stupid little atheist lives satan is . Quit blaming God will ya. He has had almost nothing to do with America for a hundred years, you think God is going to bless a country that has murdered 58million children ?..Not likely and even 99% of socalled christians really worship satan or Isis the sun, Ra or whatever but certainly not God. God is life and guess what you are all dead....and there is no life in you.

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:All government is satanic and full of all manner of greed. God isn't messing up your  stupid little atheist lives satan is . Quit blaming God will ya. He has had almost nothing to do with America for a hundred years, you think God is going to bless a country that has murdered 58million children ?..Not likely and even 99% of socalled christians really worship satan or Isis the sun, Ra or whatever but certainly not God. God is life and guess what you are all dead....and there is no life in you.

It was Satan who killed all the first borns and ordered pestilence and disease and messed up Job , huh? It is your God who allows little children to be raped, murdered and maimed. Your God who who lets little children suffer horrible diseases and does nothing. Give me a break, Teo. You're God allowed it when he could have stopped it, right. You people are something else.

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Dreamsglore wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:All government is satanic and full of all manner of greed. God isn't messing up your  stupid little atheist lives satan is . Quit blaming God will ya. He has had almost nothing to do with America for a hundred years, you think God is going to bless a country that has murdered 58million children ?..Not likely and even 99% of socalled christians really worship satan or Isis the sun, Ra or whatever but certainly not God. God is life and guess what you are all dead....and there is no life in you.

It was Satan who killed all the first borns and ordered pestilence and disease and messed up Job , huh? It is your God who allows little children to be raped, murdered and maimed. Your God who who lets little children suffer horrible diseases and does nothing. Give me a break, Teo. You're God allowed it when he could have stopped it, right. You people are something else.

Did satan tell you that or are you your own god?... Job was blessed and received back double of all he lost so what's your point ?..All things belong to God..he does what he wants and that pisses off you Satanists doesn't it.

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SheWrites wrote:Religion is a cover.

I tire of "Christians" who do not have one free thought on their spiritual walk.  Everyone puts a label on their belief either by bible verse, what a pastor teaches or what a denomination teaches.  The possibility of free thinking and questions is shot down and you are out of the clique.  The same could be said of any other of the major world religions.  Again...it's all a cover.

Same way with political parties.

We are such a cliquish breed.  And we always think our clique is better, more upstanding and moral, more caring and considerate and all the other cliques are immoral.


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Yet you set out here to define yourself as part of a clique that is supposedly better than the others sweetcakes...

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:All government is satanic and full of all manner of greed. God isn't messing up your  stupid little atheist lives satan is . Quit blaming God will ya. He has had almost nothing to do with America for a hundred years, you think God is going to bless a country that has murdered 58million children ?..Not likely and even 99% of socalled christians really worship satan or Isis the sun, Ra or whatever but certainly not God. God is life and guess what you are all dead....and there is no life in you.

It was Satan who killed all the first borns and ordered pestilence and disease and messed up Job , huh? It is your God who allows little children to be raped, murdered and maimed. Your God who who lets little children suffer horrible diseases and does nothing. Give me a break, Teo. You're God allowed it when he could have stopped it, right. You people are something else.



Did satan tell you that or are you your own god?... Job was blessed and received back double of all he lost so what's your point ?..All things belong to God..he does what he wants and that pisses off you Satanists doesn't it.

No, the bible told me that and you can keep your God that kills little children and makes them suffer.You then have the nerve to blame it on the govt. Yes, it pisses me off you have this horrible God that can prevent all this but chooses to let people suffer. There is no goddamn Satan. If there is a God he condones and allows all this bullshit and there's no way around it.

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If God were to do every little thing for us and keep us in a perfect world, what point would having faith be? God gave choices( FREEDOMS) and consequences and life in of itself has trials for which we as children of God are required to overcome and prove our faith and trust in the Lord for guidance.

^^^^ this is what I was taught. I believe it. Although I came OUT of the church a long time ago, I still hold my own sincere beliefs which will never be disclosed here.

I can almost understand how most atheist are BIG GOV shills, because that is their form of deity. They want to rectify what's wrong with the world by use of powerful government mandates. Because inside they have no faith in human nature or mankind. So force is the only option for folks like this. They themselves lack the 'commitment" to serving others if their own needs are not over flowing with wealth. Sacrifice is rare amongst people of this nature. To them sacrifice means marching in the streets to obtain a gov mandate to fix a problem, not reaching in their own wallet to solve it.

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