NFL and Bullying

The big news today is that a Dolphin's player quit because he was bullied.

C'mon, get real. The game was designed for 14-year-olds so why is anyone surprised when professional football players show they have the mental level of an over-sexed teenager?

Professional football players live in their own fantasy world . . and if and when any of them grow-up, they are cut loose to try and make their way in a world that doesn't worship jockstrap sweat. The facts are, most former NFL players never make the adjustment to the real world that we all share. They drink or drug themselves to death, their divorce rates are phenomenally high, and like many of today's warriors, their suicide rates continue to climb.

Reality.

Even more pathetic are the fans that worship them and identify with them like it's important or something...

The person who was being bullied was a Stanford educated college graduate. He has unlimited opportunity beyond football, yet rarely does a young person have the opportunity to make the cash that a young football player in the NFL can make. I have reviewed a rookie contract for a kid whose parents we are friends. He was a national honor society A student, who shared athlete of the year with my daughter in their high school.

He played in the NFL, and six years ago he received $375,000 a year and received a three year contract......a million dollars, and I can bet some folks who are making comments about football players being dumb have worked 25 year careers making less than 40k a year and still have not made what this intelligent young man has already made. He is out of the NFL because of injury, but he is currently working a six figure job.

I always found it amusing that those who failed in so many areas of their life try to project the lack of intelligence across the board to a particular group. Needless to say, I think my experience around athletes are that they are on average more intelligent than non team playing people. I also have found in my experience that people who do not drink, and do not follow sports are usually very insecure and have serious emotional problems. Now I am not talking about a person who has drank and now chooses not to, rather people who simple never drank, or never found any pleasure in watching team sports, racing, or other forms of competition.....sadly I have found that it reminds them of their inadequacies. Most of the well adjusted people on this forum participate in team sports, and notably absent from those discussions are people who are challenged emotionally. Just an observation wordslinger.

Watching sports is like watching Porn. I would rather be participating than watching..

Mr Ichi wrote:Watching sports is like watching Porn.    I would rather be participating  than watching..

Well I never been much on porn due to the fact there is usually some guys junk in the picture. Yes I played all sports even lettered varsity in some but watching it is so boring..Like football, out of 2 hours you get 15 minutes of action....and baseball, zzzzzzzzz.

Well guys, I enjoy watching sports, even golf. I do have to keep my yelling and whistling low key when the windows are open.

Yep, sometimes it just becomes obvious.

Joanimaroni wrote:Well guys,  I enjoy watching sports, even golf. I do have to keep my yelling and whistling low key when the windows are open.

Joani enjoy to your hearts content. I actually understand women liking all those men in tight spandex or whatever...But men naw....It's like Chinese food or this song somebody might like it but not me....

2seaoat wrote:The person who was being bullied was a Stanford educated college graduate.  He has unlimited opportunity beyond football, yet rarely does a young person have the opportunity to make the cash that a young football player in the NFL can make.   I have reviewed a rookie contract for a kid whose parents we are friends.  He was a national honor society A student, who shared athlete of the year with my daughter in their high school.

He played in the NFL, and six years ago he received $375,000 a year and received a three year contract......a million dollars, and I can bet some folks who are making comments about football players being dumb have worked 25 year careers making less than 40k a year and still have not made what this intelligent young man has already made.  He is out of the NFL because of injury, but he is currently working a six figure job.

I always found it amusing that those who failed in so many areas of their life try to project the lack of intelligence across the board to a particular group.  Needless to say, I think my experience around athletes are that they are on average more intelligent than non team playing people.  I also have found in my experience that people who do not drink, and do not follow sports are usually very insecure and have serious emotional problems.   Now I am not talking about a person who has drank and now chooses not to, rather people who simple never drank, or never found any pleasure in watching team sports, racing, or other forms of competition.....sadly I have found that it reminds them of their inadequacies.   Most of the well adjusted people on this forum participate in team sports, and notably absent from those discussions are people who are challenged emotionally.   Just an observation wordslinger.

What in hell supports your claim that most of the well adjusted people on this forum participate in team sports? Get real. Team sports are for children, and the people who love to watch them. LOL

Wordslinger wrote:

2seaoat wrote:The person who was being bullied was a Stanford educated college graduate.  He has unlimited opportunity beyond football, yet rarely does a young person have the opportunity to make the cash that a young football player in the NFL can make.   I have reviewed a rookie contract for a kid whose parents we are friends.  He was a national honor society A student, who shared athlete of the year with my daughter in their high school.

He played in the NFL, and six years ago he received $375,000 a year and received a three year contract......a million dollars, and I can bet some folks who are making comments about football players being dumb have worked 25 year careers making less than 40k a year and still have not made what this intelligent young man has already made.  He is out of the NFL because of injury, but he is currently working a six figure job.

I always found it amusing that those who failed in so many areas of their life try to project the lack of intelligence across the board to a particular group.  Needless to say, I think my experience around athletes are that they are on average more intelligent than non team playing people.  I also have found in my experience that people who do not drink, and do not follow sports are usually very insecure and have serious emotional problems.   Now I am not talking about a person who has drank and now chooses not to, rather people who simple never drank, or never found any pleasure in watching team sports, racing, or other forms of competition.....sadly I have found that it reminds them of their inadequacies.   Most of the well adjusted people on this forum participate in team sports, and notably absent from those discussions are people who are challenged emotionally.   Just an observation wordslinger.

What in hell supports your claim that most of the well adjusted people on this forum participate in team sports?  Get real.  Team sports are for children, and the people who love to watch them.    LOL

It's just another not so subtle jibe at me. I am the reason he gets up in the morning. I am his purpose in life. He analyses me like he would a football team or a poker player. I give his life purpose like I am some masterful Moriarty to him, as he is my rather dense Sherlock. I give meaning to his small world...It is okay, for all he does must loft me up to make him clever.


'He [Moriarty] is the Napoleon of crime, Watson. He is the organizer of half that is evil and nearly all that is undetected in this great city.  He is a genius, a philosopher, an abstract thinker.  He has a brain of the first order.'

Sherlock Holmes Quote

2seaoat wrote:The person who was being bullied was a Stanford educated college graduate.  He has unlimited opportunity beyond football, yet rarely does a young person have the opportunity to make the cash that a young football player in the NFL can make.   I have reviewed a rookie contract for a kid whose parents we are friends.  He was a national honor society A student, who shared athlete of the year with my daughter in their high school.

He played in the NFL, and six years ago he received $375,000 a year and received a three year contract......a million dollars, and I can bet some folks who are making comments about football players being dumb have worked 25 year careers making less than 40k a year and still have not made what this intelligent young man has already made.  He is out of the NFL because of injury, but he is currently working a six figure job.


I always found it amusing that those who failed in so many areas of their life try to project the lack of intelligence across the board to a particular group.  Needless to say, I think my experience around athletes are that they are on average more intelligent than non team playing people.  I also have found in my experience that people who do not drink, and do not follow sports are usually very insecure and have serious emotional problems.   Now I am not talking about a person who has drank and now chooses not to, rather people who simple never drank, or never found any pleasure in watching team sports, racing, or other forms of competition.....sadly I have found that it reminds them of their inadequacies.   Most of the well adjusted people on this forum participate in team sports, and notably absent from those discussions are people who are challenged emotionally.   Just an observation wordslinger.

The perfect example of the mental capacities of NFL players is the fact that the bullying went on for months and NOBODY did any thing to complain or stop it. Face it Seaoat, your perception that team sport players are intelligent goes right along with thinking that playing poker is important . . . Just an observation . . .

Wordslinger wrote:

2seaoat wrote:The person who was being bullied was a Stanford educated college graduate.  He has unlimited opportunity beyond football, yet rarely does a young person have the opportunity to make the cash that a young football player in the NFL can make.   I have reviewed a rookie contract for a kid whose parents we are friends.  He was a national honor society A student, who shared athlete of the year with my daughter in their high school.

He played in the NFL, and six years ago he received $375,000 a year and received a three year contract......a million dollars, and I can bet some folks who are making comments about football players being dumb have worked 25 year careers making less than 40k a year and still have not made what this intelligent young man has already made.  He is out of the NFL because of injury, but he is currently working a six figure job.

I always found it amusing that those who failed in so many areas of their life try to project the lack of intelligence across the board to a particular group.  Needless to say, I think my experience around athletes are that they are on average more intelligent than non team playing people.  I also have found in my experience that people who do not drink, and do not follow sports are usually very insecure and have serious emotional problems.   Now I am not talking about a person who has drank and now chooses not to, rather people who simple never drank, or never found any pleasure in watching team sports, racing, or other forms of competition.....sadly I have found that it reminds them of their inadequacies.   Most of the well adjusted people on this forum participate in team sports, and notably absent from those discussions are people who are challenged emotionally.   Just an observation wordslinger.

What in hell supports your claim that most of the well adjusted people on this forum participate in team sports?  Get real.  Team sports are for children, and the people who love to watch them.    LOL

I play. I am a professional hockey player with all of my front teeth.

I like watching The Amazing Race.  There are teams and the teams are both physically and mentally challenged during the race.

Does this count?  

Oh, also very important....sometimes I might have a glass of wine while watching The Amazing Race.   

Our kids participated in sports when they were in school.  Soccer, swimming, volleyball.  We went to their games and competitions.   When our kids were playing, it was interesting. We cheered them on.  But honestly, the time spent sitting there waiting for our kids to swim or play were mostly pretty dang boring to me.   Especially with swimming.  We'd take an hour long bus ride, each way, and spend all day sitting in a hot gym to watch our daughter swim for 5 minutes.  It was always an exciting 5 minutes though, lol.  I'm glad we did it and I think sports are good for kids but I must say I am glad we're not doing it anymore!

Football is to me a Billionaire paying millionaires in tights to run up and down a field chasing a weird little ball while people cheer and drink beer. Rather watch grass grow. Okay if they had a Cheerleader cam that stayed on the girls I might make it through a game...

Again, I stand by my comment that the forum members who regularly participate in forum threads which involve sports teams fall within the normal range on this forum. Those that do not participate seem to be missing things both intellectually and emotionally. I find people who find no pleasure in outside stimulation often to be deeply depressed. Sadly, there are fewer and fewer things which give them pleasure. There are many people on this forum who suffer from some form of depression, and those individuals over the years have the least propensity to find pleasure in a movie, a tv show, a sporting event, or a night out socially drinking with friends, or a simple book. Yes, as a poker player I read people. Sometimes I am wrong, but over times my skills in regard to the same have improved.

T if you post your balanced and intelligent threads which we both know you are quite capable, I do not even give you a thought and share your intelligence. However, when you post your filth, you have my attention. It is that simple. Like Chrissy, if posting filth is a cry for help, I am simply not qualified to help you or Chrissy. However, the filth remains, and whether it is five threads implying the inferiority of black people, or dehumanizing a TSA worker, it is coordinated and deeply disturbed.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Football is to me a Billionaire paying millionaires in tights to run up and down a field chasing a weird little ball while people cheer and drink beer. Rather watch grass grow. Okay if they had a Cheerleader cam that stayed on the girls I might make it through a game...

LOL.  That could be my husband's words.  But my husband also would rather watch grass grow than be a member of a chat forum.

Nekochan wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Football is to me a Billionaire paying millionaires in tights to run up and down a field chasing a weird little ball while people cheer and drink beer. Rather watch grass grow. Okay if they had a Cheerleader cam that stayed on the girls I might make it through a game...

LOL.  That could be my husband's words.  But my husband also would rather watch grass grow than be a member of a chat forum.

Well this is entertainment for some. It's also a vent for others. Serves some purpose or we wouldn't be here....like football.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Football is to me a Billionaire paying millionaires in tights to run up and down a field chasing a weird little ball while people cheer and drink beer. Rather watch grass grow. Okay if they had a Cheerleader cam that stayed on the girls I might make it through a game...

LOL.  That could be my husband's words.  But my husband also would rather watch grass grow than be a member of a chat forum.

Well this is entertainment for some. It's also a vent for others. Serves some purpose or we wouldn't be here.

Absolutely.  What I find interesting is that someone would think that just because others are not interested in what they are interested in...it makes those other people ill adjusted in life.

Nekochan wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Nekochan wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Football is to me a Billionaire paying millionaires in tights to run up and down a field chasing a weird little ball while people cheer and drink beer. Rather watch grass grow. Okay if they had a Cheerleader cam that stayed on the girls I might make it through a game...

LOL.  That could be my husband's words.  But my husband also would rather watch grass grow than be a member of a chat forum.

Well this is entertainment for some. It's also a vent for others. Serves some purpose or we wouldn't be here.

Absolutely.  What I find interesting is that someone would think that just because others are not interested in what they are interested in...it makes those other people ill adjusted in life.

Exactly. I would find that a poker player, whether good or bad a very poor example of responsible and trustworthy.

Absolutely. What I find interesting is that someone would think that just because others are not interested in what they are interested in...it makes those other people ill adjusted in life.

Loss of interest or pleasure in normal activities,

Feelings of sadness or unhappiness

Feelings of worthlessness or guilt, fixating on past failures or blaming yourself when things aren't going right

For some people, depression symptoms are so severe that it's obvious something isn't right. Other people feel generally miserable or unhappy without really knowing why.

Believe it or not there are objective standards of evaluation of clinical signs of depression, and over the years if you cannot figure out who those people are on this forum as evidenced by their posts, well needless to say it is not that difficult to simply read the words of those suffering from depression on this forum.

I'm not so sure about my sanity while watching sports on TV. My grandkids get a kick out of me screaming, "get in the hole" , run run, get up get up, all while watching a quiet golf game. The 14 month old has plastic golf set....he yells, " get in the hole" after each swing.

Joanimaroni wrote:I'm not so sure about my sanity while watching sports on TV. My grandkids get a kick out of me screaming, "get in the hole" , run run, get up get up, all while watching a quiet golf game. The 14 month old has plastic golf set....he yells, " get in the hole"  after each swing.

Most football fans would poke their eyes out before watching golf...LOL hey whatever rocks your boat... 

Again, I stand by my comment that the forum members who regularly participate in forum threads which involve sports teams fall within the normal range on this forum. Those that do not participate seem to be missing things both intellectually and emotionally. I find people who find no pleasure in outside stimulation often to be deeply depressed. Sadly, there are fewer and fewer things which give them pleasure. There are many people on this forum who suffer from some form of depression, and those individuals over the years have the least propensity to find pleasure in a movie, a tv show, a sporting event, or a night out socially drinking with friends, or a simple book. Yes, as a poker player I read people. Sometimes I am wrong, but over times my skills in regard to the same have improved.

Oats ability to psychoanalyze members of a anonymous forum is nothing short of amazing!!! Not only does he have the knowledge to question your commitment and actions to society, some actions dating back before he was born, he now has achieved the power to probe into the dark regions of your mind.