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It is a bigger tragedy than Boston...


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2seaoat wrote:It is a bigger tragedy than Boston...



But not as Big as Sandy Hook.. But hey libs let abortions happen so what do 20 more kids matter..

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NaNook wrote:When will Obama fly down to comfort the families? Will he invite them to the WhiteHouse? It is a bigger tragedy than Boston...

...........................................

Don't be obtuse.

More people died from gun violence last year in the state of tex than were killed in that explosion.

Is that a bigger "tragedy"...?

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Sal

NaNook wrote:When will Obama fly down to comfort the families? Will he invite them to the WhiteHouse? It is a bigger tragedy than Boston...

Surely, you jest.

This was no tragedy.

This was a miracle of laissez-faire capitalism.

Verily, the Invisible Hand has seen fit to touch this little town.

The peons who inhabit it should be on their knees thanking the ghosts of Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman for this manifestation of our god given liberteez and freedumbz.

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William wrote:
NaNook wrote:When will Obama fly down to comfort the families? Will he invite them to the WhiteHouse? It is a bigger tragedy than Boston...

...........................................

Don't be obtuse.

More people died from gun violence last year in the state of tex than were killed in that explosion.

Is that a bigger "tragedy"...?


Link to that BS?

2seaoat



http://www.statemaster.com/state/TX-texas/cri-crime

11 deaths per 100,000.........

http://www.ipl.org/div/stateknow/popchart.html#statesbypop

25 million.............250 x 11=2,750 average deaths by firearm in Texas per year

I think the non linked comment was correct.

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William wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Sal wrote:
newswatcher wrote:
Were there warnings weeks before that this plant was going to explode?...Were the warnings ignored?....

No ...

... because it hadn't been inspected for over FIVE years.

Idiot.

Add some cuss words and you can be just like WTM.

.................................

You mean like in correct, with an exclamation point...?

Are you saying there actually were inspections over the last 5 years, and now the Obamanistas are covering it up...?

Or are you dodging the issue and baiting me to start another piss fight...?

As for the comparison, you lose again. I'm not in Sal's area code when it comes to raw intelligence...he's a lot smarter than I am.

It's OK. I make up for it by being better looking, and smarter than most of the folk on this forum.

Have a nice day stalker.


Stalker? You again, are not that important. I think you are schizo.

2seaoat



William posted this, and Pace questioned the link.......I looked and 2,750 people a year die on average each year in Texas. That is almost 60 people a week........yet our nation is stunned by the loss of life in Texas and Boston.

We continue to live with blinders on about gun violence. We hope it will not touch our lives, but 60 people a week dying from guns.......you do not have to have a massacre to get one's attention......you need to simply think of one incident where 60 had died......and then do this again and again for each week. Our priorities have simply been hijacked by special interests and common run of the mill propaganda techniques which have people brainwashed that an inherently dangerous item can have no regulations, despite the Supreme Court saying just the opposite.

60 folks a week dying in Texas, and we cannot even agree to check the background of those who want to possess a firearm?

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http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/2012/01/12/causes-of-death

According to the analysis, heart disease (#1) and cancer (#2) remained the top killers and accounted for more than half of the nation's deaths in 2010. The other conditions that rounded out the top 15 list include:

3. Lower respiratory diseases;
4. Stroke and related cerebrovascular diseases;
5. Accidents (unintentional injuries);
6. Alzheimer's disease;
7. Diabetes;
8. Kidney diseases;
9. Influenza and pneumonia;
10. Suicide;
11. Septicemia;
12. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis;
13. Hypertension and related renal disease;
14. Parkinson's disease;
15. Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids.

Sal

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2seaoat wrote:William posted this, and Pace questioned the link.......I looked and 2,750 people a year die on average each year in Texas. That is almost 60 people a week........yet our nation is stunned by the loss of life in Texas and Boston.

We continue to live with blinders on about gun violence. We hope it will not touch our lives, but 60 people a week dying from guns.......you do not have to have a massacre to get one's attention......you need to simply think of one incident where 60 had died......and then do this again and again for each week. Our priorities have simply been hijacked by special interests and common run of the mill propaganda techniques which have people brainwashed that an inherently dangerous item can have no regulations, despite the Supreme Court saying just the opposite.

60 folks a week dying in Texas, and we cannot even agree to check the background of those who want to possess a firearm?

For you, Mr. Oats ...

WASHINGTON — It is an odd day to be looking out at Our Nation's Capital, cherry blossoms lost in the murk and the gloom, from the steps of the Senate side of the Capitol building. It has been an odd week in Our Nation's Capital. It has been a week in which the national government, responding to the will of practically nobody, has determined on its own that our society will tolerate a level of violence that is beyond the reach of the national government to do very much about. Moreover, it has been a week in which, by means subtle and overt, the national government has determined which types of violence our society must tolerate in order to remain the freest country in the world. It has done so quite on its own. It has done so against the expressed will of the vast majority of the people in a country as expressed in the only way they can, now that elections have been determined to have very few real consequences in regard to the levels and types of violence that our society must tolerate in order to remain free. They have told the pollsters, over and over again, because, as far as the violence in America is concerned, the pollsters are the only people listening.

Earlier this week, the report of a nonpartisan commission was released detailing the fact that, in contravention of international treaties freely signed, and in contravention of over 200 years of formal and informal precedent, the United States enthusiastically constructed and ran a regime of torture in the wake of the attacks of Septenber 11, 2001. The 577-page report's description of the violence that the national government committed in the name of its people was quickly devoured by the endless news cycle created by the murderous bombing of the finish line at the Boston Marathon. Then, on Wednesday, as a perfect statement of what the national government of the United States believes that the people of the United States will have to tolerate in order to remain free, the Senate refused even to vote on the diluted Manchin-Toomey compromise on regulating the country's firearms. We congratulate ourselves on our ability to take events like Boston in stride. We congratulate ourselves on recognizing that certain forms of barbarism are intolerable in an advanced democracy. But given a choice truly to take things in stride, to be as indomitable as we say we are, by maintaining our principles in the face of that barbarism, we allow the waterboard and the black site to replace the rule of law, wink at barbarism by memorandum, by legal opinion, by political sophistry.

The bomb goes off and we vow to move heaven and earth to catch the barbarian. We take all the wounds onto ourselves. We bargain for time-shares on Golgotha. We congratulate ourselves on making so measured a choice. Then we go back to slaughtering each other on the streets because that's what we have to tolerate on order to remain free. We are a curious people that way.

I wish I believed it was just all about money. Then Gabrielle Giffords, Michael Bloomberg and the other millionnaires lining up on the other side would have a fighting chance. I wish I believed that it was just all about power, and the threat of losing elections, because then the money now lining up on the other side could even the odds. But I don't believe it is. There is a strong, coherent bloc in this building that believes that a certain level of violence is so inherent in this country that it is shielded absolutely by the Constitution, and that it is so essential to who we are as a people that to try to control it — let alone eliminate it — weakens our national institutions and blights our national character. There is nothing Machiavellian about this. It is what people believe is part of what makes America what it is. It is an essential article of faith. It is unshakable. It is implacable. And it is triumphant.

Make no mistake. That is what was determined down there this week among the bright, white buildings. There is a barbarism in the American soul and we must protect some of it by law. To root it out is to endanger our lives on the one hand, and our liberty on the other. We must tolerate the barbarism of the black sites to stay alive, and we must tolerate the occasional mass shooting in order to maintain our liberty. We will find the barbarian who killed and maimed the people along Boylston Street in Boston because his barbarism was not sanctioned, nor was it sanctified by law. That is the simple basic equation of where we are right now.

Gabrielle Giffords was told this. The families of the children of Newtown were told this. The 91 percent of the American people who want something that they now have no hope of getting were told this, The president of the United States, fairly shaking with impotent anger in the Rose Garden, was told this. We are a violent people. We are an armed people. We are a people intent on permitting mayhem and slaughter. We are a people intent on providing the means for mayhem and slaughter. And because of all of this, we are a free people. It is an odd day to be looking down at Our Nation's Capital, where barbarism has become so tailored and manicured, and so utterly unremarkable. We might as well speak honestly about it. We might as well speak about it here.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/our-violent-country-041813#ixzz2Qqce4RIN

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:
William wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Sal wrote:
newswatcher wrote:
Were there warnings weeks before that this plant was going to explode?...Were the warnings ignored?....

No ...

... because it hadn't been inspected for over FIVE years.

Idiot.

Add some cuss words and you can be just like WTM.

.................................

You mean like in correct, with an exclamation point...?

Are you saying there actually were inspections over the last 5 years, and now the Obamanistas are covering it up...?

Or are you dodging the issue and baiting me to start another piss fight...?

As for the comparison, you lose again. I'm not in Sal's area code when it comes to raw intelligence...he's a lot smarter than I am.

It's OK. I make up for it by being better looking, and smarter than most of the folk on this forum.

Have a nice day stalker.


Stalker? You again, are not that important. I think you are schizo.

...................................

Whatever stalker.

You're justing whining because you attacked me again, and then you were proven wrong....again.





get the frisbee



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PkrBum wrote:http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/2012/01/12/causes-of-death

According to the analysis, heart disease (#1) and cancer (#2) remained the top killers and accounted for more than half of the nation's deaths in 2010. The other conditions that rounded out the top 15 list include:

3. Lower respiratory diseases;
4. Stroke and related cerebrovascular diseases;
5. Accidents (unintentional injuries);
6. Alzheimer's disease;
7. Diabetes;
8. Kidney diseases;
9. Influenza and pneumonia;
10. Suicide;
11. Septicemia;
12. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis;
13. Hypertension and related renal disease;
14. Parkinson's disease;
15. Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids.

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If you're looking for straws to grasp, there's one in the corner. Just paint towards it and you'll find it.



BTW....what % of those suicides involved guns...?

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Who cares? A gun it's just a tool. Gun violence has been declining precipitously for decades... except in a few demographics.

Why wouldn't those people be the target of the outrage and govt solutions?

http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-violence/

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William wrote:
PkrBum wrote:http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/2012/01/12/causes-of-death

According to the analysis, heart disease (#1) and cancer (#2) remained the top killers and accounted for more than half of the nation's deaths in 2010. The other conditions that rounded out the top 15 list include:

3. Lower respiratory diseases;
4. Stroke and related cerebrovascular diseases;
5. Accidents (unintentional injuries);
6. Alzheimer's disease;
7. Diabetes;
8. Kidney diseases;
9. Influenza and pneumonia;
10. Suicide;
11. Septicemia;
12. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis;
13. Hypertension and related renal disease;
14. Parkinson's disease;
15. Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids.

....................................

If you're looking for straws to grasp, there's one in the corner. Just paint towards it and you'll find it.



BTW....what % of those suicides involved guns...?

It's the red herring again..

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PkrBum wrote:Who cares? A gun it's just a tool. Gun violence has been declining precipitously for decades... except in a few demographics.

Why wouldn't those people be the target of the outrage and govt solutions?

http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-violence/

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Calm down cowboy...it's pretty obvious that you don't care, and I doubt anyone will dispute that little nugget of truthiness.

I'll allow you the pleasure of sharing those demographics you wish to target.

2seaoat



Who cares? A gun it's just a tool

I CARE.........AND MORE ARE JOINING ME EVERYDAY!

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Lurch wrote:
William wrote:
PkrBum wrote:http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefing/2012/01/12/causes-of-death

According to the analysis, heart disease (#1) and cancer (#2) remained the top killers and accounted for more than half of the nation's deaths in 2010. The other conditions that rounded out the top 15 list include:

3. Lower respiratory diseases;
4. Stroke and related cerebrovascular diseases;
5. Accidents (unintentional injuries);
6. Alzheimer's disease;
7. Diabetes;
8. Kidney diseases;
9. Influenza and pneumonia;
10. Suicide;
11. Septicemia;
12. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis;
13. Hypertension and related renal disease;
14. Parkinson's disease;
15. Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids.

....................................

If you're looking for straws to grasp, there's one in the corner. Just paint towards it and you'll find it.



BTW....what % of those suicides involved guns...?

It's the red herring again..

bs... the diversion is the thinking that gun control affects criminals, crazies, gangs... which make up the VAST majority of the problem. You read the news... who is committing the crimes? Have you noticed how often gun charges are levied against convicted felons?

I feel the pain that tragedies like newtown bring... but those instances represent a tiny percentage of the problem as it is. Criminals and crazies are not controllable. Look at the bombing... are bombs properly controlled? The red herring is the plaintive cry of the huddled masses and the willingness of the govt to stuff a pacifier in your mouth. See the link I put in above... there is a stark statistical reality. The problem is that a real solution would not be perceived as politically correct. Even those statistics don't address the racial demographics.

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William wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Who cares? A gun it's just a tool. Gun violence has been declining precipitously for decades... except in a few demographics.

Why wouldn't those people be the target of the outrage and govt solutions?

http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-violence/

..........................................

Calm down cowboy...it's pretty obvious that you don't care, and I doubt anyone will dispute that little nugget of truthiness.

I'll allow you the pleasure of sharing those demographics you wish to target.


http://www.npr.org/2013/03/26/175378043/the-epidemiology-of-gun-violence-race-region-and-policy

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Sal

PkrBum wrote:

bs... the diversion is the thinking that gun control affects criminals, crazies, gangs... which make up the VAST majority of the problem. You read the news... who is committing the crimes? Have you noticed how often gun charges are levied against convicted felons?

I feel the pain that tragedies like newtown bring... but those instances represent a tiny percentage of the problem as it is. Criminals and crazies are not controllable. Look at the bombing... are bombs properly controlled? The red herring is the plaintive cry of the huddled masses and the willingness of the govt to stuff a pacifier in your mouth. See the link I put in above... there is a stark statistical reality. The problem is that a real solution would not be perceived as politically correct. Even those statistics don't address the racial demographics.

I love the vapid simplicity of that argument.

You can use it for just about anything.

Habitual speeders do not obey speed limits, only law abiding citizens do so.

Therefore the law is ineffective, ergo there should be no speed limits.

Play along if you like ...

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Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:

bs... the diversion is the thinking that gun control affects criminals, crazies, gangs... which make up the VAST majority of the problem. You read the news... who is committing the crimes? Have you noticed how often gun charges are levied against convicted felons?

I feel the pain that tragedies like newtown bring... but those instances represent a tiny percentage of the problem as it is. Criminals and crazies are not controllable. Look at the bombing... are bombs properly controlled? The red herring is the plaintive cry of the huddled masses and the willingness of the govt to stuff a pacifier in your mouth. See the link I put in above... there is a stark statistical reality. The problem is that a real solution would not be perceived as politically correct. Even those statistics don't address the racial demographics.

I love the vapid simplicity of that argument.

You can use it for just about anything.

Habitual speeders do not obey speed limits, only law abiding citizens do so.

Therefore the law is ineffective, ergo there should be no speed limits.

Play along if you like ...

I read the other day that the leading cause of accidents on interstates are the slow... you should take side streets.

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Sal wrote:
newswatcher wrote:
Good thing that you're not a fool to comment on a situation where lives have been lost

BENGHAZI!!

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Libya.

(Without Congressional approval prior to doing so.)

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXP4tRUuqUY

Smile

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William wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Who's fault is it that the plant hadn't been inspected by govt regulators and what makes y'all think it would've mattered?

Sometimes bad shit happens... I'm sorry to be the one to break that to y'all. Life has an impending risk of death.

............................

That's not the point.

Sometimes the bad shit is prevented from happening because of due diligence.

West Texas Libertarianism on Display - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOXLfY5bKGxK8kPTqKZiQ9jSsh4PfQaaEV5kuX8Lqhvhn58fwM

So you do support things like the Patriot Act and other legislation that allows the government to spy on others without notification.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw

Rolling Eyes

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William wrote:
NaNook wrote:When will Obama fly down to comfort the families? Will he invite them to the WhiteHouse? It is a bigger tragedy than Boston...

...........................................

Don't be obtuse.

More people died from gun violence last year in the state of tex than were killed in that explosion.

Is that a bigger "tragedy"...?


West Texas Libertarianism on Display - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMCX64NdL1WUZyzOthIzmFCQpmfQtCSKPRukVb9FdNkFdg1WQQ8w

Per incident?

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBkTUzKAiXQ

Smile

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2seaoat wrote:http://www.statemaster.com/state/TX-texas/cri-crime

11 deaths per 100,000.........

http://www.ipl.org/div/stateknow/popchart.html#statesbypop

25 million.............250 x 11=2,750 average deaths by firearm in Texas per year

I think the non linked comment was correct.

West Texas Libertarianism on Display - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqcQZxiXzYPtGlGo-3E9Lo_FVJdYsNZjDEmiZ0JJnaUuVNSKAv5g

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBkTUzKAiXQ

Smile

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

William wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:
William wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Sal wrote:
newswatcher wrote:
Were there warnings weeks before that this plant was going to explode?...Were the warnings ignored?....

No ...

... because it hadn't been inspected for over FIVE years.

Idiot.

Add some cuss words and you can be just like WTM.

.................................

You mean like in correct, with an exclamation point...?

Are you saying there actually were inspections over the last 5 years, and now the Obamanistas are covering it up...?

Or are you dodging the issue and baiting me to start another piss fight...?

As for the comparison, you lose again. I'm not in Sal's area code when it comes to raw intelligence...he's a lot smarter than I am.

It's OK. I make up for it by being better looking, and smarter than most of the folk on this forum.

Have a nice day stalker.


Stalker? You again, are not that important. I think you are schizo.

...................................

Whatever stalker.

You're justing whining because you attacked me again, and then you were proven wrong....again.





get the frisbee


When PaceDog tries to piss in your shoe, he only proves how much an amatuer he is at picking on people......



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