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PkrBum wrote:It's mental illness to continually assign your subjective attributes to people that you wish to malign for political convenience.
He's not a nazi..
he didn't gas anyone...
it's a fucking virus...
and "fine people" is mischaracterized laughably.
You're not doing well. I almost feel sorry for you...
it appears that you've adopted the dnc narrative as a voice in your head. You're an easy comrade.
othershoe1030 wrote:What do you make of this trouble he had drinking water from an ordinary glass? Some on twitter said he needed a full neurological workup (even before this, no doubt) others said they had relatives who did that and it was a sign of dementia.
Maybe he can use this as an excuse to resign due to medical conditions and save himself the embarrassment of losing the election? Do we want to run against Pence/Barr or whomever?
othershoe1030 wrote:What do you make of this trouble he had drinking water from an ordinary glass? Some on twitter said he needed a full neurological workup (even before this, no doubt) others said they had relatives who did that and it was a sign of dementia.
Maybe he can use this as an excuse to resign due to medical conditions and save himself the embarrassment of losing the election? Do we want to run against Pence/Barr or whomever?
othershoe1030 wrote:Always hoping for a sooner than planned exit for donny. I hadn't seen the ramp thing before, just watched it and noticed that his uncomfortableness with it includes his always leading with his left foot, like a toddler. Progressing from the "one foot lead" to alternate feet when climbing or descending stairs is a marker of a maturing nervous system in children. That's one observation. How many adults do we know who only lead with one foot? Of course he doesn't do this when climbing the stairs into the plane.
Another thing I pin a feeble hope on is that he really hates losers, hates to lose himself, so I'm wondering if, even in his self delusional bubble, he can see the writing on the wall pointing to his major and decisive loss in November? He may not want to have to face an overwhelmingly blue electoral map on all networks? Let Pence run and blame Pence's loss on being a poor campaigner with no responsibility on his part for messing everything up so dramatically? Of course, he'll probably not be able to pass up going to rallies so all bets are off.
This is a cycle, and I feel that in some ways, the issue is that we’re addressing the wrong problem. We continue to make this about the police — the how of it. How can they police? Is it about sensitivity and de-escalation training and community policing? All that can make for a less-egregious relationship between the police and people of color. But the how isn’t as important as the why, which we never address. The police are a reflection of a society. They’re not a rogue alien organization that came down to torment the black community. They’re enforcing segregation. Segregation is legally over, but it never ended. The police are, in some respects, a border patrol, and they patrol the border between the two Americas. We have that so that the rest of us don’t have to deal with it. Then that situation erupts, and we express our shock and indignation. But if we don’t address the anguish of a people, the pain of being a people who built this country through forced labor — people say, ‘‘I’m tired of everything being about race.’’ Well, imagine how [expletive] exhausting it is to live that.
Look, every advancement toward equality has come with the spilling of blood. Then, when that’s over, a defensiveness from the group that had been doing the oppressing. There’s always this begrudging sense that black people are being granted something, when it’s white people’s lack of being able to live up to the defining words of the birth of the country that is the problem. There’s a lack of recognition of the difference in our system. Chris Rock used to do a great bit: ‘‘No white person wants to change places with a black person. They don’t even want to exchange places with me, and I’m rich.’’ It’s true. There’s not a white person out there who would want to be treated like even a successful black person in this country. And if we don’t address the why of that treatment, the how is just window dressing. You know, we’re in a bizarre time of quarantine. White people lasted six weeks and then stormed a state building with rifles, shouting: ‘‘Give me liberty! This is causing economic distress! I’m not going to wear a mask, because that’s tyranny!’’ That’s six weeks versus 400 years of quarantining a race of people. The policing is an issue, but it’s the least of it. We use the police as surrogates to quarantine these racial and economic inequalities so that we don’t have to deal with them.
Imagine the anguish of living in a country that profited off the forced labor of your ancestors, and is still having this conversation: ‘‘Hey, do you think we should fly the flag of the people that fought to enslave your ancestors? What do you guys think of that? Good idea or bad idea?’’ And then you hear, ‘‘It’s history.’’ It’s not history! It’s hagiography. If you go down there and read the plaques on the Confederate monuments, they aren’t, ‘‘This [expletive] thought he could enslave people based on the color of their skin.’’ That’s not what the plaque says. The plaque honors them! Enraging doesn’t begin to describe it.
But in a way, Donald Trump’s presidency has been a positive, because it shows that American democratic exceptionalism is not a birthright. He’s like a white-hat hacker. You go: ‘‘I think we’ve done a great job of building a safeguarded system. Could you test the vulnerabilities?’’ The hacker goes — boop, boop, boop — ‘‘I’m in through the back door, and I stole all your information.’’ With Donald Trump it’s like: ‘‘We have a very fair and impartial judiciary. What do you think, Donald?” He goes — boop, boop, boop — ‘‘Actually, if I move some people around, I can turn it into a corrupt partisan affair.’’ And I used to talk about how ‘‘The Daily Show’’ was a refinery. We would take unrefined material in the morning and try to create something relatively palatable by the end of the day. Some days we created a beautiful blended whiskey. Other days we created rotgut. We had a system to try and address that challenge. And that’s just a dopey show! Within the government, they’ve instead created a system to insulate themselves and propagate their own interests. And I think the root of that is the for-profit incentivization of the industrial-political complex
Are the controversial things that President Trump says structurally motivated? Do you believe he’s thinking on that level?
I think he understands very well — and the right understands very well — that undermining the credibility of the institutions that people look to for help defining and making sense of reality is the key to bending reality to your will. It’s a wonderful rhetorical trick. He had a great one on Memorial Day weekend: ‘‘We’re getting great reviews on our pandemic response. But of course, not getting credit for it.’’ The twisted logic of that: If you’re getting great reviews, I’m pretty sure that’s considered credit. It’s like saying, ‘‘I’m being praised, but of course I won’t be praised for it.’’ Language is utterly meaningless. Everything is placed into its category in the tribal war and who its real victims are: Donald Trump and his minions. Poor little billionaire president who can’t catch a break. It’s incredible. Are we all just extras in this guy’s movie? But I do feel as if his approach has worked for him his whole life.
He did become president.
Right. He’s a man who has suffered no consequences. His is a recklessness born of experience. He’s like a malevolent Mr. Magoo. He always knows the I-beam is going to swing down and the building is going to collapse — but who cares, because he’ll walk out unscathed. That’s what he has learned.
I think he understands very well — and the right understands very well — that undermining the credibility of the institutions that people look to for help defining and making sense of reality is the key to bending reality to your will
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FRI, JUN 26TH, 2020 BY JASON EASLEY
Trump Knew Putin Put A Bounty On US Troops And Did Nothing
Via: The New York Times:
American intelligence officials have concluded that a Russian military intelligence unit secretly offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants for killing coalition forces in Afghanistan — including targeting American troops — amid the peace talks to end the long-running war there, according to officials briefed on the matter.
he United States concluded months ago that the Russian unit, which has been linked to assassination attempts and other covert operations in Europe intended to destabilize the West or take revenge on turncoats, had covertly offered rewards for successful attacks last year.
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The intelligence finding was briefed to President Trump, and the White House’s National Security Council discussed the problem at an interagency meeting in late March, the officials said.
Putin placed a bounty on the heads of US troops in Afghanistan that was collected upon by militants, and Donald Trump has done nothing in response.
Trump wouldn’t stand up to Putin on Russian election interference in 2016, and he is rolling over even as Putin is paying for US troops to be killed in Afghanistan. The families of those service members who Russia paid the bounty on deserve to know why Trump has let Putin pay for the murder of the loved ones with no consequences.
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