Putin already attacking American Public Utilities via Cyber Warfare

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Read the attached article.  The Pussy Grabber still thinks Putin's a good guy he wants to befriend.

The friend of your enemy

            IS YOUR ENEMY!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-penetrated-vermont-electric-utility-washington-post-020521690.html[/quote

Proven FAKE NEWS.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Read the attached article.  The Pussy Grabber still thinks Putin's a good guy he wants to befriend.

The friend of your enemy

            IS YOUR ENEMY!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-penetrated-vermont-electric-utility-washington-post-020521690.html[/quote

Proven FAKE NEWS.

More bullshit from the bullshit King.  Here's an extraction from the latest article on the possibility of the Vermont public utility's story:

"Plus Greenwald's arguments are lost on the many who just see a chance to bash the "mainstream media" and the [Washington] Post, which distinguished itself this election season with aggressive reporting on Trump's businesses and background. The right-wing blogosphere was united in its take on the Post's initial, inflated reporting, with the Daily Caller's headline reading, "Washington Post Publishes False News Story About Russians Hacking Electrical Grid;" RedState ran "Washington Post Runs Fake News Story on Power Grid Hacking." The Post did irresponsibly overstate the issue by first reporting that "Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid," but the underlying story is true: Malware used by Russian hackers has been found on a U.S. utility computer, which should be a matter of grave concern. No matter—the right-wing army mobilized on Twitter, gleefully throwing around the "fake news" label that was initially applied to blogs that wrote demonstrably untrue stories surrounding the election but has been appropriated as a cudgel against any reporting that doesn't fit their preferred narrative."

As quoted above, it's clear that our resident fascist-racist "has been appropriated as a cudgel against any reporting that doesn't fit their preferred narrative."  Markle is simply telling another of his many lies, as is his habit to claim things he wishes were true, were fact.  Markle wouldn't know a fact because he doesn't recognize fact.  For him and many of his followers, living in a post-fact world is all that matters.

2seaoat wrote:It was definitely poor journalism where the computer hacked by the Russians was NOT on the grid network.  There is a difference in poor journalism and fake news.  One is an intentional act, and one is a negligent act.  This was simple negligence and poor journalism, as the motivation to write a fake news story on this subject with the intent to diminish Trump's election through flooding the news media with innuendo concerning the Russians, is contradicted by the very fact that the Russians had indeed penetrated a Utility computer.  That is the story.   It is true.  It is sufficient to delineate the problem, and it is the total defense to this story being fake news.

2seaoat wrote:FAKE NEWS! Thank you.

It is an intelligence thing.  I feel like a kid with a magnifying glass playing with ants.......zap.....zap.

fake1
fāk/
noun
noun: fake; plural noun: fakes

   1.
   a  a forgery or sham.

You cannot create a forgery or perpetrate a sham without intent.  Please show me where the reporter, news organization had knowledge that the Russian hack was limited to an off line computer when they learned that Russian malware was on a computer, or that the crime is any less.  You post forgeries, lies, and shams with the very specific intent to introduce "fake" news to comply with a propaganda strategy.  The rookie reporter at the city council meeting who reports that only a veto by the mayor can stop the bill when in fact a simple majority of the council can do the same is NOT fake news where an intentional forgery or sham is perpetrated.  It is simply poor journalism and negligence.   Please do not try to compare the evil you perpetrate to rampant sloppy journalism.   They are not congruent.

RealLindaL wrote:

2seaoat wrote:FAKE NEWS! Thank you.

It is an intelligence thing.  I feel like a kid with a magnifying glass playing with ants.......zap.....zap.

fake1
fāk/
noun
noun: fake; plural noun: fakes

   1.
   a  a forgery or sham.

You cannot create a forgery or perpetrate a sham without intent.  Please show me where the reporter, news organization had knowledge that the Russian hack was limited to an off line computer when they learned that Russian malware was on a computer, or that the crime is any less.  You post forgeries, lies, and shams with the very specific intent to introduce "fake" news to comply with a propaganda strategy.  The rookie reporter at the city council meeting who reports that only a veto by the mayor can stop the bill when in fact a simple majority of the council can do the same is NOT fake news where an intentional forgery or sham is perpetrated.  It is simply poor journalism and negligence.   Please do not try to compare the evil you perpetrate to rampant sloppy journalism.   They are not congruent.

Seaoat is 100% correct here.  Further, the people on this forum throwing around the term "FAKE NEWS" left and right are only hurting themselves and their future case for any future accusation against verifiable fake news (which the story in question most definitely ISN'T).   Any idiot (except, apparently, the idiots on this forum) should be able to eaily see that the term will only lose all credibility and meaning when it's used willy-nilly with no connection to reality.

This incorrect over-usage of the term is not only irresponsible, it's just plain stupid.  But why would that surprise anyone?  As Sea said, it's an intelligence (or, more accurately, lack of same) thing.  Sadly, he's talking to a totally blank wall.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Read the attached article.  The Pussy Grabber still thinks Putin's a good guy he wants to befriend.

The friend of your enemy

            IS YOUR ENEMY!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-penetrated-vermont-electric-utility-washington-post-020521690.html[/quote

Proven FAKE NEWS.

More bullshit from the bullshit King.  Here's an extraction from the latest article on the possibility of the Vermont public utility's story:

"Plus Greenwald's arguments are lost on the many who just see a chance to bash the "mainstream media" and the [Washington] Post, which distinguished itself this election season with aggressive reporting on Trump's businesses and background. The right-wing blogosphere was united in its take on the Post's initial, inflated reporting, with the Daily Caller's headline reading, "Washington Post Publishes False News Story About Russians Hacking Electrical Grid;" RedState ran "Washington Post Runs Fake News Story on Power Grid Hacking." The Post did irresponsibly overstate the issue by first reporting that "Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid," but the underlying story is true: Malware used by Russian hackers has been found on a U.S. utility computer, which should be a matter of grave concern. No matter—the right-wing army mobilized on Twitter, gleefully throwing around the "fake news" label that was initially applied to blogs that wrote demonstrably untrue stories surrounding the election but has been appropriated as a cudgel against any reporting that doesn't fit their preferred narrative."

As quoted above, it's clear that our resident fascist-racist "has been appropriated as a cudgel against any reporting that doesn't fit their preferred narrative."  Markle is simply telling another of his many lies, as is his habit to claim things he wishes were true, were fact.  Markle wouldn't know a fact because he doesn't recognize fact.  For him and many of his followers, living in a post-fact world is all that matters.

Still FAKE NEWS.  As you know.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Read the attached article.  The Pussy Grabber still thinks Putin's a good guy he wants to befriend.

The friend of your enemy

            IS YOUR ENEMY!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-penetrated-vermont-electric-utility-washington-post-020521690.html[/quote

Proven FAKE NEWS.

More bullshit from the bullshit King.  Here's an extraction from the latest article on the possibility of the Vermont public utility's story:

"Plus Greenwald's arguments are lost on the many who just see a chance to bash the "mainstream media" and the [Washington] Post, which distinguished itself this election season with aggressive reporting on Trump's businesses and background. The right-wing blogosphere was united in its take on the Post's initial, inflated reporting, with the Daily Caller's headline reading, "Washington Post Publishes False News Story About Russians Hacking Electrical Grid;" RedState ran "Washington Post Runs Fake News Story on Power Grid Hacking." The Post did irresponsibly overstate the issue by first reporting that "Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid," but the underlying story is true: Malware used by Russian hackers has been found on a U.S. utility computer, which should be a matter of grave concern. No matter—the right-wing army mobilized on Twitter, gleefully throwing around the "fake news" label that was initially applied to blogs that wrote demonstrably untrue stories surrounding the election but has been appropriated as a cudgel against any reporting that doesn't fit their preferred narrative."

As quoted above, it's clear that our resident fascist-racist "has been appropriated as a cudgel against any reporting that doesn't fit their preferred narrative."  Markle is simply telling another of his many lies, as is his habit to claim things he wishes were true, were fact.  Markle wouldn't know a fact because he doesn't recognize fact.  For him and many of his followers, living in a post-fact world is all that matters.

Still FAKE NEWS.  As you know.

And your claim that it's fake is still bullshit ... as you well know. Show us some real evidence and not right wing conjecture ... if you can.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Read the attached article.  The Pussy Grabber still thinks Putin's a good guy he wants to befriend.

The friend of your enemy

            IS YOUR ENEMY!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-penetrated-vermont-electric-utility-washington-post-020521690.html[/quote

Proven FAKE NEWS.

More bullshit from the bullshit King.  Here's an extraction from the latest article on the possibility of the Vermont public utility's story:

"Plus Greenwald's arguments are lost on the many who just see a chance to bash the "mainstream media" and the [Washington] Post, which distinguished itself this election season with aggressive reporting on Trump's businesses and background. The right-wing blogosphere was united in its take on the Post's initial, inflated reporting, with the Daily Caller's headline reading, "Washington Post Publishes False News Story About Russians Hacking Electrical Grid;" RedState ran "Washington Post Runs Fake News Story on Power Grid Hacking." The Post did irresponsibly overstate the issue by first reporting that "Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid," but the underlying story is true: Malware used by Russian hackers has been found on a U.S. utility computer, which should be a matter of grave concern. No matter—the right-wing army mobilized on Twitter, gleefully throwing around the "fake news" label that was initially applied to blogs that wrote demonstrably untrue stories surrounding the election but has been appropriated as a cudgel against any reporting that doesn't fit their preferred narrative."

As quoted above, it's clear that our resident fascist-racist "has been appropriated as a cudgel against any reporting that doesn't fit their preferred narrative."  Markle is simply telling another of his many lies, as is his habit to claim things he wishes were true, were fact.  Markle wouldn't know a fact because he doesn't recognize fact.  For him and many of his followers, living in a post-fact world is all that matters.

Still FAKE NEWS.  As you know.

And your claim that it's fake is still bullshit ... as you well know. Show us some real evidence and not right wing conjecture ... if you can.

Catch up on the news at a real site.

2seaoat wrote:It simply is not "fake news", nor does the FBI convene grand juries, and despite what Mr. Markle does not know or understand, there are managing brokers.  This attempt by a shill  who utilize propaganda which often involves "fake news" in an attempt to dilute, or in Orwellian splendor create "newspeak":

noun
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) an official or semiofficial style of writing or saying one thing in the guise of its opposite, especially in order to serve a political or ideological cause while pretending to be objective, as in referring to “increased taxation” as “revenue enhancement.”.

So as the propagandist turn sloppy and negligent journalism into that intentional act of fake news to gain cover and as Linda said dilute the clear agenda of those who create fake news......so of course our resident liar arrives at an accident where a lady not paying attention makes a left turn into traffic which results in an accident.  He immediately declares that the lady will be indicted for battery, and then asks the FBI to convene a grand jury.  Please pull your pants up at this party and quit chitting in the living room......and please stop trying to convince us that the smell is flowers.

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:It simply is not "fake news", nor does the FBI convene grand juries, and despite what Mr. Markle does not know or understand, there are managing brokers.  This attempt by a shill  who utilize propaganda which often involves "fake news" in an attempt to dilute, or in Orwellian splendor create "newspeak":

noun
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) an official or semiofficial style of writing or saying one thing in the guise of its opposite, especially in order to serve a political or ideological cause while pretending to be objective, as in referring to “increased taxation” as “revenue enhancement.”.

So as the propagandist turn sloppy and negligent journalism into that intentional act of fake news to gain cover and as Linda said dilute the clear agenda of those who create fake news......so of course our resident liar arrives at an accident where a lady not paying attention makes a left turn into traffic which results in an accident.  He immediately declares that the lady will be indicted for battery, and then asks the FBI to convene a grand jury.  Please pull your pants up at this party and quit chitting in the living room......and please stop trying to convince us that the smell is flowers.

Thank you for sharing.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:It simply is not "fake news", nor does the FBI convene grand juries, and despite what Mr. Markle does not know or understand, there are managing brokers.  This attempt by a shill  who utilize propaganda which often involves "fake news" in an attempt to dilute, or in Orwellian splendor create "newspeak":

noun
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) an official or semiofficial style of writing or saying one thing in the guise of its opposite, especially in order to serve a political or ideological cause while pretending to be objective, as in referring to “increased taxation” as “revenue enhancement.”.

So as the propagandist turn sloppy and negligent journalism into that intentional act of fake news to gain cover and as Linda said dilute the clear agenda of those who create fake news......so of course our resident liar arrives at an accident where a lady not paying attention makes a left turn into traffic which results in an accident.  He immediately declares that the lady will be indicted for battery, and then asks the FBI to convene a grand jury.  Please pull your pants up at this party and quit chitting in the living room......and please stop trying to convince us that the smell is flowers.

Thank you for sharing.

And thank you my racist-fascist friend, for so many laughs.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:It simply is not "fake news", nor does the FBI convene grand juries, and despite what Mr. Markle does not know or understand, there are managing brokers.  This attempt by a shill  who utilize propaganda which often involves "fake news" in an attempt to dilute, or in Orwellian splendor create "newspeak":

noun
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) an official or semiofficial style of writing or saying one thing in the guise of its opposite, especially in order to serve a political or ideological cause while pretending to be objective, as in referring to “increased taxation” as “revenue enhancement.”.

So as the propagandist turn sloppy and negligent journalism into that intentional act of fake news to gain cover and as Linda said dilute the clear agenda of those who create fake news......so of course our resident liar arrives at an accident where a lady not paying attention makes a left turn into traffic which results in an accident.  He immediately declares that the lady will be indicted for battery, and then asks the FBI to convene a grand jury.  Please pull your pants up at this party and quit chitting in the living room......and please stop trying to convince us that the smell is flowers.

Thank you for sharing.

And thank you my racist-fascist friend, for so many laughs.

By the way, the word you are looking for is CYBER...not CIBER.  Ciber is the name of a company.

Wordslinger wrote:Read the attached article.  The Pussy Grabber still thinks Putin's a good guy he wants to befriend.

The friend of your enemy

            IS YOUR ENEMY!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-penetrated-vermont-electric-utility-washington-post-020521690.html

2seaoat wrote:[b]Fake news moron[/b

You take pride in being wrong.   Negligent journalism being compared to fake news is simply an attempt to obscure the systematic use of fake news for propaganda purposes.   The truth is the Russians hacked a computer in a utility.  That is the story.   The fact that the hack was not on the network which involved the grid, is a mistake in reporting, and not a systematic attempt to create a false impression that Russians are hacking in America.   That fact was established twenty five years ago.  The Russians conduct cyber espionage as we do we with them.

Tellthetruth wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Fake news moron[/b

You take pride in being wrong.   Negligent journalism being compared to fake news is simply an attempt to obscure the systematic use of fake news for propaganda purposes.   The truth is the Russians hacked a computer in a utility.  That is the story.   The fact that the hack was not on the network which involved the grid, is a mistake in reporting, and not a systematic attempt to create a false impression that Russians are hacking in America.   That fact was established twenty five years ago.  The Russians conduct cyber espionage as we do we with them.

Fake news ....

http://nypost.com/affiliate?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fworld%2Fnational-security%2Frussian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont%2F2016%2F12%2F30%2F8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html%3Futm_term%3D.bf6e1d23c936&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2017%2F01%2F01%2Fwashington-post-retracts-story-about-russian-hack-at-vermont-utility%2F

Wordslinger wrote:
The latest reports on this confirm Peedawg's statement.  The Russian malware did not reach the power grid, and was found only on one of the firm's computers which was not connected to the grid.

Guess what Peedawg -- it doesn't hurt my ego a bit to admit I was wrong once real facts are presented.  Too bad you cannot say the same.

It's beginning to look like the people who say the Russians are guilty of hacking the election, are matched by the numbers saying the story is bullshit.  I don't trust the intelligence agencies any more than you should trust the republicans and Trump.

So, who really knows?