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American Sniper Glorifies Warfare, and Chris Kyle loved Killing "those Savages."

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Noted Professor Noam Chomsky blasts the film and our propensity for killing other people.

http://www.alternet.org/watch-chomsky-blasts-american-sniper-and-media-glorifies-it?akid=12720.260394.-yp2xu&rd=1&src=newsletter1030911&t=3


KarlRove

KarlRove

Noam is an idiot,

Markle

Markle

My socialist/communist good friend Wordslinger laps up the cool aid from any and all other socialist/communists.

One would think Wordslinger would love the anti-war movie. It vividly shows the horrors of war, the decisions our hero's are forced to make and the horrors they go through and live with when they go home.

Wordslinger, and the other anti-war folks are blessed that they have men and women who are willing and able to do what the Wordslinger's are and were incapable of doing.

You don't just go into the military and ask to be a sniper, seal or special forces. You're take numerous tests, IQ as well as psychological as well as physical ability. They learn if you are a leader, follower or loser. They learn if you're strong enough to be a sniper or any of the other special combat training soldiers, airborne etc.

Then there are those who are happy to have others go out and spill THEIR blood while they sit home and call those hero's names and do all they can to denigrate them.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:My socialist/communist good friend Wordslinger laps up the cool aid from any and all other socialist/communists.

One would think Wordslinger would love the anti-war movie. It vividly shows the horrors of war, the decisions our hero's are forced to make and the horrors they go through and live with when they go home.

Wordslinger, and the other anti-war folks are blessed that they have men and women who are willing and able to do what the Wordslinger's are and were incapable of doing.

You don't just go into the military and ask to be a sniper, seal or special forces.  You're take numerous tests, IQ as well as psychological as well as physical ability.  They learn if you are a leader, follower or loser.  They learn if you're strong enough to be a sniper or any of the other special combat training soldiers, airborne etc.

Then there are those who are happy to have others go out and spill THEIR blood while they sit home and call those hero's names and do all they can to denigrate them.

The war that exploited Kyle was a tragic, illogical, waste of lives and money. The film American Sniper bends reality to glorify the killing. One problem is that characters who didn't exist (the little boy with the mother who hands him a grenade) were added for dramatic purpose. The evil Iraqi sniper who serves as an ongoing heavy in several scenes, existed but Kyle only dealt with him once. The problem is the film comes across as reality and most of it's bullshit. Every one of movie Kyle's targets in the film was a thoroughly evil character. The film tries to tie Iraq to 9-11 and makes other political statements. Many, if not the majority of "I love to shoot those savages" Chris Kyle's targets were Iraqis fighting to rid their country of a foreign invader force. As I wrote in the forum, Chris Kyle deserves respect for doing his military duty as well as he could. He truly did protect the "door kickers" he was assigned to cover. But the real sniper was a psychopathic killer who couldn't wait to get back to Iraq to kill more "savages."

Let's face it, it was a sick war and so was Kyle.

As for Semi-Sane's comments about my own character and history, I served in the U.S. Air Force during the Korean and cold war. It's my understanding that Semi-sane Markle never served in uniform.

He's right however about me being a socialist. I really do believe that the broad majority of Americans, those who work, and build, and create to feed their families should rule. Semi-sane Markle thinks only the rich are qualified for that job. And so does most of his inane, anti-American, and thoroughly racist republican party -- all of which have sold their souls to the Koch Brothers, Exxon, and anyone else who will finance their campaigns. For payback, the republicans in congress bend over backwards to pass legislation that will fatten the purses of the bloodsuckers who own them, even when such legislation will produce deadly polluting outcomes, ship more jobs overseas, and exploit workers who even with two jobs require food stamps and other governmental aid to get by. In fairness, most of the democrats in congress are in the same boat, owned outright by big campaign financers. Most of the officials elected to congress from either party are millionaires. Only an idiot would believe these wealthy legislators have we, the peoples' interests at heart! Like his confused, conflictive and irresponsible party, Semi-sane Markle has no, I repeat, has NO integrity or scruples. His life is dedicated (look at how many hours he spends here each day) to protecting the ultra rich and the biggest bloodsucking corporations on the planet.

REALITY

Screw Amerika Inc.! Corporate control of our government through campaign financing.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

The box office success of American Sniper shows just how screwed up America is ...

Read this:

http://www.alternet.org/culture/chris-hedges-american-sniper-caters-deep-sickness-rippling-through-society?akid=12721.260394.QDJ_P6&rd=1&src=newsletter1030924&t=9

Sal

Sal

Wordslinger wrote:The box office success of American Sniper shows just how screwed up America is ...

Read this:

http://www.alternet.org/culture/chris-hedges-american-sniper-caters-deep-sickness-rippling-through-society?akid=12721.260394.QDJ_P6&rd=1&src=newsletter1030924&t=9

An excellent article and dissection of this vile piece of propaganda film, Slinger.

The comments following the article were equally edifying.

I especially appreciated this one ...

American Sniper Glorifies Warfare, and Chris Kyle loved Killing "those Savages." Screen12

gatorfan



War is an ugly affair but A/S is just a work of fiction movie. Those who crucify Kyle as a kitten killing murderer need to consider over 3,000 people have been killed under the Obama drone strike authority. Does this make Obama a murderous, war-mongering monster too? Even knowing hundreds of the dead were innocent civilians (women/kids) drone strikes are still occurring in countries we aren’t even at “war” with. Kyle was doing the job he was ordered to do, I seriously doubt he enjoyed it in reality.

Got a whine about how the military is prosecuting a war? Go to the top – the Commander-in-Chief – you know, the one who sets the policies for ROE and authorizes use of force.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

gatorfan wrote:War is an ugly affair but A/S is just a work of fiction movie. Those who crucify Kyle as a kitten killing murderer need to consider over 3,000 people have been killed under the Obama drone strike authority. Does this make Obama a murderous, war-mongering monster too? Even knowing hundreds of the dead were innocent civilians (women/kids) drone strikes are still occurring in countries we aren’t even at “war” with. Kyle was doing the job he was ordered to do, I seriously doubt he enjoyed it in reality.

Got a whine about how the military is prosecuting a war? Go to the top – the Commander-in-Chief – you know, the one who sets the policies for ROE and authorizes use of force.

I agree, the buck stops on Obama's desk. Eventually he did pull our troops out, snipers and all. The issue of this forum thread however, dealt with how Kyle's character was altered to suit Eastwood's politics and creative needs.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:The box office success of American Sniper shows just how screwed up America is ...

Read this:

http://www.alternet.org/culture/chris-hedges-american-sniper-caters-deep-sickness-rippling-through-society?akid=12721.260394.QDJ_P6&rd=1&src=newsletter1030924&t=9

AlterNet, a Socialist site. Little wonder my socialist/communist good friend Wordslinger supports them.

My socialist/communist good friend Wordslinger is OPPOSED to an anti-war movie.  What next?  He's going to support America?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:The box office success of American Sniper shows just how screwed up America is ...

Read this:

http://www.alternet.org/culture/chris-hedges-american-sniper-caters-deep-sickness-rippling-through-society?akid=12721.260394.QDJ_P6&rd=1&src=newsletter1030924&t=9

AlterNet, a Socialist site.  Little wonder my socialist/communist good friend Wordslinger supports them.

My socialist/communist good friend Wordslinger is OPPOSED to an anti-war movie.  What next?  He's going to support America?


Dear Semi-sane Markle, the real Chris Kyle couldn't wait to get back and shoot those "savages" as he called them. And the film tries to connect 9-11 to Iraq which, of course, is a total lie. Kyle's so called horrors of war would have been less, no doubt, if Eastwood's scripts hadn't added grenade-armed kids for poor Kyle to worry about.

Do tell me what makes the film an anti-war piece, I'm all ears.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Wordslinger wrote:Noted Professor Noam Chomsky blasts the film and our propensity for killing other people.

http://www.alternet.org/watch-chomsky-blasts-american-sniper-and-media-glorifies-it?akid=12720.260394.-yp2xu&rd=1&src=newsletter1030911&t=3



I wonder why Noam never wrote a book about Iraqi mothers who send their kids with hand grenades running at a column of Marines trying to kill and maim them? Hmmm.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Noted Professor Noam Chomsky blasts the film and our propensity for killing other people.

http://www.alternet.org/watch-chomsky-blasts-american-sniper-and-media-glorifies-it?akid=12720.260394.-yp2xu&rd=1&src=newsletter1030911&t=3



I wonder why Noam never wrote a book about Iraqi mothers who send their kids with hand grenades running at a column of Marines trying to kill and maim them? Hmmm.

That's something that Chris Kyle never wrote about in his book.    The scene in the movie wasn't real, Eastwood dramatized it by adding the child.  But then, considering your desperate grasp at sanity, we should cut you some slack for mixing fantasy and Reality.  LOL

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
KarlRove wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Noted Professor Noam Chomsky blasts the film and our propensity for killing other people.

http://www.alternet.org/watch-chomsky-blasts-american-sniper-and-media-glorifies-it?akid=12720.260394.-yp2xu&rd=1&src=newsletter1030911&t=3



I wonder why Noam never wrote a book about Iraqi mothers who send their kids with hand grenades running at a column of Marines trying to kill and maim them? Hmmm.

That's something that Chris Kyle never wrote about in his book.    The scene in the movie wasn't real, Eastwood dramatized it by adding the child.  But then, considering your desperate grasp at sanity, we should cut you some slack for mixing fantasy and Reality.  LOL

It is an anti-war movie based on a real life person. It is not a documentary. Although claiming to be a documentary never kept Al "Snake Oil Salesman" Gore from lying repeated in his.

Do you deny that children have been used as suicide bombers and other attacks on our troops?

We all realize that you and the truth have a strong aversion to one another.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
KarlRove wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Noted Professor Noam Chomsky blasts the film and our propensity for killing other people.

http://www.alternet.org/watch-chomsky-blasts-american-sniper-and-media-glorifies-it?akid=12720.260394.-yp2xu&rd=1&src=newsletter1030911&t=3



I wonder why Noam never wrote a book about Iraqi mothers who send their kids with hand grenades running at a column of Marines trying to kill and maim them? Hmmm.

That's something that Chris Kyle never wrote about in his book.    The scene in the movie wasn't real, Eastwood dramatized it by adding the child.  But then, considering your desperate grasp at sanity, we should cut you some slack for mixing fantasy and Reality.  LOL

It is an anti-war movie based on a real life person.  It is not a documentary.  Although claiming to be a documentary never kept Al "Snake Oil Salesman" Gore from lying repeated in his.

Do you deny that children have been used as suicide bombers and other attacks on our troops?

We all realize that you and the truth have a strong aversion to one another.

Just above this paragraph, Semi-Sane Markle races to the rescue of his good buddy, War Hero, the other far right fundamentalist Christian all-American, mentally challenged bully. War Hero was better off without his help.

Although the Kyle film comes across as a documentary, Markle AGREES it really isn't.  Then, in one of those brain-slip moves he's famous for he switches to another track and desperately tries to connect Al Gore to Eastwood's film.

No Semi-sane Markle, I do not deny that children have been used in the MidEast as suicide bombers. However, I never said they weren't.  What I did say was the famous scene in American Sniper, in which a little boy and his mother attempt to throw a grenade against U.S. Marine door-kickers coming up the street, wasn't real.  Eastwood added the little boy for theatrical spicing. Reality.

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