romney and ryan cannot make the math work....so this is in general section for remedial discussion

five trillion tax cuts for the wealthy, and they cannot make the math work.....people cannot be that stupid in America........well the polls are telling us that not everyone took "new" math. Mitten the Kitten tells folks he will not be able to balance the budget in four years........so exactly what is the incentive for middle americans to vote for Mr. Romney.....OH OH Mr. Kotter.....so five trillion can be given away to the top income folks.......but Mr. Kotter......I do not think the gap will be closed.........

Neither the republicans (romney) nor the democrats (obama) are going to do anything meaningful to deal with the deficit spending/debt.
They're not going to do it because the voters aren't demanding it. The people (collectively) aren't telling their congressmen to control the deficit spending. Simply because the people are now addicted to it.

2seaoat wrote:five trillion tax cuts for the wealthy, and they cannot make the math work.....people cannot be that stupid in America........well the polls are telling us that not everyone took "new" math. Mitten the Kitten tells folks he will not be able to balance the budget in four years........so exactly what is the incentive for middle americans to vote for Mr. Romney.....OH OH Mr. Kotter.....so five trillion can be given away to the top income folks.......but Mr. Kotter......I do not think the gap will be closed.........

Yes, people are that stupid in America. Every one of these republicans on this forum will vote against their own interests.LOL!

Bob,
In a moment of candor Romney admitted he cannot change the deficit in four years because it will hurt the economy. A budget is priorities. The special interests have set the priorities. After November we will not fix anything overnight, but if they can agree on prudent cuts, prudent increases in revenues, and targeted tax credits.....we will slowly find our way.

2seaoat wrote:Bob,
In a moment of candor Romney admitted he cannot change the deficit in four years because it will hurt the economy. A budget is priorities. The special interests have set the priorities. After November we will not fix anything overnight, but if they can agree on prudent cuts, prudent increases in revenues, and targeted tax credits.....we will slowly find our way.

as I said, the country is addicted to it. and the cure is as bad as the addiction.

i would settle for a sound currency at this point... the things seagoat tries pinning on one side and ignores for the other is common dense. if the results are nearly the same... the actions are too. i vote for gridlock.

Talk to a midwest farmer about how bad this economy is......talk to an employee at John Deere, Cat, or Navistar about a weak currency.......folks we are playing the oldest game in the world.....we are intentionally devaluing our dollar to increase our exports.....I am spending some time in the midwest the last 16 weeks and I am watching the corn be harvested on the first of October in bone dry corn.....which may go as high as 8 bucks a bushel when a decade ago it was a little over 2 bucks.....America is kicking butt in food production.....kicking butt. I have a two zero turn john deere commercial mowers, and they are simply state of the art and nobody can beat a john deer mower.....and I have rented a cat 318 excavator when dredging the river.....untouchable.....folks America is still the best....we produce the world's food, we are sitting on the world's fossil fuel reserves, and we have the greatest productivity........you get your panties in a was about a devalued currency, I want manufacturing jobs, my panties are wet.

Since you watch Morning Joe you may have been watching the other day when it was revealed that ALL of the revenues coming into the federal government provide enough funds to pay the amount required for medicare, medicaid, social security and interest on the debt. The money to pay for literally every other federal government expenditure including the DOD is now being borrowed.

The motto of every American should be "it's the arithmetic, stupid". But instead the motto of most all Americans is "don't gore my ox". And the actions (actually inactions) of the politicians in both parties is determined by that. Simply because that's what gets them re-elected. All we need do is look at our own congressman for the proof of it.

2seaoat wrote:five trillion tax cuts for the wealthy, and they cannot make the math work.....people cannot be that stupid in America........well the polls are telling us that not everyone took "new" math. Mitten the Kitten tells folks he will not be able to balance the budget in four years........so exactly what is the incentive for middle americans to vote for Mr. Romney.....OH OH Mr. Kotter.....so five trillion can be given away to the top income folks.......but Mr. Kotter......I do not think the gap will be closed.........

We would do well to remember Romney is a corporate raider who takes assets and distributes them to his benefit (which ain't the little guy). He is a corporate raider, always was a corporate raider and most likely will always be a corporate raider, and now has his eyes on America which he admits he plans to redistribute money from the middle class up to the wealthy.

Romney is a raider. This country simply needs to pay more taxes, and slowly shrink government. It took a decade to really get into this mess, but throughout American history we have had economic cycles......look around at our wealth......we just need to stop people from stealing the same and turning our population into indentured servants. We have traitors among us.....and these economic traitors are more dangerous than the loyalist who wanted to continue the British exploitation, because at some point we will lose the American dream......something an invading army could never have accomplished.

Their Only plan is a tax cut for the rich..

Lurch wrote:Their Only plan is a tax cut for the rich..

"The private sector is fine"...[Name] COWH....explain that math to the economic numbers....