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Blues Cancelling Many Shows Due to Crash

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2seaoat



We did that......collectively........as T said for years.....WE, and the folks brainwashed that war is necessary for full employment, and that military weapons which kill children for going on 16 years are elevated to bread and circus so the supporters of exporting war and allowing the MIC to steal this country and kill innocents can get their profit. Military air shows are part of the problem, not the solution. 110 million to propagandize war and you think someone has to "find" the horrors of what our bombings have done.....no I was brainwashed for most of my life, but it just took one person like T to make me open my eyes and "find" the truth........I would rather see floats with folks doing pornographic acts in front of children, than to see another generation harmed by the MIC propaganda which the blue angels sadly represent........find.......open your eyes.

Hallmarkgard



I have a Idea Mr Oats Being you feel so strong about the issue. Make a DVD of the clip you just posted and personally deliver it to Mr Kuss's widow and children Tell them to their face what you think. Deal?[/b]

2seaoat



Oh, so consistent.....a pity party where anybody against the killing of innocent civilians now becomes the enemies of deceased service members, and with the best of the MIC propaganda tools called association, you attempt to associate pure rejection of the militarization of America with callous disregard for those who were sacrificed on the alter of MIC profit and control of America. The problem with that worn out propaganda tool which you have used twice now with graveyards and a fallen members of the services......but I guarantee the five thousand parents who lost children in unnecessary war in Iraq would rather have their children back than fighting unnecessary wars which you do not even try to defend....instead you talk about the good old days with jobs, or how we should insult fallen servicemen because we believe in reducing war and the propaganda from MIC.....you are a great shill for war.

2seaoat



We can have full employment with a booming GDP, and children around the world can feel safe that our bombs will not be dropping on their homes, schools, and hospitals, once we tell shills for the MIC to stuff it.......the Blue Angels and all military air shows are shills for MIC.....Linda politely calls it a great recruiting tool, when the budget of the Blue angels could give the necessary retention bonuses to keep our best pilots.......no, like T I have no use for the MIC and I believe IKE when he said it was Americas greatest danger......certainly those children cheering as puffs of smoke come out of the back of killing machines must be shielded from pornography and my utube.......because war is patriotism and it creates jobs.........yep apologists for death.....thank you but no thank you.....my grandchildren will NOT be watching a MIC propaganda show.

Hallmarkgard



So you arent going to take the video to his widow?

2seaoat



So you arent going to take the video to his widow?


Why, and with more to come....there will always be plenty of videos showing what we have done to the innocents as shills for MIC, but until military air shows are no longer in the budget, it will matter little because more will die, and there will be more widows.

Hallmarkgard



So no. All talk. And no real action. Stop the blues, stop the t birds. Damn air shows are ruining the nation. Show us how Oats. Get some ball just don't talk. Help us. The future if the nation depends in you.

2seaoat



How about this.......why don't you go talk to those kids in Syria, and invite them to a blue Angel show and explain to them how important it is to keeping America safe.....or is it all talk Hallmark. But what splendid logic to take action against another victim of MIC.......all because you want to go back to the good old days when folks had lots of jobs working for MIC.......tell me how do you stop MIC but for talk.....political ideas change America, but when folks are afraid to act outside being one of the sheep in a herd, sometimes on public forums folks have to say enough.....T did a good job, and he was right, and as usual......I am dead cinch right on this issue. We need to cut the military budget and we need to demilitarize America.

Hallmarkgard



Lol. How quickly you forget my posts on Korea.

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Hallmarkgard wrote:

What is interesting is he is shown wearing a khaki-colored garrison cap. That color has not been standard in the Marine Corps since about 1974; about a year before I entered active duty. An exception for the uniform regulations has been made so the color of his cap matches the color of the caps worn by the Navy members. I only wore the olive green cap, and still keep the last one I wore in a dresser drawer.

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RealLindaL



2seaoat wrote:as usual......I am dead cinch right on this issue.  We need to cut the military budget and we need to demilitarize America.

As usual, your unfettered arrogance is completely off-putting.   You will not get anything done unless you can win others to your way of thinking, and you won't win a soul -- if fact you'll only turn others off completely -- if  you don't quit being such a huge-headed jerk and learn to speak with some humility.

No, you are not nearly as smart as you think you are, Mr. Sea.   On the contrary.

Hallmarkgard



I will not go into sitting down with some Japanese war vets in Japan and wondering of these were the same guys that tried to kill my Father.   Of course my Japanese friend wondered why my Dad tried to kill his.  I sat many a hours talking with my Korean girl friend listening to how she survived the horrors of the Korean war.  While I was worrying about my bicycles she was following our troops as they retreated from Seoul.  War is insane.  Seeing death and destruction first hand does make you wonder about the sanity of the universe.  The Blue Angel Air show has nothing to do  with it.  You in your warped perception might equate it to a horrible thing but it is not.   I can assure that Ms Kim would be love to see the Blues fly over her house.  A symbol of American pride that saved her and her brothers life.  I am proud to be an American and supporter of the Blue Angels...

2seaoat



I certainly will not change older folks opinions as they sit in their lawn chairs all excited about war machines belching smoke out their rear, rather it is the millions of Bernie supporters working minimum wage jobs as we budget trillions for more export of war to fill the bottom line and they are the ones saying enough. Just returned from my youngest grandson's birthday party, and I hope NOBODY at the party will ever be part of expansionary forces invading other sovereign nations to pad the profit of MIC. IKE had it right....T had it right, but Linda always sides with the militarized police and the police state taking rights away from citizens, and thinks aggrandizing war and recruitment is the right and sane policy........the meek shall inherit the world, and Christian tenets are good tenets, but the militarization of America must stop.......the idea I may be ridiculed by a majority of folks who are supporters of the police state and standing army, or not convincing them to change their opinion.....do not care.....you cannot handicap stupidity and if anybody thinks all the trump voters in the south are going to change their vote because I call him a racist, or that I do not agree with making America great "again".....because President Obama has finally made inroads on demilitarizing our international responses.......he and many others have the intelligence to understand that making America strong again by spending more money on the military is insanity.......Like Konrad's ducklings some have been imprinted that the Blue Angels are good for America......nothing I say will change that imprinting until people think.....and some bridges are too far.

2seaoat



No, you are not nearly as smart as you think you are, Mr. Sea.


You are right. I am much smarter. You see I have spent a lifetime fighting for justice with people telling me I am wrong, that I will never accomplish justice, that the old ways are the best ways, I have stood up at meetings and been the only person on a position, others probably share my thoughts, but they are afraid to walk against the grain of group scorn. Cowardice runs deep, but over time when I stand and speak............people listen. They know. Arrogance in battle for righteousness and justice is really unbridled humility with a sword. You are sincere....you care.....but your bias and slant on the world view....has been exposed over the years, and you would rather go along than rock the boat, but for a few PNJ columns which I always respected and thought were well thought out, you have a propensity to get along......not rock the boat, and not challenge the paradigm of your youth.

Hallmarkgard



Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultraconfidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.





You are right.  I am much smarter.  You see I have spent a lifetime fighting for justice.......................when I stand and speak............people listen.

2seaoat wrote:No, you are not nearly as smart as you think you are, Mr. Sea.


You are right.  I am much smarter.  You see I have spent a lifetime fighting for justice with people telling me I am wrong, that I will never accomplish justice, that the old ways are the best ways, I have stood up at meetings and been the only person on a position, others probably share my thoughts, but they are afraid to walk against the grain of group scorn.   Cowardice runs deep, but over time when I stand and speak............people listen.   They know.   Arrogance in battle for righteousness and justice is really unbridled humility with a sword.  You are sincere....you care.....but your bias and slant on the world view....has been exposed over the years, and you would rather go along than rock the boat, but for a few PNJ columns which I always respected and thought were well thought out, you have a propensity to get along......not rock the boat, and not challenge the paradigm of your youth.

2seaoat



Yep......now I am crazy when I do not follow the sheep and say how wonderful a militarized America is, and that I am not that smart.....well, I am neither crazy or dumb, just simply right on this issue. Throwing away 110 million and selling war to young people is not sane or smart......sorry, I am that smart.......war and the militarization of America has changed our character, our institutions, and our future, and it is time to cut the military budget......I worked my entire life in the private sector and not on the government teat, and when people think that being wrong but polite is the answer for America which has the MIC controlling our congress and military......I say hell no......it is time to stop the insanity and quit pretending air shows and aggrandizing weapons of war is anything close to sane, and making it part of the bread and circus on the public tab makes it even more insane......stopping the air shows will not reduce one recruit nor does it do anything other than aggrandize war and insure the bottom line for MIC......The Soviets use to put dissidents into the nut house.....the oldest trick when there is no logical response to dissent.

RealLindaL



2seaoat wrote:Linda always sides with the militarized police and the police state taking rights away from citizens, and thinks aggrandizing war and recruitment is the right and sane policy

This it TOTAL AND COMPLETE B.S.!!!!!!! You, sir, are hereby demonstrating that YOU DON'T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT ME OR WHAT I THINK. Evil or Very Mad

RealLindaL



2seaoat wrote:You are sincere....you care.....but your bias and slant on the world view....has been exposed over the years, and you would rather go along than rock the boat, but for a few PNJ columns which I always respected and thought were well thought out, you have a propensity to get along......not rock the boat, and not challenge the paradigm of your youth.


You have NO FRIGGIN' IDEA about any bias I may or may not have, nor whether or not I have a propensity to rock or not rock any boat, nor do you know BEANS about my youth or any paradigm thereof.   No, what happens is that you take YOUR world view -- or rather your view about everyone else except your perfect self -- and project your negative judgments onto the first convenient person whom YOU decide fits your preconceived notions about how wrong and stupid we all are ("we" being everyone except you, of course, who is always right).   You are a pitiful case. and I'm very sincere when I say that.

RealLindaL



Hallmarkgard wrote:Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultraconfidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

By golly, Hallmark, I think you've abso-positively hit the nail on the head.  It's really quite sad.

2seaoat



I guess your letter concerning commissioner May and my immediate condemnation of the same caused the same response, but we leave our footprints on these forums, and they have a distinct trail........and when I go against the flow like I did with commissioner May, or like I am doing when I say the Blue Angels are an unnecessary waste of resources which aggrandize war, I am attacked as an ego maniac and a narcissist......well guess what folks who have been right against the flood of wrong always are always seen as imbalanced or crazy, yet what is crazy is spending 110 million on military air shows while bombing children in the Middle East, and having citizens stopped by a police state in their own neighborhood without justification, and with lies about the basis of the stop. My footprint on the PNJ and here is pretty consistent.....I pisz off those who hold popular views, and when your response is that the Blue Angels are necessary for war recruitment, or Hallmark's response is his usual pity party that we should make cuts in graveyards, and that is sanity......try this one on for size.....borderline personality......but I do not have to pretend to be a psychologist(although we all know I could do the same Very Happy ), nor ad hominem attack when I have lost the moral high ground.....which is rare......but I guess a military person took my girlfriend, that I am a wally cox, that I do not know what I am talking about, and I am now a narcissist personality.......but the issues.....as I said.....dead cinch correct.

Hallmarkgard



The shoe fits Mr Oats, wear it proudly....How about this, a Fat cat rich white dude living in a isolated world, commenting on matters on that he claims absolute knowledge and thinks he is a true prophet and no one should dare question him?

Sorry Oats but this is you
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultraconfidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

RealLindaL



2seaoat wrote:when I go against the flow like I did with commissioner May, or like I am doing when I say the Blue Angels are an unnecessary waste of resources which aggrandize war, I am attacked as an ego maniac and a narcissist

You just don't get it, do you, Sea?  No one is calling you an egomaniac and/or narcissist because of your specific views on these and other topics.  You have every right to think whatever you want on the issues, and there will be heated discussion about them with you just as there is between most other forum members on such subjects.  But you, Mr. Sea, have earned yourself the reputation of being an egomaniac and/or narcissist,  NOT because of your opinions on issues, but specifically because of -- guess what? -- your egomaniacal and narcissistic behavior.

You may not wish to believe that, because it apparently suits you to consider yourself unjustly put upon due to your holding unpopular positions -- making you, I suppose, somewhat of a martyr to your favored causes, at least in your own  mind.   But, as already explained herein, you're wrong,  because you've missed the point entirely.

Hallmarkgard



I am glad America has the only Military flight team LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flight_demonstration_teams



2seaoat



Too funny......after 12 years of posting on the PNJ and here, I have been called for the First time a ego manic......I have been called names for 12 years......you name it, I have been called it.....I have been threatened, I have had people trying to locate who I am, but it has been about the issues. I have no problem not playing the game of false modesty, because what comes with that position is an implied concession that wrongheaded ideas have some sort of legitimacy which requires I bow my head to wrongheaded policy. Nope, I have no problem reminding Hallmark how wrong he was on Maritime Park, or no problem reminding Linda that a black man can drive his car in his neighborhood without a poice state stop........and the best part is to tell the truth about military symbols and the negative impact they have on American society.....but the personal best part for me is being attacked by ad hominem venom......it usually confirms that I am right and that I should not celebrate in the end zone.....and be a good boy......nah it has been way too much fun to see the strident support of evil for me not to do a narcissist.....egotistical.....touchdown celebration.......too funny........but keep defending military air shows as a recruiting tool, or maybe we need to debate the widow of a dead pilot.....notice in my celebratory touchdown dances, I rarely return the ad hominum attack.......when you are doing that touchdown dance your smiling too much. At least I got a mainlander and beach resident to find new love..... Very Happy

2seaoat



I am glad America has the only Military flight team LOL

So the logical extension of being copycats on parading military hardware is that we should have a May day celebration in front of the White House with the streets lined with children as tanks and ICBM missiles are put on parade......We can budget a couple hundred million and maybe let it be a traveling bread and circus.......I can see it now....PB lined with folks celebrating and ICBM.....Horray for war.....hey kids.....join the military......cuz we need real MIC jobs back in Pensacola.......lets bomb bomb bomb IRAN.....yea thats the ticket, and of course being an egotistical narcissist I will insist that I can lead the parade with the Seaoat synchronized dancers......look at me........

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