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Abortion is good for us all....LIES SALINSKY. We Don’t Need Abortions for Vaccines or Stem Cells

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Markle

Markle

Abortion is good for us all....LIES SALINSKY. We Don’t Need Abortions for Vaccines or Stem Cells

Don’t Let Planned Parenthood Use ‘Medical Research’ To Whitewash Its Baby Body Parts Atrocities


Medical researchers can get human tissue without buying it from people who harvest human organs from live babies.

Numerous articles are attempting to defend Planned Parenthood’s grotesque child trafficking by saying these atrocities promote scientific research. A recent video shows Planned Parenthood Medical Director Deborah Nucatola revealing numerous problematic practices that require investigation to confirm that for-profit sale of human organs is not occurring, Planned Parenthood is providing appropriate informed consent to its patients, and abortion procedures are not being modified in any way to prioritize “obtaining the product” over patient safety and legal requirements.

Nucatola’s casual suggestion over wine and lunch that engaging in partial-birth abortions will yield a better harvest of organs from human babies is not something to simply dismiss with “but it will help science.” Over at Reason, Elizabeth Nolan Brown floats this trial balloon poorly.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/22/dont-let-planned-parenthood-use-medical-research-to-whitewash-its-baby-body-parts-atrocities/

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

The body parts come from aborted fetus's, right? And they have a value in the field of research or research institutions wouldn't be buying them. Why toss these items out with the fetus, when they have some real use? To you it's a horrid atrocity. To me, it makes good sense!

Considering all their operational costs -- for considerably more services than abortion -- I'm glad Planned Parenthood has found a way to recoup some of their expenses. It's beyond your intellectual level, isn't it?

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:The body parts come from aborted fetus's, right?  And they have a value in the field of research or research institutions wouldn't be buying them.  Why toss these items out with the fetus, when they have some real use?  To you it's a horrid atrocity.  To me, it makes good sense!

Considering all their operational costs -- for considerably more services than abortion -- I'm glad Planned Parenthood has found a way to recoup some of their expenses.  It's beyond your intellectual level, isn't it?

No longer necessary.

2seaoat



No longer necessary.

So you think science is static.   You believe that this tissue should be disposed as hazardous waste instead of meeting the demand for medical research.   I sorry to inform you that women will have abortions.   That tissue can be disposed of in many ways, but some people in research have a demand for the same.  I would like to have ZERO supply of the tissue, but if there is tissue, I prefer medical research.  Science is not static and your uninformed conclusions does not make the same the truth.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:The body parts come from aborted fetus's, right?  And they have a value in the field of research or research institutions wouldn't be buying them.  Why toss these items out with the fetus, when they have some real use?  To you it's a horrid atrocity.  To me, it makes good sense!

Considering all their operational costs -- for considerably more services than abortion -- I'm glad Planned Parenthood has found a way to recoup some of their expenses.  It's beyond your intellectual level, isn't it?

No longer necessary.

You are a true dummy. If human fetus tissue wasn't of use to science why do research agencies buy it? Tell us again that hot is cold ....

Sal

Sal

Necessary?

Necessary for what??

Fetal tissue is obviously an instrumental and useful resource or researchers such as Dr. Ben Carson wouldn't be using it.

Once again, Planned Parenthood hasn't been shown to have done anything unethical, much less illegal.

Here you go, Ol' Man Markle ....


Abortion is good for us all....LIES SALINSKY.    We Don’t Need Abortions for Vaccines or Stem Cells Bonbon-dbfbe36b2ab7e3e46f8bdbc19fcc3ada

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

The National Organ Transplant Act was amended in 1988 to
specifically prohibit the sale of fetal tissue and organs. It states,
“It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly acquire, receive, or
otherwise transfer any human organ for valuable consideration for use in
human transplantation if the transfer affects interstate commerce.” The
Fetal Tissue Act also prohibits women from aborting their infants to
donate the tissue for financial gain, or to benefit a relative or
friend. The law is designed to remove any personal benefit from aborting
an infant.


Sal

Sal

TEOTWAWKI wrote:The National Organ Transplant Act was amended in 1988 to
specifically prohibit the sale of fetal tissue and organs. It states,
“It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly acquire, receive, or
otherwise transfer any human organ for valuable consideration for use in
human transplantation if the transfer affects interstate commerce.” The
Fetal Tissue Act also prohibits women from aborting their infants to
donate the tissue for financial gain, or to benefit a relative or
friend. The law is designed to remove any personal benefit from aborting
an infant.



See, Ol' Man Markle?

Not illegal.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Salinsky wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:The National Organ Transplant Act was amended in 1988 to
specifically prohibit the sale of fetal tissue and organs. It states,
“It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly acquire, receive, or
otherwise transfer any human organ for valuable consideration for use in
human transplantation if the transfer affects interstate commerce.” The
Fetal Tissue Act also prohibits women from aborting their infants to
donate the tissue for financial gain, or to benefit a relative or
friend. The law is designed to remove any personal benefit from aborting
an infant.



See, Ol' Man Markle?

Not illegal.

Yup and that Lamborghini was free..

Sal

Sal

TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Salinsky wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:The National Organ Transplant Act was amended in 1988 to
specifically prohibit the sale of fetal tissue and organs. It states,
“It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly acquire, receive, or
otherwise transfer any human organ for valuable consideration for use in
human transplantation if the transfer affects interstate commerce.” The
Fetal Tissue Act also prohibits women from aborting their infants to
donate the tissue for financial gain, or to benefit a relative or
friend. The law is designed to remove any personal benefit from aborting
an infant.



See, Ol' Man Markle?

Not illegal.

Yup and that Lamborghini was free..

Those women on the tapes must've said 50 times that they weren't interested in profiting from the sale of fetal tissue.

But plied with alcohol, one of them makes an off color joke, and the useful idiots are forming a lynch mob.

Markle

Markle

Salinsky wrote:Necessary?

Necessary for what??

Fetal tissue is obviously an instrumental and useful resource or researchers such as Dr. Ben Carson wouldn't be using it.

Once again, Planned Parenthood hasn't been shown to have done anything unethical, much less illegal.

Here you go, Ol' Man Markle ....


Abortion is good for us all....LIES SALINSKY.    We Don’t Need Abortions for Vaccines or Stem Cells Bonbon-dbfbe36b2ab7e3e46f8bdbc19fcc3ada

Are you as weak as is Wordslinger so you find it necessary to ridicule others, as per Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals?

Dr. Carson’s statements explaining his role in the 1992 paper from the above interview:
“Well, I have not actually worked with fetal tissue. The left has put out information saying that I’ve done research on fetal tissues because my name appears on an article in which the pathologist compared specimens that I delivered from the operating room to some fetal tissues, in an attempt to decide which way the cells were being differentiated. You know, my part is to do the operation and supply the tissue. At that point, I move on to the next operation. So, to suggest that I’m in the laboratory actually doing the research, or retrieving fetal tissue, is nothing but propaganda.”

Sal

Sal

Markle wrote:
“Well, I have not actually worked with fetal tissue. The left has put out information saying that I’ve done research on fetal tissues because my name appears on an article in which the pathologist compared specimens that I delivered from the operating room to some fetal tissues, in an attempt to decide which way the cells were being differentiated. You know, my part is to do the operation and supply the tissue. At that point, I move on to the next operation. So, to suggest that I’m in the laboratory actually doing the research, or retrieving fetal tissue, is nothing but propaganda.”


Whoa ....

.... I hadn't seen that.

Man, if that word salad is the best explanation he could come up with ....

.... well, let's just say that his campaign has been terminated in its infancy.

boards of FL

boards of FL

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/politics/ben-carson-aborted-fetuses-research/


Carson defends his research on aborted fetuses


(CNN)Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson on Thursday defended his past use of tissue from aborted fetuses for medical research even as he continued to criticize Planned Parenthood.

The retired neurosurgeon said his research, which took place in 1992, does not conflict with his call to defund Planned Parenthood after several undercover videos surfaced that purportedly show officials with the organization working with research companies using tissue from aborted fetuses.

Jen Gunter, an obstetrician-gynecologist, wrote on her blog that Carson had co-authored an academic paper published in Hum Pathol, in which he described working with material "from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation."

In her blog post, Gunter sharply criticized the GOP presidential candidate.

"As a neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson knows full well that fetal tissue is essential for medical research," wrote Gunter, author of "The Preemie Primer," a guide for parents of premature babies.

"His discipline would have a hard time being where it is today without that kind of work. What is even more egregious than dismissing the multitude of researchers whose work allowed him to become a neurosurgeon is the hypocrisy of actually having done that research himself while spouting off about its supposed worthlessness."

Gunter wrote that fetal tissue research has recently helped develop a vaccine against Ebola and is currently being used to develop treatments for blindness, HIV and other illnesses.

On the campaign trail in Manchester, New Hampshire, Carson told CNN his research simply used the tissue from aborted fetuses that was made available to him.

"We have banked material in the pathology lab from people from every age -- from day 1 of concept to 120 years told. Those specimens are available for people who want to do comparisons," Carson said. "To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?"

Carson also issued a statement, saying, "There is absolutely no contradiction between the research I worked on in 1992 and my pro-life views. The issue of fetal tissue has everything to do with how the tissue is acquired. My primary responsibility in that research was operating on people to obtain diseased tissue for comparison to banked tissue samples. Killing babies and harvesting tissue for sale is very different than taking a dead specimen and keeping a record of it, which is exactly the source of the tissue used in our research."

And later Thursday, Carson went on Facebook to further defend his work.

"I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing," he said in a post. "Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study."

RELATED: Trump waffles on Planned Parenthood

Carson had previously told CNN that organs and tissue from aborted fetuses aren't needed for medical research.

"Virtually everything that can be attributed to progress by using fetal tissue can also use other types of tissue," he said. "If it were the only way to do something and there was no other way, there might be an argument. But under these circumstances, there isn't a legitimate argument."

Planned Parenthood has denied that it has broken any laws and said that it donates the tissue for medical research.


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Sal

Sal

His argument is that using aborted fetuses for research is wrong, but he didn't personally abort the fetus, so doing the research on it was OK.

A little convoluted, Dr. Carson, would you like to try again?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

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