More IRS Corruption

Guest · 1 More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 6:57 am

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/5/irs-knowingly-rehired-tax-cheats-audit/

The IRS rehired hundreds of employees who had prior records of bad performance at the agency, including 141 former workers who had botched their own tax returns and others who had used their positions to peek at private tax information, the agency’s inspector general said in a report released Thursday.

Five IRS employees were rehired even though the agency knew they had intentionally failed to file their taxes within the last two years, Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration J. Russell George said. Of the employees with prior problems, nearly 20 percent of them had more problems after they were rehired.

He also said the IRS seemed concerned that it could be breaking the law if it looked at a potential hire’s past behavior problems.

Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, chairman of the Senate Committee on Finance, said the report is stunning, coming the same week that President Obama proposed a massive increase in the IRS budget, including hiring 9,000 new agency workers.

2seaoat · 2 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 7:14 am

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Please define corruption.....you seemed confused with concepts. Hiring more IRS agents is a good investment for America.

Guest · 3 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 7:38 am

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If I wanted to try to help you understand concepts I would define "dense" for you... but your skull is too thick.

Sal · 4 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 9:08 am

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Underfund, cut staff, and over-task ....

.... then when they inevitably fuck up ....

.... claim malfeasance.

Recipe for stupid.

knothead · 5 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 10:38 am

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http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/features.nsf/Articles/C554F5D4A8F1E95C852579CD005418EC?OpenDocument

Excerpts:

" . . . . the IRS budget submission request 403 million in new IRS enforcement activities, which the commissioner says are expected to raise $1.48 billion in revenue annually at full performance."

' . . . . . the return on investment is 4.3 to 1. The return on investment is even greater, according to his -- quoting him, "when factoring in the deterrence value of these investments and other IRS enforcement programs, which is conservatively estimated to be at least three times the direct revenue impact." The enforcement budget also includes $200 million in additional examination and collection programs that will generate more than $1.1 billion in additional annual enforcement revenue by fiscal year 2015, again a 5 to 1 return."

2seaoat · 6 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:00 am

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Those that think government can run without revenue, always start with attacks on the IRS. PK has repeatedly claimed the IRS is corrupt.....he does not understand the concept, and yet after repeatedly posting nonsense.....he has nothing. Hiring more IRS agents is a good investment. We need to filter stupid out of the discussion.

knothead · 7 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:04 am

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I am not nearly as concerned with pkrs view as I am the GOP leadership who do not have the necessary political courage to confront what is obvious to a heathen like myself . . . . I remain befuddled as to why they have allowed the likes of Grover Norquist to corral them and hold them hostage to a losing strategy for America's success.

boards of FL · 8 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:08 am

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This may be the right wing non-story of the year right here. Incredibly vague, no real meaningful consequences presented, reported by a nut-job news source, and linked to us by a guy who can't speak substantively on any subject presented on this forum.

Check, check, check, and check.

Floridatexan · 9 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:13 am

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Rev. Sun Myung Moon and his wife, founders of the Washington Times

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q0.html

(the cult test)

knothead · 10 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:14 am

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boards of FL wrote:This may be the right wing non-story of the year right here. Incredibly vague, no real meaningful consequences presented, reported by a nut-job news source, and linked to us by a guy who can't speak substantively on any subject presented on this forum.

Check, check, check, and check.

meanwhile back in the jungle . . . . . the beat goes on and on . . .

gatorfan · 11 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:17 am

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It's not surprising to see the usual Obama apologists on here defending the IRS - an agency who in addition to rehiring tax dodgers and liars according to the IG report, also gives bonuses to their inept employees while crying about money shortfalls for operations. Why hasn't Obama confronted these issues?

"But other staffers rehired had documented conduct issues from previous tenures at the IRS, including purposefully not filing their taxes, wrongly authorizing taxpayer information and lying on official forms. Of those rehired, roughly one in five then went on to have further performance problems.

“Based on the types of prior performance and conduct issues we identified, rehiring certain employees presents increased risk to the IRS and taxpayers,” J. Russell George, the tax administration inspector general, said in a statement."

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/231938-irs-rehires-reprimanded-ex-staffers

Guest · 12 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:25 am

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boards of FL wrote:This may be the right wing non-story of the year right here. Incredibly vague, no real meaningful consequences presented, reported by a nut-job news source, and linked to us by a guy who can't speak substantively on any subject presented on this forum.

Check, check, check, and check.

Why don't you just say it... it doesn't matter? That nothing will ever matter while obama is the potus... literally nothing.

Floridatexan · 13 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:31 am

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chuck-marr/house-gops-irs-budget-cut_b_5589335.html

House GOP's IRS Budget Cuts: A Field Day for Tax Cheats

Chuck Marr,
Director, Federal Tax Policy, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

(9/14/2014)

"The IRS has absorbed big cuts in recent years that have weakened enforcement and damaged taxpayer service. The House Appropriations Committee passed a 2015 IRS budget that would cut the IRS even deeper. But that wasn't good enough for the full House, based on the cutting frenzy on the House floor over the last day.

The House approved a series of Republican amendments that, taken together with the cuts in the underlying bill, would shrink the IRS's enforcement budget in 2015 by more than $1.2 billion relative to 2014 funding. Under the House bill as it now stands, one-quarter of the IRS's enforcement budget from this year would be gone.

The IRS' core function is to collect revenue. But these amendments would further stifle its ability to do that. In its current form, the theme of the IRS funding bill seems to be: If you're an honest taxpayer, don't call us because we won't have the resources to answer the phone. And if you're a tax cheat, don't worry because we're won't have the resources to call you. As Rep. Jose Serrano (D-NY), the ranking member of the House Appropriations subcommittee that oversees the IRS, put it, "this will prevent the IRS from going after tax cheats... and from helping those who are attempting to obey the law."..."

knothead · 14 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:32 am

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gatorfan wrote:It's not surprising to see the usual Obama apologists on here defending the IRS - an agency who in addition to rehiring tax dodgers and liars according to the IG report, also gives bonuses to their inept employees while crying about money shortfalls for operations. Why hasn't Obama confronted these issues?

"But other staffers rehired had documented conduct issues from previous tenures at the IRS, including purposefully not filing their taxes, wrongly authorizing taxpayer information and lying on official forms. Of those rehired, roughly one in five then went on to have further performance problems.

“Based on the types of prior performance and conduct issues we identified, rehiring certain employees presents increased risk to the IRS and taxpayers,” J. Russell George, the tax administration inspector general, said in a statement."

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/231938-irs-rehires-reprimanded-ex-staffers

Obama apologist? You are a hoot for sure. However, the issues referred in your link are legitimate issues but they are administrative issues which each and every government department endure . . . . . nothing new but for the nexus of this discussion could you simply weigh in on the appropriateness of reducing the IRS budget to the point that the existing taxes cannot and will not be collected simply from a lack of resources because of the GOP's position of demonizing an agency critical to our nation whether we 'like' them or not . . . . they are critical. For every dollar in the budget for the IRS returns a minimum of 4.3 . . . . seems simple enough.

gatorfan · 15 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:42 am

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knothead wrote:

gatorfan wrote:It's not surprising to see the usual Obama apologists on here defending the IRS - an agency who in addition to rehiring tax dodgers and liars according to the IG report, also gives bonuses to their inept employees while crying about money shortfalls for operations. Why hasn't Obama confronted these issues?

"But other staffers rehired had documented conduct issues from previous tenures at the IRS, including purposefully not filing their taxes, wrongly authorizing taxpayer information and lying on official forms. Of those rehired, roughly one in five then went on to have further performance problems.

“Based on the types of prior performance and conduct issues we identified, rehiring certain employees presents increased risk to the IRS and taxpayers,” J. Russell George, the tax administration inspector general, said in a statement."

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/231938-irs-rehires-reprimanded-ex-staffers

Obama apologist? You are a hoot for sure. However, the issues referred in your link are legitimate issues but they are administrative issues which each and every government department endure . . . . . nothing new but for the nexus of this discussion could you simply weigh in on the appropriateness of reducing the IRS budget to the point that the existing taxes cannot and will not be collected simply from a lack of resources because of the GOP's position of demonizing an agency critical to our nation whether we 'like' them or not . . . . they are critical. For every dollar in the budget for the IRS returns a minimum of 4.3 . . . . seems simple enough.

That "sequestration thingy tar baby" is a bitch isn't it? It's like watching dominoes fall over. Do this and that happens.

Perhaps the IRS could reorganize to become more efficient. And quit giving out millions in bonuses.

knothead · 16 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:46 am

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gatorfan wrote:

knothead wrote:

gatorfan wrote:It's not surprising to see the usual Obama apologists on here defending the IRS - an agency who in addition to rehiring tax dodgers and liars according to the IG report, also gives bonuses to their inept employees while crying about money shortfalls for operations. Why hasn't Obama confronted these issues?

"But other staffers rehired had documented conduct issues from previous tenures at the IRS, including purposefully not filing their taxes, wrongly authorizing taxpayer information and lying on official forms. Of those rehired, roughly one in five then went on to have further performance problems.

“Based on the types of prior performance and conduct issues we identified, rehiring certain employees presents increased risk to the IRS and taxpayers,” J. Russell George, the tax administration inspector general, said in a statement."

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/231938-irs-rehires-reprimanded-ex-staffers

Obama apologist? You are a hoot for sure. However, the issues referred in your link are legitimate issues but they are administrative issues which each and every government department endure . . . . . nothing new but for the nexus of this discussion could you simply weigh in on the appropriateness of reducing the IRS budget to the point that the existing taxes cannot and will not be collected simply from a lack of resources because of the GOP's position of demonizing an agency critical to our nation whether we 'like' them or not . . . . they are critical. For every dollar in the budget for the IRS returns a minimum of 4.3 . . . . seems simple enough.

That "sequestration thingy tar baby" is a bitch isn't it? It's like watching dominoes fall over. Do this and that happens.

Perhaps the IRS could reorganize to become more efficient. And quit giving out millions in bonuses.

Well as an Obama apologist then I will simply say that the Obama administration is seeking to end sequestration . . . . is this news to you? lol

Floridatexan · 17 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 11:48 am

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http://www.newsobserver.com/2015/01/17/4482233/gop-punishes-the-irs-at-nations.html

GOP punishes the IRS at nation’s expense

January 17, 2015

"Internal Revenue Commissioner John Koskinen and his agency deserve better than they’ve gotten from the Republican-run Congress. The agency’s never been popular, of course, but current problems likely are largely the result of the agency’s missteps in trying to determine which nonprofit groups qualified for special tax exemption designations.

In the course of that effort, some agency workers used terms like “tea party” in sorting through the groups. An uproar from conservatives, claiming the IRS was after the tea party, ensued. The IRS was simply trying to enforce the law by indentifying groups that masquerade as tax-exempt “social welfare” organizations, but act on behalf of politicians and political campaigns..."

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2015/01/17/4482233/gop-punishes-the-irs-at-nations.html#storylink=cpy

gatorfan · 18 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 12:00 pm

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Floridatexan wrote:http://www.newsobserver.com/2015/01/17/4482233/gop-punishes-the-irs-at-nations.html

GOP punishes the IRS at nation’s expense

January 17, 2015

"Internal Revenue Commissioner John Koskinen and his agency deserve better than they’ve gotten from the Republican-run Congress. The agency’s never been popular, of course, but current problems likely are largely the result of the agency’s missteps in trying to determine which nonprofit groups qualified for special tax exemption designations.

In the course of that effort, some agency workers used terms like “tea party” in sorting through the groups. An uproar from conservatives, claiming the IRS was after the tea party, ensued. The IRS was simply trying to enforce the law by indentifying groups that masquerade as tax-exempt “social welfare” organizations, but act on behalf of politicians and political campaigns..."

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2015/01/17/4482233/gop-punishes-the-irs-at-nations.html#storylink=cpy

A story written 11 whole days after the GOP majority took over. Pray tell what was going in the Senate when the Dems had a majority for two years and both houses prior to that?

Unlike you partisan hacks I blame both sides of the aisle for being inept, corrupt buffoons.

The sooner everyone realizes the whole Congress is not doing business for the people of this country the better.

knothead · 19 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 12:10 pm

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gatorfan wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:http://www.newsobserver.com/2015/01/17/4482233/gop-punishes-the-irs-at-nations.html

GOP punishes the IRS at nation’s expense

January 17, 2015

"Internal Revenue Commissioner John Koskinen and his agency deserve better than they’ve gotten from the Republican-run Congress. The agency’s never been popular, of course, but current problems likely are largely the result of the agency’s missteps in trying to determine which nonprofit groups qualified for special tax exemption designations.

In the course of that effort, some agency workers used terms like “tea party” in sorting through the groups. An uproar from conservatives, claiming the IRS was after the tea party, ensued. The IRS was simply trying to enforce the law by indentifying groups that masquerade as tax-exempt “social welfare” organizations, but act on behalf of politicians and political campaigns..."

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2015/01/17/4482233/gop-punishes-the-irs-at-nations.html#storylink=cpy

A story written 11 whole days after the GOP majority took over. Pray tell what was going in the Senate when the Dems had a majority for two years and both houses prior to that?

Unlike you partisan hacks I blame both sides of the aisle for being inept, corrupt buffoons.

The sooner everyone realizes the whole Congress is not doing business for the people of this country the better.

This IS the business of Congress . . . . . fund the IRS!!!!!

Sal · 20 Re: More IRS Corruption 2/6/2015, 12:14 pm

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gatorfan wrote:

Unlike you partisan hacks I blame both sides of the aisle for being inept, corrupt buffoons.

The sooner everyone realizes the whole Congress is not doing business for the people of this country the better.

That's right, Skippy.

Generally speaking, both sides have their problems.

Better?

But, here we are specifically speaking to the IRS.

And, undermining and attacking the IRS is a GOP thing.

Try to stay on task.

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