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76"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 4:04 pm

2seaoat



Our incomes must vastly differ.

You're not understanding the 1031 years ago I thought had taught you something. Obviously I was mistaken.



I do not understand your post......my Chrissy google translate has been on the fritz, and now I will need to ask them to add a Stormy module......they gave up on the PK translator because his words like his paradigm disappear before translation can take place. Google sent me an email and apologized......they simply do not have enough computing power.....so help me a bit to understand your intention in the post.

77"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 5:30 pm

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We know you're the one that wrote all of the definitions and translations behind each and every possible google search.

Don't play humble seagoat. Baaaaaa

78"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 5:50 pm

2seaoat



me humble.......where have you been?

79"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 5:53 pm

VectorMan

VectorMan

PkrBum wrote:
2seaoat wrote: it appears that it's uninsured more that it's insured.

Correct?

Please be patient....it took me months to have google provide a Chrissy advanced translator, now I have to ask them to devise a PK translator........what does it appears that its uninsured more than its insured refer to.......what does the first ITS refer to, and what does the second ITS refer to.........google just told me to forget about it........

How many have lost coverage - the number of paid enrollees... and don't leave out the new to medicaid.

Is that a positive number or a negative number? I've been saying all along that the patient mix is the key.

Are you able to objectivly analyze this? The desire that this fail and morph into a unicorn of socialist medicare is underhanded.

It's not fair to keep presenting something that is not what is intended... where are your ethics? Sold for ideology apparently.

This is what the libtards were told and they bought it. Rainbows, butterflies and unicorns! LOL lol! 

"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Obamacard

I think its becoming more and more obvious to more and more voters that Obama is nothing more than a lying sack of shit.

But, that lying sack of shit OWNS Obamacare, lock, stock and barrel. It'll be good for his legacy! LOL

80"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 6:07 pm

2seaoat



I will agree with you when I meet one person who has lost coverage and could not find replacement policies. I have never met that person. Instead I have met or conversed on forums with over 20 people who are happy with the insurance they have secured. The expansion of Medicaid is huge for some families. The 2014 election will tell us who was right. I think you were saying this same stuff in 2008 and 2012.......I guess a three peat is in order.

81"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 6:24 pm

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2seaoat wrote:I will agree with you when I meet one person who has lost coverage and could not find replacement policies. I have never met that person. Instead I have met or conversed on forums with over 20 people who are happy with the insurance they have secured. The expansion of Medicaid is huge for some families. The 2014 election will tell us who was right. I think you were saying this same stuff in 2008 and 2012.......I guess a three peat is in order.

Since the passage of obamacare... do you suppose more people have gained private insurance... or lost it?

82"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 6:33 pm

2seaoat



Since the passage of obamacare... do you suppose more people have gained private insurance... or lost it?


I have zero doubt that more people are covered by Medicaid and private insurance policies than before the law was passed. Zero doubt. People are getting covered at record levels. You can attempt to distort the facts any way you want. Heck, even those Republican governors are now realizing that the millions they have denied coverage may have been a mistake. It is a landslide and you cannot do a thing to stop the same.........but cherish the last two months when it was a couple of boulders and a little bit of snow.....it grows as we speak and once let loose......it will never go back.

83"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 6:39 pm

2seaoat



Here is the trend on those states who initially said no to expansion of medicaid under the affordable care act........read it and weep. This will spread like wildfire in 2014 as 2 million now have insurance who previously did not.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/12/26/257374213/iowa-opens-the-doors-to-medicaid-coverage-on-its-own-terms

84"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 6:45 pm

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http://www.hawaiireporter.com/hawaii-obamacare-exchange-not-fiscally-sustainable-lawmakers-told/123

http://mobile.dudamobile.com/site/oregoncatalyst?url=http%3A%2F%2Foregoncatalyst.com%2F25790-decoding-obamacare-enrollment-numbers.html#3046

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/12/19/25-of-obamacares-state-based-exchange-heads-have-resigned-or-taken-medical-leave-more-sure-to-follow/

"Leaders of the Minnesota,Maryland,and Hawaii exchanges have all resigned. The executive director of the Oregon exchange took medical leave in early December with no announced return date. And in a u-turn,after severe criticism,the executive director of the Colorado exchange backed off her request for a year-end bonus. So who could be next to face increased scrutiny?

I have been tracking enrollment numbers by state at UncoverObamacare.com. I pulled up what percentage of expected first year enrollees have selected a plan in these state-based exchanges,click on the table for a full-size version.) (Note: The numbers below are covered lives not applications.). Using this as a proxy of efficacy,it would seem that the heat should be on in New Mexico,Massachusetts,Idaho,DC,Nevada,Colorado,and probably Vermont if they really are striving for an all-in single-payer system in the exchange."

85"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/26/2013, 7:02 pm

2seaoat



I get a kick out of your selective silence.....the amazing private sector is delivering packages five days late with UPS and FED EX, but you use a December 12 date to gage the sign ups.....sorry it is a growing demand and if FED ex cannot deliver timely Christmas gifts, do you think government was going to deliver as expected.....probably not, but there is still growing demand and growing sign ups with almost 4 million medicaid, and probably in march 5 million on the individual plans or about 2 million short of the goal, but almost 10 million people covered by March......can you say success.

86"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/27/2013, 12:06 am

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:I get a kick out of your selective silence.....the amazing private sector is delivering packages five days late with UPS and FED EX, but you use a December 12 date to gage the sign ups.....sorry it is a growing demand and if FED ex cannot deliver timely Christmas gifts, do you think government was going to deliver as expected.....probably not, but there is still growing demand and growing sign ups with almost 4 million medicaid, and probably in march 5 million on the individual plans or about 2 million short of the goal, but almost 10 million people covered by March......can you say success.

Those must be some really, really special drugs you're taking!

"I" word talk grows - Page 4 StalinObamaCare

87"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/27/2013, 12:22 am

2seaoat



Control is secondary to health care. In the absence of health care, most folks do not care who controls something they need......they just want that need satisfied. You try to make socialism a dirty word, and taxes equal socialism and cooperative effort is socialism. Sorry, medicare works. Medicare for all will work, and a three percent sales tax will fund the same.....so everybody will pay, and everybody will have medicare for all. Secondary markets with private insurance companies will still allow a vibrant free market, but the efficiency and success of medicare will finally solve our problems.

88"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/27/2013, 7:31 am

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2seaoat wrote:Control is secondary to health care.  In the absence of health care, most folks do not care who controls something they need......they just want that need satisfied.   You try to make socialism a dirty word, and taxes equal socialism and cooperative effort is socialism.  Sorry, medicare works.  Medicare for all will work, and a three percent sales tax will fund the same.....so everybody will pay, and everybody will have medicare for all.  Secondary markets with private insurance companies will still allow a vibrant free market, but the efficiency and success of medicare will finally solve our problems.

that's exactly why its the perfect way to control people.  Rolling Eyes 

medicare works. Medicaid doesn't so much. both are broke. and how many times do you have to be told, Obama is NOT trying or going to attempt to create a single payer system. sebelius said so recently.

and
Utter Chaos: White House Exempts Millions From Obamacare's Insurance Mandate, 'Unaffordable' Exchanges

The administration has, in effect, declared that Obamacare’s regulations are themselves a “hardship” worthy of mass exemption.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/12/20/utter-chaos-white-house-exempts-millions-from-obamacares-insurance-mandate-unaffordable-exchanges/

more people have lost insurance than have gained it.

and I for one would appreciate if you would start backing up your claims with some data and links. all this shit just cause seaoat said it don't fly.

89"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/27/2013, 9:17 am

stormwatch89

stormwatch89

2seaoat wrote:Our incomes must vastly differ.

You're not understanding the 1031 years ago I thought had taught you something. Obviously I was mistaken.



I do not understand your post......my Chrissy google translate has been on the fritz, and now I will need to ask them to add a Stormy module......they gave up on the PK translator because his words like his paradigm disappear before translation can take place.  Google sent me an email and apologized......they simply do not have enough computing power.....so help me a bit to understand your intention in the post.

You shouldn't need a translator, but reading the tax code might help.

35% to 39.6 tax rate
3.8 medicare investment tax
.9 medicare health insurance tax
loss of state and local sales tax deductions

For a brief overview.

Still 47% pay nothing.

How high do you want to go to effectively redistribute the wealth?

90"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/27/2013, 9:43 am

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by 2seaoat Yesterday at 6:02 pm
I get a kick out of your selective silence.....the amazing private sector is delivering packages five days late with UPS and FED EX, but you use a December 12 date to gage the sign ups.....sorry it is a growing demand and if FED ex cannot deliver timely Christmas gifts, do you think government was going to deliver as expected.....probably not, but there is still growing demand and growing sign ups with almost 4 million medicaid, and probably in march 5 million on the individual plans or about 2 million short of the goal, but almost 10 million people covered by March......can you say success.
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So one day a year UPS and FedEx struggle and you want to compare that with Obamacare which has progressed through how many deadlines now? Lol, you and Obamacare are both jokes.

91"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/27/2013, 9:44 am

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More have lost healthcare under the ACA than have gained.

92"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/27/2013, 9:48 am

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Obamacare will be cheaper. LIE

You can keep your doctor if you like. LIE

You have to meet deadline a,b,c,d,e LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE

The Obamacare website is safe to use. LIE

93"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/27/2013, 10:31 am

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PACEDOG#1 wrote:Obamacare will be cheaper. LIE

You can keep your doctor if you like. LIE

You have to meet deadline a,b,c,d,e LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE

The Obamacare website is safe to use. LIE

I seem to remember something about saving $2,500 a year too. The law should be repealed just for false advertising.

94"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/29/2013, 8:05 pm

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Bump

95"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/29/2013, 11:12 pm

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yeah, they are using the "I" word as a DNC campaign scare to get people to give them money.

96"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/30/2013, 12:46 am

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:I will agree with you when I meet one person who has lost coverage and could not find replacement policies.  I have never met that person.  Instead I have met or conversed on forums with over 20 people who are happy with the insurance they have secured.   The expansion of Medicaid is huge for some families.   The 2014 election will tell us who was right.   I think you were saying this same stuff in 2008 and 2012.......I guess a three peat is in order.


As you WELL know, your anecdotal evidence is worthless.  Probably, less than worthless.

Here are the FACTS 2seaoat, not reports from your family.

The Obama Administration announced today that 1.1 million Americans have signed up for Obamacare so far.


That number includes the number who have signed up for the taxpayer-funded Medicaid part of the plan.

As of December 11, 2013–
Over 800,000 Americans signed up for the taxpayer-funded Medicaid program.


Approximately 365,000 signed up for Obamacare.

"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Obamacare-dec-numbers2013

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/white-house-only-1-1-million-have-signed-up-for-obamacare-while-5-million-have-lost-their-plans/

97"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/30/2013, 11:28 am

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Seaoat is easily
Confused by facts

98"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/30/2013, 12:08 pm

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Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:I will agree with you when I meet one person who has lost coverage and could not find replacement policies.  I have never met that person.  Instead I have met or conversed on forums with over 20 people who are happy with the insurance they have secured.   The expansion of Medicaid is huge for some families.   The 2014 election will tell us who was right.   I think you were saying this same stuff in 2008 and 2012.......I guess a three peat is in order.


As you WELL know, your anecdotal evidence is worthless.  Probably, less than worthless.

Here are the FACTS 2seaoat, not reports from your family.

The Obama Administration announced today that 1.1 million Americans have signed up for Obamacare so far.


That number includes the number who have signed up for the taxpayer-funded Medicaid part of the plan.

As of December 11, 2013–
Over 800,000 Americans signed up for the taxpayer-funded Medicaid program.


Approximately 365,000 signed up for Obamacare.

"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Obamacare-dec-numbers2013

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/white-house-only-1-1-million-have-signed-up-for-obamacare-while-5-million-have-lost-their-plans/

what a disaster.

the wailing has begun................

1. people thought it was free
2. people lost thier ins
3. people think they have ins and find out they dont

there is a massive coverup of how bad things are with this.

99"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/30/2013, 5:28 pm

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When the riots start over lack of healthcare or the astronomical costs in deductibles, it will be on

100"I" word talk grows - Page 4 Empty Re: "I" word talk grows 12/30/2013, 10:51 pm

2seaoat



That number includes the number who have signed up for the taxpayer-funded Medicaid part of the plan.


You are wrong.  Medicaid sign ups were not included in that one million figure.  They had hoped for 3.2 million and they are just a little over one million in individuals, not including expanded Medicaid.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/06/new-medicaid-enrollment-healthcare/3453929/

read and weep with the terrible thing that people are getting coverage.  Medicare for all has always been the goal, and when the three year bump from the feds is gone and the state's have to cover the 10% currently being paid.....Hillary will have a calk walk to get Medicare for all passed.   Try taking away health care from people......that is why all the whines about the numbers.....they think everything stops on January 1......read the link and howl.


As of December 11, 2013– Your numbers are wrong. They were good a month ago.

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