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Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/30/2013, 6:37 pm
Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/30/2013, 7:01 pm Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/30/2013, 7:33 pmYou simply just do not know what you are talking about. but carry on in your fantasy, because that's all it is and no amount of proof will ever make you understand something you just absolutely know ZERO about.2seaoat wrote:I guess I am perplexed. I want medicare for all. The current system is a heritage foundation creation started in Ma. It is private companies providing insurance to people. Just like the private companies who provide liability insurance mandated under state law. This law properly shifts individual responsibility back on people who should take care of their business. A tax is enacted to allow those who do not choose to be responsible will pay. The cycle of medical inflation will be slowed,and finally we will start to get a handle on what represents almost 18% of our GDP.
I personally think this is an unnecessary delay on what this country should have which is medicare for all, with new revenue sources, and significant costs savings for government. I have dealt with families who have lost loved ones by an uninsured driver, yet the damage done to society by the uninsured in health care carries just as serious ramifications. Until we agree on the revenue sources for medicare for all, we are stuck with this imperfect legislation, but even with all its blemishes.....it is a path of improvement.
Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/30/2013, 8:50 pm
Why didn't they just come down on the insurance companies with a law and straighten them out and make them lower the price--problem solved people would buy it then ---people want health ins--they just want to be able to afford it !2seaoat wrote:I guess I am perplexed. I want medicare for all. The current system is a heritage foundation creation started in Ma. It is private companies providing insurance to people. Just like the private companies who provide liability insurance mandated under state law. This law properly shifts individual responsibility back on people who should take care of their business. A tax is enacted to allow those who do not choose to be responsible will pay. The cycle of medical inflation will be slowed,and finally we will start to get a handle on what represents almost 18% of our GDP.
I personally think this is an unnecessary delay on what this country should have which is medicare for all, with new revenue sources, and significant costs savings for government. I have dealt with families who have lost loved ones by an uninsured driver, yet the damage done to society by the uninsured in health care carries just as serious ramifications. Until we agree on the revenue sources for medicare for all, we are stuck with this imperfect legislation, but even with all its blemishes.....it is a path of improvement.
Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/30/2013, 9:15 pmMost insurance works this way: a large group of people pay regularly into a “pool”, from which claims are paid. The idea is that the majority of the group of people will not need to file a claim, or if they do file a claim, it will not be often or for a large $ amount. This allows the pool to be available to pay someone’s very large claim, or multiple claims. The private health insurers use experts (actuaries), and statistics to know how much each policy needs to cost - enough to be able to pay the claims, operating expenses and make a profit. It has been this way for a long time. They are the experts. Asking (or telling) the healthcare insurance industry to “just lower your prices” is not going to work. Look at it like this: if a Ford Fusion costs $12,000 to make and the owners want to make a profit of $1,000 on each sale means that a Ford Fusion will cost the buyer $13,000. If the government steps in and says “more people should have the right to buy a Ford Fusion, and it needs to cost the people only $8,000, because $13,000 is just too much and a lot of people just can’t afford it”, and then forces Ford to sell its Fusion for $8,000, can you guess what will happen? Probably Ford will cease to make the Fusion because it cannot make it for $8,000, not to mention any profit.cool1 wrote:Why didn't they just come down on the insurance companies with a law and straighten them out and make them lower the price--problem solved people would buy it then ---people want health ins--they just want to be able to afford it !2seaoat wrote:I guess I am perplexed. I want medicare for all. The current system is a heritage foundation creation started in Ma. It is private companies providing insurance to people. Just like the private companies who provide liability insurance mandated under state law. This law properly shifts individual responsibility back on people who should take care of their business. A tax is enacted to allow those who do not choose to be responsible will pay. The cycle of medical inflation will be slowed,and finally we will start to get a handle on what represents almost 18% of our GDP.
I personally think this is an unnecessary delay on what this country should have which is medicare for all, with new revenue sources, and significant costs savings for government. I have dealt with families who have lost loved ones by an uninsured driver, yet the damage done to society by the uninsured in health care carries just as serious ramifications. Until we agree on the revenue sources for medicare for all, we are stuck with this imperfect legislation, but even with all its blemishes.....it is a path of improvement.
why tax this tax that and make men carry maternity and all that crap --That would be like car ins--they would have to compete for business !
I don't understand what the big deal is --If they came down on ins-companies it would have saved all the money they put out on all this .
one paper one law --all ins companies you have to do this and that ---people would sign up-It wouldn't have to be mandated then.
The only reason people don't have it is because its to high --make all ins--companies lower prices and people would sign up. People don't go without ins--unless they have to.
I don't think it should be the other way around --punish the people by not being able to keep the plans they are in ! Make the plans lower there cost .
Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/30/2013, 9:53 pm Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/30/2013, 11:08 pm...and we will stay pay for it in subsidies..so what is your point?Dreamsglore wrote:People don't go w/o insurance because they have to. They go w/o insurance because they want to. It's a matter of choices and they take the risk they won't get sick. It is more important to them to pay for cell phones then to have preventative care. When they have an illness or surgery then the rest of the people can pay for their care.
Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/31/2013, 12:04 am
Socialism and shared MISERY for all right 2seaoat?2seaoat wrote:I guess I am perplexed. I want medicare for all. The current system is a heritage foundation creation started in Ma. It is private companies providing insurance to people. Just like the private companies who provide liability insurance mandated under state law. This law properly shifts individual responsibility back on people who should take care of their business. A tax is enacted to allow those who do not choose to be responsible will pay. The cycle of medical inflation will be slowed,and finally we will start to get a handle on what represents almost 18% of our GDP.
I personally think this is an unnecessary delay on what this country should have which is medicare for all, with new revenue sources, and significant costs savings for government. I have dealt with families who have lost loved ones by an uninsured driver, yet the damage done to society by the uninsured in health care carries just as serious ramifications. Until we agree on the revenue sources for medicare for all, we are stuck with this imperfect legislation, but even with all its blemishes.....it is a path of improvement.
Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/31/2013, 8:22 am Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/31/2013, 8:33 am Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/31/2013, 8:41 am Re: Sabelius --speaks 10/31/2013, 10:21 amYou may pay for some in subsidies but you won't pay for all who bought $200 worth of cell phones rather than health insurance. Do you not get that,Einsetin?PACEDOG#1 wrote:...and we will stay pay for it in subsidies..so what is your point?Dreamsglore wrote:People don't go w/o insurance because they have to. They go w/o insurance because they want to. It's a matter of choices and they take the risk they won't get sick. It is more important to them to pay for cell phones then to have preventative care. When they have an illness or surgery then the rest of the people can pay for their care.
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