1 in 5 readmitted on Medicare, and the Affordable care Act holds them accountable

The hospitals who have been screwing up are going to be penalized under the Affordable Care Act.........Bill Mahr has excellent guests and this is the first time I have heard that there is finally teeth to go after bad hospitals. Finally.

Quality care can never happen if people get abused and there is no accountability as the Union protects doctors and hospitals.......finally, we are going to identify the quality failures.

35 million people with preexisting conditions can now get insurance to cover those conditions. The people are going to finally see daylight, and 2.3% medical device tax supports 30 billion into the Act, and a 13k device is paid 20k and we think it is bad to tax these folks who are profiting on sick people.

yeah....  

bad docs/hospitals...good gov... whoo hooo

bad docs/hospitals...good gov... whoo hooo

Not all......but enough to finally have mechanisms to extract the same from the system. There certainly will be more hospital closings, or there will be improvements in their infection rates, and malpractice rates. Peer review in the end is the only solution to the problems, but if the problems no longer can pull a profit and operate.......improvement.

When you have three hospitals in a metropolitan area, folks have to sell their hospital as being clean, smart, and effective. So many of the tv ads I am seeing in local tv is each hospital trying to convince folks that they are better, but there are some hospitals I would not take my dog to the emergency room.

When one of these death traps is running ads about their recognized quality......you hope somebody will objectively make improvements or close the bad places down.

So according to 2seaoat, my far left Progressive good friend, by lowering the pay to doctors and hospitals...they will provide better service.

When did competition stop being good for everyone?

As for infections, you might want to check on the facilities in the countries you admire the most.  I mean at sources other than your homepage, the DailyKOS.

Sorry Mr. Markle, you can try to dismiss my common sense as the rantings of a far left but I am a respected Republican who has more Republicans like myself who have rejected the takeover of this party by your handlers and dixiecrats. Health care inflation over the last 20 years outstripped all other areas of the economy, and now you argue that cost cutting is not necessary. Sorry, real Republicans and not shills for the Oligarchy want to see efficiency and wise government spending. They do not want to see special interests buy newspapers, media, and have people on forums and the internet spewing nonsense that health care costs cannot be cut. Sorry, we have given a blank check to the health care providers. The medical device folks make 10k off a hip implant and there is little or no competition or regulation in your dream of a free market where the price escalation has no counterweight......well the affordable care act is that counterweight, and your handlers will have less money to pay you to rip off the American people. The people will win this battle, and the middle class in this country will stop the decline.

2seaoat wrote:Sorry Mr. Markle, you can try to dismiss my common sense as the rantings of a far left but I am a respected Republican who has more Republicans like myself who have rejected the takeover of this party by your handlers and dixiecrats.  Health care inflation over the last 20 years outstripped all other areas of the economy, and now you argue that cost cutting is not necessary.  Sorry, real Republicans and not shills for the Oligarchy want to see efficiency and wise government spending.   They do not want to see special interests buy newspapers, media, and have people on forums and the internet spewing nonsense that health care costs cannot be cut.  Sorry, we have given a blank check to the health care providers.  The medical device folks make 10k off a hip implant and there is little or no competition or regulation in your dream of a free market where the price escalation has no counterweight......well the affordable care act is that counterweight, and your handlers will have less money to pay you to rip off the American people.   The people will win this battle, and the middle class in this country will stop the decline.

the people will win this battle? which people? the middle class? who many of those work FOR healthcare companies.... are you aware of this?

Middle class? what happened to lots of those middle class people? theres fewer now. I wonder what happened to them?

oh and the medical device problem youre so concerned about because you feel those people make too much money too.  well, eve the left wants that repealed because its just pushing more jobs over seas.

I see now, what you really seek is social justice. and whats funny about your stance is your the direct beneficiary of mega dollars being siphoned off into pharm companies who make BIG paychecks. Your shots of which benefit few, but cost a lot. Do you think things like that should be leaned out? and are you willing to give them up if you could so the cost on the system could go towards paying for other less fortunate than you? Or are you only selfless with other peoples lives and money?

The American people are overloading the servers.......sorry but folks are voting in the booth, and on the web sites. You folks who said the president would lose in 2008, 2012, and the supreme court would find the law unconstitutional have been wrong on everything for years.......why change.

2seaoat wrote:The American people are overloading the servers.......sorry but folks are voting in the booth, and on the web sites.   You folks who said the president would lose in 2008, 2012, and the supreme court would find the law unconstitutional have been wrong on everything for years.......why change.

They are not signing up though hits---and signing up are two diff things

2seaoat wrote:The American people are overloading the servers.......sorry but folks are voting in the booth, and on the web sites.   You folks who said the president would lose in 2008, 2012, and the supreme court would find the law unconstitutional have been wrong on everything for years.......why change.

DUCK AND WEAVE SEAOAT.. duck and weave LOL

The young people are saying screw that were not signing up:shock: 
so just keep pissing the people off and we will never ever never  ever vote dem--in again--just keep pissing off the vets--mothers with children--keep screwing the people ---Were not stupid we see rep---trying to fund this stuff --and Obama saying no ----yea keep it up Dems---I still say lock both sides up and not let them out till the government --we see Obama games right now and its not working --People can see this

I posted to all of you if we had a vote for the people not them an open down vote and didn't get an answer WHY!   Because yall know the people vote would kill Obama care and you know it!

Just because you vote for a president doesn't say you agree on every dang thing he wants to do.

President Obama won yes --If he told you you must jump off a bridge are ya gonna do it NO.

I voted for Johnson. I have never voted for a democrat for president. People here call me a liar, but that is the truth. The truth also is the the Affordable Care Act in addressing preexisting conditions is a huge huge and popular success with the American people. Now if you want to support a 28 year old free loader who drives his motorcycle off the road and sustains injuries which put him in the hospital for a month......I like the idea of him paying for his care through insurance, and not having the taxpayer pick up the tab. That used to be a major tenet of Republicans. Now when this core of self reliance and responsibility is adopted by a Democrat, it becomes an abomination. Sorry there are adults in this discussion and there are children. Fortunately, the adults have carried the day, and the children are throwing a tantrum costing this nation 300 million a day. The children will be disciplined in 2014, but until then traditional republicans have to deal with the tantrum.

2seaoat wrote:When you have three hospitals in a metropolitan area, folks have to sell their hospital as being clean, smart, and effective.  So many of the tv ads I am seeing in local tv is each hospital trying to convince folks that they are better, but there are some hospitals I would not take my dog to the emergency room.

When one of these death traps is running ads about their recognized quality......you hope somebody will objectively make improvements or close the bad places down.

Thank you.

2seaoat wrote:Sorry Mr. Markle, you can try to dismiss my common sense as the rantings of a far left but I am a respected Republican who has more Republicans like myself who have rejected the takeover of this party by your handlers and dixiecrats.  Health care inflation over the last 20 years outstripped all other areas of the economy, and now you argue that cost cutting is not necessary.  Sorry, real Republicans and not shills for the Oligarchy want to see efficiency and wise government spending.   They do not want to see special interests buy newspapers, media, and have people on forums and the internet spewing nonsense that health care costs cannot be cut.  Sorry, we have given a blank check to the health care providers.  The medical device folks make 10k off a hip implant and there is little or no competition or regulation in your dream of a free market where the price escalation has no counterweight......well the affordable care act is that counterweight, and your handlers will have less money to pay you to rip off the American people.   The people will win this battle, and the middle class in this country will stop the decline.

]The medical device folks make 10k off a hip implant and there is little or no competition or regulation in your dream of a free market where the price escalation has no counterweight...


Bull shit. The implants do not cost that much. Insurance companies and hospitals control which vendors they will negotiate with for the lowest price, not which implant is better for the patient or physician preference.

[quote="2seaoat"]I voted for Johnson.  I have never voted for a democrat for president.  People here call me a liar, but that is the truth.  The truth also is the the Affordable Care Act in addressing preexisting conditions is a huge huge and popular success with the American people.   Now if you want to support a 28 year old free loader who drives his motorcycle off the road and sustains injuries which put him in the hospital for a month......I like the idea of him paying for his care through insurance, and not having the taxpayer pick up the tab.  That used to be a major tenet of Republicans.  Now when this core of self reliance and responsibility is adopted by a Democrat, it becomes an abomination.   Sorry there are adults in this discussion and there are children.   Fortunately, the adults have carried the day, and the children are throwing a tantrum costing this nation 300 million a day.   The children will be disciplined in 2014, but until then traditional republicans have to deal with the tantrum.[/quote


say what you want people are not going to sign up for the crap!

Heheeee....I have to tell on myself here.

Years ago, I starred in one of those hospital ads on TV. For who knows what reason, Ellis Bullock liked me. I suppose I'm a fairly good actress, so the ad did turn out well.

My Mom was proud. I was embarrassed.....I felt like a prostitute.

My closing line in the ad was "I'm on call for your call (big, sexy over-the-shoulder smile here)."

It took me a long time to live that one down!  

I wanna see the ad! 

I did one years and years ago for a Fox Network documentry. I never saw it. WFH did an ad for the ER....I wore a T-shirt with a bandaid and the slogan..."When a bandaid isn't enough"

say what you want people are not going to sign up for the crap!


Then they will pay the tax. The days of freeloaders is over.

2seaoat wrote:say what you want people are not going to sign up for the crap!


Then they will pay the tax.  The days of freeloaders is over.

LOL... the freeloaders are going to be mad.

[quote="2seaoat"]say what you want people are not going to sign up for the crap!


Then they will pay the tax.  The days of freeloaders is over.[/quot
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So they will pay the tax! Now wont they!  
Id rather pay the tax then to sign up for something they don't even know how to fix

So they will pay the tax! Now wont they!
Id rather pay the tax then to sign up for something they don't even know how to fix


That is the beauty of this system. You have a free choice. The taxpayers win, and finally deadbeats are being held responsible for their choices. Responsibility is a bitch. That is a fundamental Republican concept, but the crazies have stolen the debate, and have made responsibility into some socialistic concept. Hardly. Deadbeats pay. It cannot get better.

2seaoat wrote:So they will pay the tax! Now wont they!  
Id rather pay the tax then to sign up for something they don't even know how to fix


That is the beauty of this system.  You have a free choice.  The taxpayers win, and finally deadbeats are being held responsible for their choices.   Responsibility is a bitch.  That is a fundamental Republican concept, but the crazies have stolen the debate, and have made responsibility into some socialistic concept.  Hardly.  Deadbeats pay.   It cannot get better.

LOL the deadbeats pay.. The left is going to be so mad. It cant get any better LMAO!