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Meet the Federal Contractor Who Hired the Navy Yard Shooter

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TEOTWAWKI
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Sal

Sal

This is what happens when you privatize everything ...

Meet Thomas E Hoshko. He’s the CEO of The Experts, a infotech and telecom contractor which hired mass shooter Aaron Alexis, which the firm was working as a subcontractor for HP Enterprise Services, in turn a subsidiary of Hewlett-Packard Co. Alexis appears to have been hired by The Experts ‘Federal Solutions Division’

As in often the case with contractors with prime connections into the Pentagon, Hoshko himself appears to have started there before moving into the contracting business. His bio lists the following Pentagon experience

   Directed operations of the Special Intelligence Communications Center for the Chief of Naval Operations, Director of Naval Intelligence and Joint Chiefs of Staff, including but not limited to, secure communications (DMS) , satcom and cryptography for the DOD, NSA, White House and intel agencies.

This morning a reader sent me this article in MegaYacht News, The Trusted Source for Information on Megayachts, Builders, Designers, and Owners. It describes how Hoshko chartered the $44,500 per week Milk Money around the 2010 Super Bowl to entertain his firm’s clients with tickets to the Super Bowl in Miami and time on this magnificent 110 foot yacht.

From the article …

   You might think that with 12 years of experience chartering yachts, Hoshko and his wife would be hard to please. Not only did they enjoy themselves, but Hoshko says that what the crew did each day, especially on Super Bowl Sunday, was “perfect.” He had bought tickets for his clients to enjoy the game, and he and Louellen remained onboard Milk Money at the Diplomat Resort, up the Intracoastal Waterway in Hollywood, to have their own party. “They did a Super Bowl cake and all that kind of stuff,” he says. The crew (see above) also set up a TV on the aft deck, letting guests flow from there straight through the open doors of the saloon to continue watching the action. Even when they headed to the flying-bridge bar for a drink, they were still close to the rest of the party. Hoshko echoed what Saia and other top charter brokers always say about yacht charter: “What makes it always is the captain and the chef and the crew. They were impeccable. We had a good time.”

   That good time actually began two days prior to the Super Bowl, when Milk Money hosted a cocktail reception dockside at the Diplomat Resort. The next day, the megayacht’s 26-foot Regulator fishboat, 18-foot Novurania, banana boat, and other toys were trotted out for everyone to enjoy. The crew prepared a barbecue later in the day, too. Following the Super Bowl, Milk Money headed to Fisher Island for more business and, of course, pleasure. The Hoshkos particularly liked the California king bed in the main-deck master, as well as the overall recently refitted interior.


Meet the Federal Contractor Who Hired the Navy Yard Shooter Milk-m10

(The Milk Money (formerly ‘Rainmaker’), built by Westport motor yacht in 2001, based in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.)

Welcome to the world of federal contracting, a world where we’ve seen numerous times how relatively small operators can cultivate key government figures who control contract assignment (perhaps the clients who got the Yacht and Super Bowl treatment described above) and make fabulous amounts of money on the federal dime, while often providing substandard service or services that might as easily be had found a civilian workforce or members of the Armed Services themselves.

To be clear, there is zero evidence of any wrongdoing on Hoshko’s part and he and his company were quick to express their condolences for Alexis’s mass shooting.

But how exactly did Alexis ever get a clearance to work for the US military. Alexis left the Navy Reserves without an honorable discharge because of a “pattern of misconduct”, always a black mark on a record which can make future employment difficult. Alexis also had two prior gun related incidents over the last ten years - one in Texas in 2010 and another in Seattle in 2004. And today comes word that since August the VA had been treating Alexis for a series of mental disorders included paranoia, sleep disorders and hearing voices.

There are lots of reasons, many of them good, why you don’t get a security clearance pulled for seeking treatment for mental illness. But this seem like fairly extreme presentations, especially coupled with an earlier history of gun violence.

So again, how did Aaron Alexis ever get hired for this kind of military contracting work or pass the background check required for such employment? Hoshko told the Journal that Alexis had a secret security clearance from 2007 and that it had recently been re-approved. But we also know that the crush of federal contracting that has led to dramatically reduced standards for these background checks and checks themselves are now routinely outsourced to still other contractors. The case of Edward Snowden is obviously dramatically different than Alexis. But both show up some pretty big holes in the clearance system.

Again, Hoshko clearly is not responsible for Alexis’ rampage. But he does appear to be a prime part of the DOD contracting nexus which provides tax payers questionable value but enriches the contractors, with privileged access to the decision-makers, with fabulous wealth.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/09/meet_thomas_e_hoshko_hes.php

Nekochan

Nekochan

If the shooter had a secret security clearance, as is now being reported, it was issued by the government, not the civilian contractor.   

Clearly, a madman hell bent on killing is going to be able to kill if he is set on killing, but if this man was issued a security clearance by the government, the DOD needs to rethink how it processes clearances.

Guest


Guest

Where's the tsa when we need them? Entry into all gun free zones should be met by invasive searches... there fixed.

Nekochan

Nekochan

It used to take easily a year or more to receive a security clearance, which was a ridiculously long time.  In the years after 911, the process was streamlined and made faster.

Sal

Sal

Nekochan wrote:It used to take easily a year or more to receive a security clearance, which was a ridiculously long time.  In the years after 911, the process was streamlined and made faster.

That sounds suspiciously like a background check ...

TYRANNY!!!

Nekochan

Nekochan

Sal wrote:
Nekochan wrote:It used to take easily a year or more to receive a security clearance, which was a ridiculously long time.  In the years after 911, the process was streamlined and made faster.

That sounds suspiciously like a background check ...

TYRANNY!!!
It's a background check and much more.  I don't know how the investigation is done today, but investigators used to visit friends and neighbors and ask them questions about the applicant's private life.  I was visited by a couple of agents many years ago regarding the clearance on an active duty friend/neighbor of mine.  They asked me questions about the guy's drug and alcohol use, his temperament and his general mental health.  I was pretty surprised at the range of questions they asked me.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Sounds suspiciously like .......

Government ineptitude !

Guest


Guest

I would say that part of the problem is over Classification.  Every thing now seems to be classified in some manner or fashion. As a result more people have to be "cleared" just to do a simple job that really does not need to be classified.
At one time "top Secret" clearances were very labor intensive and required a minimum of 3 months to be processed.  ..The rejection rate was high.
I know in my case they came and interviewed many of my teachers, friends and places I had worked.

Nekochan

Nekochan

Mr Ichi wrote:I would say that part of the problem is over Classification.  Every thing now seems to be classified in some manner or fashion. As a result more people have to be "cleared" just to do a simple job that really does not need to be classified.
At one time "top Secret" clearances were very labor intensive and required a minimum of 3 months to be processed.  ..The rejection rate was high.
I know in my case they came and interviewed many of my teachers, friends and places I had worked.
 I think that just to do any kind of work on a military base now.....landscape work, construction work, etc....requires some sort of background check or clearance.  That's what I have heard.   Sometimes the government goes so overboard in some requirements that it cannot see the forest for the trees.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Laws yup that solves everything..we have embarrassingly more people in prison than any other country even China with 2 billion people has far less people in prison. Yes we need more dumbassed laws...I wonder how they kept kids from drinking when there was no law against it..oh their Daddy might whoop their ass but today it is far more civilized to imprison them in a butt rape prison...

Guest


Guest

Guess I am missing something. I dont see the Correlation between laws and prisons and Security clearances.

Sal

Sal

Mr Ichi wrote:Guess I am missing something.  I dont see the  Correlation between laws and prisons and Security clearances.

I think he's in the wrong thread.

Who forgot to latch the gate and let Grandpa wander away again?


lol

Nekochan

Nekochan

Mr Ichi wrote:Guess I am missing something.  I dont see the  Correlation between laws and prisons and Security clearances.
Me either.  

I don't think we need more laws, I think the DOD needs to reconsider how it issues clearances.  What will probably happen, instead of doing a better job in determining just who needs a secret clearance (as Ichi-san posted about) is that the government will now bog everyone down in more paperwork and requirements than ever.   It'll probably take 2 years to get a clearance.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Sal wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:Guess I am missing something.  I dont see the  Correlation between laws and prisons and Security clearances.

I think he's in the wrong thread.

Who forgot to latch the gate and let Grandpa wander away again?


lol
I thought liberals were sensitive, guess it's okay to poke fun at old people...after you turned 40, 20 years will pass in a wink and they will make fun of your old winkled ass....If you ain't dead from depopulation....

Nekochan

Nekochan

LOL, when Teo is right, he's right. Twisted Evil 
Oh, how time flies.  One day you're 35 and the next day you're over 50 and thinking--what the hell happened??

Guest


Guest

Try 70 LOL

Nekochan

Nekochan

You double your age, 35 to 70 in the blink of an eye!   It's funny because for a lot of those first 35 years you think that time is so, so slow. You can't wait for this and that and the other to happen.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Sal wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:Guess I am missing something.  I dont see the  Correlation between laws and prisons and Security clearances.

I think he's in the wrong thread.

Who forgot to latch the gate and let Grandpa wander away again?


lol

Dammit, he escaped again.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Joanimaroni wrote:
Sal wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:Guess I am missing something.  I dont see the  Correlation between laws and prisons and Security clearances.

I think he's in the wrong thread.

Who forgot to latch the gate and let Grandpa wander away again?


lol
Dammit, he escaped again.
Yes I did and I am going to....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Nekochan

Nekochan

There is no cage that can hold Teo for long!

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Nekochan wrote:There is no cage that can hold Teo for long!
There was this one time in New York I had a hard time getting lose but I finally did.

Meet the Federal Contractor Who Hired the Navy Yard Shooter Th10

Sal

Sal

TEOTWAWKI wrote:
I thought liberals were sensitive, guess it's okay to poke fun at old people...after you turned 40, 20 years will pass in a wink and they will make fun of your old winkled ass....If you ain't dead from depopulation....

Lighten up, Francis.

I'm just pullin' your string.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Sal wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:
I thought liberals were sensitive, guess it's okay to poke fun at old people...after you turned 40, 20 years will pass in a wink and they will make fun of your old winkled ass....If you ain't dead from depopulation....

Lighten up, Francis.

I'm just pullin' your string.
Oh sure that's how they all try to weasel out..I was just kiddin..well that's fine till someone gets his feelings hurt....Sad 

knothead

knothead

Nekochan wrote:You double your age, 35 to 70 in the blink of an eye!   It's funny because for a lot of those first 35 years you think that time is so, so slow. You can't wait for this and that and the other to happen.
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Reminds me of a great line from Lonesome Dove when Augustus McCrae, while on his death bed in Montana from a lucky shot of an arrow in a fight, said to his life long friend and side kick, Captain Woodrow Call, "I God Woodrow, it's been a hell of a party!"

I feel the same . . . . . it's been one hell of a party.

Nekochan

Nekochan

LOVE Lonesome Dove!  I love you

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