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John Boehner is the Most Ineffective and Incompetent Speaker in the History of the House

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Sal

Sal

He wouldn't have brought this to a vote unless he thought it would pass, and it was routed.

What a joke.

Is he drunk all of the time?

In a blow to House GOP leaders, the House on Thursday rejected a five-year farm bill.

Members voted down the $940 billion bill in a 195-234 vote that only won 24 Democratic votes. Most Democrats voted against the bill because it cut food stamp programs by more than $20 billion.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/306857-house-rejects-farm-bill-that-cuts-restricts-food-stamp-program#ixzz2Wn16Scy5

Guest


Guest

If your definition of incompetence in a Speaker is that of a bill failing to pass then I guess you need to lump old Harry Reid into that same category too. Both of the incompetent morons need to go home along with whole bunch of other folks. At least try to be objective once in a while Sally.

Sal

Sal

Now, Cantor has come out and claimed that Nancy Pelosi didn't deliver the 40 Dem votes she promised.

Assuming for a minute that Cantor isn't lying (which he is), the bill would have only failed 220-209.

Pelosi is entirely correct - this is amateur hour.

Cantor is an idiot, or thinks the public is as innumerate as he is, and Boehner is a lush.

What an epic FAIL.

Guest


Guest

Pelosi shoved through a bill that no one had read... there is nothing more epic for recorded idiocy...

except a majority of americans voting for a candidate that they knew next to nothing about with so little experience... at anything of any significance.

That has to be the most epic example of mass idiocy ever.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Pelosi shoved through a bill that no one had read... there is nothing more epic for recorded idiocy.

Another Repuke lie.

What she actually said ...

“We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it away from the fog of controversy.”

She was speaking of the American people and how they had been repeatedly mislead by the GOP.

BTW, did that bill pass?

Who was Speaker?

lmao

2seaoat



They have not addressed farm subsidies......yet they are arguing about pennies on the dollar with food stamps.....insanity.....maybe by not passing folks will revisit corporate welfare.

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Pelosi shoved through a bill that no one had read... there is nothing more epic for recorded idiocy.

Another Repuke lie.

What she actually said ...

“We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it away from the fog of controversy.”

She was speaking of the American people and how they had been repeatedly mislead by the GOP.

BTW, did that bill pass?

Who was Speaker?

lmao

The repukes lie and their followers repeat the lie. How many times do we have to hear that lie?


Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Pelosi shoved through a bill that no one had read... there is nothing more epic for recorded idiocy.

Another Repuke lie.

What she actually said ...

“We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it away from the fog of controversy.”

She was speaking of the American people and how they had been repeatedly mislead by the GOP.

BTW, did that bill pass?

Who was Speaker?

lmao
 
     The quote listed makes her sound more incompetent...and look how this [name] cowh healthcare has turned out...Speaking of misleading the American people!...Being reported that the republicans revolted against this 'bloated bill' because it would cost too much and democrats retreated because it wasn't spending enough on the priorites specified....Perhaps they should have passed it and THEN looked inside to see what was in it away from the fog of controversy...that would have been leadership?...

Sal

Sal

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi took to the House floor shortly before the vote on McGovern’s amendment and urged Democrats to vote for it, which all but eight of them did. In an interview with The Nation in her Capitol office shortly after the vote, an exasperated Pelosi said the food stamp cuts could now endanger the entire farm bill.

“I don’t know if this is even going to pass,” she said. “I don’t know what the Republicans have in votes, but they better have a lot.”

Here’s the problem: as it stands now, many Democrats, like McGovern, have said they simply won’t vote for a farm bill with $20.5 billion in cuts, calling them a “poison pill.”

There are some Democrats who will: thirteen Democrats on the agriculture committee, many from rural areas that badly want a farm bill to be passed, voted for the version of the farm bill with those cuts.

But Pelosi predicted that only “somewhere between two and three times” that many Democrats would vote for the final farm bill with that level of food stamp cuts, meaning that House Speaker John Boehner would have to get a majority of his caucus to vote yes on the farm bill for it to pass.

And many conservatives are deeply unhappy with the legislation, in large part because they feel it doesn’t cut enough from food stamps. Boehner may not be able to get a majority of them to vote yes. And if, in order to win their votes, Boehner allows even deeper food stamp cuts, then Pelosi said it’s possible no Democrats would vote yes.

“If they change it on the floor, then all bets are off. It’s not even—I don’t think they can get Collin [Peterson, the ranking member on the agriculture committee who supports the food stamp cuts], depending on where they go with it,” she said. “If they have any adult supervision over there, somebody will say, ’If we go this far, increase these cuts, we better have all the votes that are necessary.‘ ”

What a contrast in the ability to lead ...

... and count.

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi took to the House floor shortly before the vote on McGovern’s amendment and urged Democrats to vote for it, which all but eight of them did. In an interview with The Nation in her Capitol office shortly after the vote, an exasperated Pelosi said the food stamp cuts could now endanger the entire farm bill.

   “I don’t know if this is even going to pass,” she said. “I don’t know what the Republicans have in votes, but they better have a lot.”

   Here’s the problem: as it stands now, many Democrats, like McGovern, have said they simply won’t vote for a farm bill with $20.5 billion in cuts, calling them a “poison pill.”

   There are some Democrats who will: thirteen Democrats on the agriculture committee, many from rural areas that badly want a farm bill to be passed, voted for the version of the farm bill with those cuts.

   But Pelosi predicted that only “somewhere between two and three times” that many Democrats would vote for the final farm bill with that level of food stamp cuts, meaning that House Speaker John Boehner would have to get a majority of his caucus to vote yes on the farm bill for it to pass.

   And many conservatives are deeply unhappy with the legislation, in large part because they feel it doesn’t cut enough from food stamps. Boehner may not be able to get a majority of them to vote yes. And if, in order to win their votes, Boehner allows even deeper food stamp cuts, then Pelosi said it’s possible no Democrats would vote yes.

   “If they change it on the floor, then all bets are off. It’s not even—I don’t think they can get Collin [Peterson, the ranking member on the agriculture committee who supports the food stamp cuts], depending on where they go with it,” she said. “If they have any adult supervision over there, somebody will say, ’If we go this far, increase these cuts, we better have all the votes that are necessary.‘ ”

What a contrast in the ability to lead ...

... and count.

Hmmm, so the Dems wouldn't vote yes because they don't want to cut entitlements (and you are fine with that), the R's couldn't get enough votes because they wanted to cut entitlements (and you think that's a bad thing). Sounds like typical partisan politics. Neither side will compromise in enough numbers to accomplish anything substantive. Since this has been business as usual for this administration what is your point? If BHO would jump in with both feet and LEAD for once perhaps a compromise could be reached. But he has stayed behind the scenes as he usually does. The Detached President.

Sal

Sal

nochain wrote:what is your point?

It's in the title of the thread, dipwad.

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
nochain wrote:what is your point?

It's in the title of the thread, dipwad.
Poor uncomprehending Sally, with your own statements you discredited your entire thread as I clearly pointed out to anyone even semi-literate and aware of current events. Oh wait, that does leave you behind the comprehension curve again doesn't it? Your hyper-progressive hypocrisy is astounding but expected. Dipwad indeed......

Sal

Sal

It is clear that Boehner thought this bill would pass or he wouldn't have brought it to the floor.

It was a rout.

Now, they want to blame the Dems for not delivering the 40 votes they claim Pelosi promised, even though the bill would have failed even with those 40 votes.

Massive failure of leadership by Boehner and Cantor.

They cannot control their caucus, and they suck at their jobs.

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