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North Carolina Will Be the New Home of the American Taliban

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Sal

Sal

Help us, Jebus ...

A bill filed by Republican lawmakers would allow North Carolina to declare an official religion, in violation of the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Bill of Rights, and seeks to nullify any federal ruling against Christian prayer by public bodies statewide. The legislation grew out of a dispute between the American Civil Liberties Union against the Rowan County Board of Commissioners. In a federal lawsuit filed last month, the ACLU says the board has opened 97 percent of its meetings since 2007 with explicitly Christian prayers. Overtly Christian prayers at government meetings are not rare in North Carolina. Since the Republican takeover in 2011, the state Senate chaplain has offered an explicitly Christian invocation virtually every day of session, despite the fact that some senators are not Christian.

"The Constitution of the United States does not grant the federal government and does not grant the federal courts the power to determine what is or is not constitutional; therefore, by virtue of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, the power to determine constitutionality and the proper interpretation and proper application of the Constitution is reserved to the states and to the people," the bill states. "Each state in the union is sovereign and may independently determine how that state may make laws respecting an establishment of religion."

http://www.wral.com/proposal-would-allow-state-religion-in-north-carolina/12296876/

Guest


Guest

Sorry Sal.

I just posted the same unbelievable falderal.

2seaoat



You both need to relax....North Carolina's economy is booming and folks are moving in record numbers to the state. The Demographics are changing so quickly that there is a desperate attempt to galvanize the base.....it will not matter.......The state is solidly going to become a swing state and eventually by 2020 a Democratic state.....unless the Republican party pushes these crazies out.....they are committing electoral suicide.

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North Carolina Will Be the New Home of the American Taliban Untitled-3

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Lurch wrote:North Carolina Will Be the New Home of the American Taliban Untitled-3


Isn't that the truth? What is more amazing is otherwise intelligent people believe all that crap. I used to be one of them until I grew up. It was a rude awakening.

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Guest

When you are taught something continually from the time you are very young there are few that will question it...

the same goes for collectivist ideologies.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

PkrBum wrote:When you are taught something continually from the time you are very young there are few that will question it...

the same goes for collectivist ideologies.

As simple as that statement is (and the simplest of ideas usually have the most value); it is so profound that if there was a "cliff notes" on human behaviour, that would occupy a good part of it.

And the best way to understand it is this. And that is to remember that it not only applies to the christians who are the subject of the thread, it equally applies to the muslims in the middle east.
It not only applies to the conservatives, it applies equally to liberals.
It not only applies to whites, it applies equally to blacks.
It not only applies to the old, it applies equally to the young.
It not only applies to men, it applies equally to women.
It not only applies to American soldiers, it applies equally to Nazi soldiers.

And when you begin to truly realize that, it SHOULD becomes a little easier to break out of whatever brainwashing you yourself have been subjected to.



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Bob wrote:
PkrBum wrote:When you are taught something continually from the time you are very young there are few that will question it...

the same goes for collectivist ideologies.

As simple as that statement is (and the simplest of ideas usually have the most value); it is so profound that if there was a "cliff notes" on human behaviour, that would occupy a good part of it.

And the best way to understand it is this. And that is to remember that it not only applies to the christians who are the subject of the thread, it equally applies to the muslims in the middle east.
It not only applies to the conservatives, it applies equally to liberals.
It not only applies to whites, it applies equally to blacks.
It not only applies to the old, it applies equally to the young.
It not only applies to men, it applies equally to women.
It not only applies to American soldiers, it applies equally to Nazi soldiers.

And when you begin to truly realize that, it SHOULD becomes a little easier to break out of whatever brainwashing you yourself have been subjected to.

.................................................

And it definitely applies to white supremacist and racist of every stripe.

That begs the question. When children are taught something so aberrant to society, should that be considered child abuse, and the children be removed from that environment...?


Better bring a gun, 'cause I guarantee THEY are packing.

Why is that...?

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:When you are taught something continually from the time you are very young there are few that will question it...

Yeah.

It seems like people would grow out of a sophomoric philosophy that pretends to be morally superior and promotes liberty and self-reliance above all else, when they eventually come to the realization that their axiomatic worldview is being seized upon by nihilistic corporatists to justify their greed and consolidate their power.

Eventually, you'd think they'd see the connection between their rigid and simplistic dogma and the real world consequences.

In the end, it's just a search for a moral justification for greed.

You'd think they'd finally figure that out.

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Guest

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:When you are taught something continually from the time you are very young there are few that will question it...

Yeah.

It seems like people would grow out of a sophomoric philosophy that pretends to be morally superior and promotes liberty and self-reliance above all else, when they eventually come to the realization that their axiomatic worldview is being seized upon by nihilistic corporatists to justify their greed and consolidate their power.

Eventually, you'd think they'd see the connection between their rigid and simplistic dogma and the real world consequences.

In the end, it's just a search for a moral justification for greed.

You'd think they'd finally figure that out.

Correcto mondo. It's amazing how people rationalize their dysfunctional thinking. The self always wins.

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Guest

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:When you are taught something continually from the time you are very young there are few that will question it...

Yeah.

It seems like people would grow out of a sophomoric philosophy that pretends to be morally superior and promotes liberty and self-reliance above all else, when they eventually come to the realization that their axiomatic worldview is being seized upon by nihilistic corporatists to justify their greed and consolidate their power.

Eventually, you'd think they'd see the connection between their rigid and simplistic dogma and the real world consequences.

In the end, it's just a search for a moral justification for greed.

You'd think they'd finally figure that out.

See? self-reliance has been revised to a subjective measurement that equates with greed. Tell me that's common sense.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:

See? self-reliance has been revised to a subjective measurement that equates with greed. Tell me that's common sense.

It's not only common sense, it's reality.

All you need to do is look at the real world consequences of what you advocate.

Doesn't matter if they were your intended consequences or not.

You're kinda like a guy who has a grease fire on the stove and throws water at it burning the entire house down in the process.

Doesn't matter if you were too stupid to know you don't throw water on a grease fire.

You still burned the house down.

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Guest

Just say it comrade. "From each according to their abilities... to each according to their needs".

Obama flat out said that at a certain point you've earned enough money... that will not be determined by you. So relax you are winning the ideological war... my thinking is antiquated and on the way out. Your's is taught in school, blasted from the msm, and spoken by nearly every politician.

If only we had some idea where this leads. <sigh>

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Just say it comrade. "From each according to their abilities... to each according to their needs".

Obama flat out said that at a certain point you've earned enough money... that will not be determined by you. So relax you are winning the ideological war... my thinking is antiquated and on the way out. Your's is taught in school, blasted from the msm, and spoken by nearly every politician.

If only we had some idea where this leads. <sigh>

There's a reason so many undergraduates gravitate to libertarianism.

It's because they are naive, they have no real world experience, and the ideology is simplistic and easy to understand.

There's also a reason so few graduates remain libertarians.

It's because they eventually grow up, get some experience with the real world, and realize that simplistic axioms are inadequate in solving societal problems.

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Pffft... you can't marginalize me with that crap. I have lived it... made others rich... started three companies.

Like I said you're winning... don't be a poor sport... it just comes off as intolerant and mean spirited.

Me and my kind will be dead and gone and forgotten soon enough... tho apparently not soon enough for some.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Pffft... you can't marginalize me with that crap.

Like I said you're winning...

Me and my kind will be dead and gone and forgotten soon enough...

Don't marginalize you because you've already been rejected?

OK

Very Happy

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Guest

Rejection implies a fair presentation... it is not. Self-reliance is scary... filled with inherent dangers and the very real possibility of failure. The ships that carried our founders and the wagons that headed west had no safety nets beyond human perseverance and ingenuity. We are capable of pretty remarkable things as a species... but I see very little of that spirit in your ilk. You were born in the proper time... the domesticated era.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Rejection implies a fair presentation... it is not. Self-reliance is scary... filled with inherent dangers and the very real possibility of failure. The ships that carried our founders and the wagons that headed west had no safety nets beyond human perseverance and ingenuity. We are capable of pretty remarkable things as a species... but I see very little of that spirit in your ilk. You were born in the proper time... the domesticated era.

Most conservatives would like to take us back to the 1950s.

You'd prefer the 1650s.

And, you wonder why people aren't more receptive to your message.

lol

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PkrBum wrote:Pffft... you can't marginalize me with that crap. I have lived it... made others rich... started three companies.

Like I said you're winning... don't be a poor sport... it just comes off as intolerant and mean spirited.

Me and my kind will be dead and gone and forgotten soon enough... tho apparently not soon enough for some.

Editing my post for a snarky comeback is a sissified tactic imo... I know the end justifies the means in your world... but for the propose of context try to pull up your wet pants and play fair.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Pffft... you can't marginalize me with that crap. I have lived it... made others rich... started three companies.

Like I said you're winning... don't be a poor sport... it just comes off as intolerant and mean spirited.

Me and my kind will be dead and gone and forgotten soon enough... tho apparently not soon enough for some.

Editing my post for a snarky comeback is a sissified tactic imo... I know the end justifies the means in your world... but for the propose of context try to pull up your wet pants and play fair.

I'll respond to your posts as I choose.

If I'm editing, it is to make a point of the parts to which I'm responding, and discarding the drivel.

I'm sorry if that hurts your tender fee fees, Daniel Boone.

lmao

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Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Pffft... you can't marginalize me with that crap. I have lived it... made others rich... started three companies.

Like I said you're winning... don't be a poor sport... it just comes off as intolerant and mean spirited.

Me and my kind will be dead and gone and forgotten soon enough... tho apparently not soon enough for some.

Editing my post for a snarky comeback is a sissified tactic imo... I know the end justifies the means in your world... but for the propose of context try to pull up your wet pants and play fair.

I'll respond to your posts as I choose.

If I'm editing, it is to make a drivel.

I'm sorry but you hurt my tender fee fees.

lmao

understood

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PkrBum wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Pffft... you can't marginalize me with that crap. I have lived it... made others rich... started three companies.

Like I said you're winning... don't be a poor sport... it just comes off as intolerant and mean spirited.

Me and my kind will be dead and gone and forgotten soon enough... tho apparently not soon enough for some.

Editing my post for a snarky comeback is a sissified tactic imo... I know the end justifies the means in your world... but for the propose of context try to pull up your wet pants and play fair.

................................

Brother....why is it sissy-ish and apparently, unfair...for someone to deconstruct your remarks and use them to illustrate a point...?

FTR....you are one of the few opposing viewpoints on this forum who can debate w/out playground taunts. I like that a lot.

So is it fair for me to do likewise or to taunt the folk who think they are God's gift to gab...?

Is it hypocrisy or is it as I see it...using absurdity to expose absurdity and sarcasm to demonstrate another's lack of comprehension...? There's a prime example over on Bob's gun thread, rebutting the idea that cars should be banned because they kill more folk than guns...!!!

Do I even have to explain why that nonsense deserves to be lampooned...?

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Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Rejection implies a fair presentation... it is not. Self-reliance is scary... filled with inherent dangers and the very real possibility of failure. The ships that carried our founders and the wagons that headed west had no safety nets beyond human perseverance and ingenuity. We are capable of pretty remarkable things as a species... but I see very little of that spirit in your ilk. You were born in the proper time... the domesticated era.

Most conservatives would like to take us back to the 1950s.

You'd prefer the 1650s.

And, you wonder why people aren't more receptive to your message.

lol

It's a shame you have so little appreciation for the human animal and what it can accomplish. The fear of failure or starvation or death used to drive us to achieve, overcome, persevere... now it drives us to trade freedom for a collective salvation.

Humankind is a ripe fruit... I hope you live long enough to realize where this is heading... useful idiot.

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Guest

I appreciate what you're saying Bill... but he didn't use that tactic to highlight a point... he used it to minimize my response and to be derisive. I just don't think thats fair. I like Sal... but I'm not going to be run over. I keep telling him that he's winning... but that's apparently not enough... he also wishes to humiliate his opponent. I am no man's doormat.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:I appreciate what you're saying Bill... but he didn't use that tactic to highlight a point... he used it to minimize my response and to be derisive. I just don't think thats fair. I like Sal... but I'm not going to be run over. I keep telling him that he's winning... but that's apparently not enough... he also wishes to humiliate his opponent. I am no man's doormat.

C'mon, man.

Here's your original post ...

PkrBum wrote:Pffft... you can't marginalize me with that crap. I have lived it... made others rich... started three companies.

Like I said you're winning... don't be a poor sport... it just comes off as intolerant and mean spirited.

Me and my kind will be dead and gone and forgotten soon enough... tho apparently not soon enough for some.

I've highlighted the parts I edited out.

Now, here's my response ...

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Pffft... you can't marginalize me with that crap.

Like I said you're winning...

Me and my kind will be dead and gone and forgotten soon enough...

Don't marginalize you because you've already been rejected?

OK

Very Happy

The points I quoted are the only salient ones in your post.

I didn't care to respond to your personal anecdotes nor your personal attacks, because they aren't relevant to, and only served to obscure. the observation I was making.

I wasn't trying to be derisive, or minimizing, or humiliating.

Snarky?

Guilty.

Man up, dude.

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