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Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:

so far not much from you on this complex issue. I can see you are trying to fake your way out of having to address it any other way than hee hee haa haa Rolling Eyes

I'm happy to offer as much as you like on the subject. However, I really can't get past your description of Dodd-Frank as "blatant communism". Could you explain what you mean?

I beleive I was very clear in how I made my statement.

Youve had two pages now to make yours

Im not sure even at this point if you are defending the dodd-frank bill or just attacking me the poster for posting it. Either one makes you foolish Rolling Eyes

You have conflated "regulation" with "Communism"....not the same thing. Perhaps, you could redefine your issue with Dodd-Frank using correct terminology. Frank-Dodd has many flaws and some that introduce more systemic risk to the banking system than ever before. Frank-Dodd actual doesn't regulate enough. But, for the love of god, could people start using words correctly?

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Rogue wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:

so far not much from you on this complex issue. I can see you are trying to fake your way out of having to address it any other way than hee hee haa haa Rolling Eyes

I'm happy to offer as much as you like on the subject. However, I really can't get past your description of Dodd-Frank as "blatant communism". Could you explain what you mean?

I beleive I was very clear in how I made my statement.

Youve had two pages now to make yours

Im not sure even at this point if you are defending the dodd-frank bill or just attacking me the poster for posting it. Either one makes you foolish Rolling Eyes

You really stuck your foot in it now. Prime example of why you are considered an idiot.

really?

I see no foot in my mouth. all i see is diversion and hee hee haw haw tactics.

I made my case, I gave facts, I gave links to facts to even where your side was against this.

no foot in mouth retard woman.

go pack up your desperate vagina with some cotton and hush it.

Of course, you don't. In your mind, you've very intelligent while everybody else is laughing their ass off. You want to answer Margin Call's question rather than posting links of someone else's answer? I think not.

im sorry. are you now answering for margin call? lol!

I already answered it on the first page Smile

look how low margin call has gone, you are now speaking for him LMAO lol! lol! lol!

Asking you why you didn't answer Margin Call's question is not speaking for him. Did you know that? This is I have such a poor opinion of your intelligence.

his question was why did i call it blatant communism... and i told him like ill tell you. its all on the 1st page. ive already answered it.

The only thing I see is you copied an excerpt from an article. I must have missed your answer somewhere?

this is what I said on the front page of this thread:

The best way for me to explain this bill is pretty much like i veiw the obamacare bill. Its a complex take over of just about everything in our society that has any significance to do with the economy. Its blatant communism at heart really. To have so many regulations even to the smallest of things being held hostage by a bunch of government beurocrats who would sell their souls for a vote. What it does is create more leverage for our politicians to sell thier votes with each election. Thus nothing but constance changing cluster fucks could possibly ever be seen from such a monsterous bunch of regulations and laws.

Its just more transfer of power from the private sector to the Gov

I beleive my point was clear about my views on that it is blatant communism, which was the question from MC.

perhaps I should define communism for you:

a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/communism

and I have tired of the useless bickering with you on this thread about a pointless question. Youve offered nothing to the topic of dodd-frank other than harrasing me. even those in your own party have started coming out against this monster bill. < and Ive already shown that too.

soooooo

[img]Dodd-Frank and the big kiss to wall street - Page 2 Sfun_d10[/img]

The question wasn't pointless and all you did was make a generalized statement w/ absolutely no substance at all. You failed to define why the bill is communistic other than it is regulation. You call that intelligent commentary? In your view, then any regulation is "communistic" which is totally assinine.

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3 states join lawsuit against Dodd-Frank reforms



Three states have joined a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.

On Sept. 20, South Carolina, Michigan, and Oklahoma joined a lawsuit challenging the legality of the financial reform act. Their complaint argues that the “Orderly Liquidation Authority” granted to the Treasury Secretary under Title II of the act “violates the separation of powers.”

In a conference call with reporters on Friday, Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma’s attorney general, said legislators used the 2008 financial crisis “to concentrate power in Washington, DC.” He argued that the bill is incompatible with the U.S. constitutional system and its framework of checks and balances.

Read more: http://times247.com/articles/wall-street-reform-faces-tri-state-suit#ixzz2A38RWpyY

Margin Call

Margin Call

The Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury Department, FDIC, etc have always regulated the financial system. Guess where their offices have always been located?

I keep looking, but I don't see where the lawsuit says the bill is "communist". No

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Margin Call wrote:The Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury Department, FDIC, etc have always regulated the financial system. Guess where their offices have always been located?

I keep looking, but I don't see where the lawsuit says the bill is "communist". No

I never said the lawsuit said it was communist.

Those were my words. My very own conclusion.

I dont care where its located.
Do you have anything to say about the dodd-frank bill?

do you support this 2300 monstrosity?

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Does Dodd-Frank end bailouts? No, it writes them into law. Title II of Dodd-Frank authorizes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to borrow up to 100 percent of the book value of a failed firm’s total consolidated assets a month after the FDIC’s appointment as receiver. In practice, this money would be used to pay off the firm’s creditors and counterparties in the name of containing “systemic risk.” This effectively shifts the risk of failure from the firm’s lenders to taxpayers and promotes the practice of privatizing profits and socializing losses that is the hallmark of “too big to fail.” Can you say taxpayer guarantee?
Read more: BACHUS: Grim Reaper's name is Dodd-Frank - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/11/bachus-grim-reapers-name-dodd-frank/#ixzz2A4aiPZ14
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Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:The Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury Department, FDIC, etc have always regulated the financial system. Guess where their offices have always been located?

I keep looking, but I don't see where the lawsuit says the bill is "communist". No

I never said the lawsuit said it was communist.

Those were my words. My very own conclusion.

I dont care where its located.
Do you have anything to say about the dodd-frank bill?

do you support this 2300 monstrosity?

----------
Does Dodd-Frank end bailouts? No, it writes them into law. Title II of Dodd-Frank authorizes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to borrow up to 100 percent of the book value of a failed firm’s total consolidated assets a month after the FDIC’s appointment as receiver. In practice, this money would be used to pay off the firm’s creditors and counterparties in the name of containing “systemic risk.” This effectively shifts the risk of failure from the firm’s lenders to taxpayers and promotes the practice of privatizing profits and socializing losses that is the hallmark of “too big to fail.” Can you say taxpayer guarantee?
Read more: BACHUS: Grim Reaper's name is Dodd-Frank - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/11/bachus-grim-reapers-name-dodd-frank/#ixzz2A4aiPZ14
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Please pay attention; I just posted this:

"Frank-Dodd has many flaws and some that introduce more systemic risk to the banking system than ever before. "

So, how is any of that "communist"?

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Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:The Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury Department, FDIC, etc have always regulated the financial system. Guess where their offices have always been located?

I keep looking, but I don't see where the lawsuit says the bill is "communist". No

I never said the lawsuit said it was communist.

Those were my words. My very own conclusion.

I dont care where its located.
Do you have anything to say about the dodd-frank bill?

do you support this 2300 monstrosity?

----------
Does Dodd-Frank end bailouts? No, it writes them into law. Title II of Dodd-Frank authorizes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to borrow up to 100 percent of the book value of a failed firm’s total consolidated assets a month after the FDIC’s appointment as receiver. In practice, this money would be used to pay off the firm’s creditors and counterparties in the name of containing “systemic risk.” This effectively shifts the risk of failure from the firm’s lenders to taxpayers and promotes the practice of privatizing profits and socializing losses that is the hallmark of “too big to fail.” Can you say taxpayer guarantee?
Read more: BACHUS: Grim Reaper's name is Dodd-Frank - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/11/bachus-grim-reapers-name-dodd-frank/#ixzz2A4aiPZ14
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

A conclusion you can't support just like the rest of your bullshit. You need to be run out of this country on a rail.

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Dreamsglore wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:The Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury Department, FDIC, etc have always regulated the financial system. Guess where their offices have always been located?

I keep looking, but I don't see where the lawsuit says the bill is "communist". No

I never said the lawsuit said it was communist.

Those were my words. My very own conclusion.

I dont care where its located.
Do you have anything to say about the dodd-frank bill?

do you support this 2300 monstrosity?

----------
Does Dodd-Frank end bailouts? No, it writes them into law. Title II of Dodd-Frank authorizes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to borrow up to 100 percent of the book value of a failed firm’s total consolidated assets a month after the FDIC’s appointment as receiver. In practice, this money would be used to pay off the firm’s creditors and counterparties in the name of containing “systemic risk.” This effectively shifts the risk of failure from the firm’s lenders to taxpayers and promotes the practice of privatizing profits and socializing losses that is the hallmark of “too big to fail.” Can you say taxpayer guarantee?
Read more: BACHUS: Grim Reaper's name is Dodd-Frank - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/11/bachus-grim-reapers-name-dodd-frank/#ixzz2A4aiPZ14
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

A conclusion you can't support just like the rest of your bullshit. You need to be run out of this country on a rail.

oh shut the hell up. ive provided plenty of data here. and all you got is one liners that are completly irrelevant to the subject. so you shut th hell up and stuff your ass full of fist

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I an see that this bill, this huge ass bill thats killing the country just like obamacare is has escaped most.

Im not surprised.

either way, When president Romney removes these 2 bills, dodd-frank and obamacare from the throat of our nation, this nation will began to rebuild from the damage this retard obama has done.

If not.

may god have mercy on all of us.

Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:The Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury Department, FDIC, etc have always regulated the financial system. Guess where their offices have always been located?

I keep looking, but I don't see where the lawsuit says the bill is "communist". No

I never said the lawsuit said it was communist.

Those were my words. My very own conclusion.

I dont care where its located.
Do you have anything to say about the dodd-frank bill?

do you support this 2300 monstrosity?

----------
Does Dodd-Frank end bailouts? No, it writes them into law. Title II of Dodd-Frank authorizes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to borrow up to 100 percent of the book value of a failed firm’s total consolidated assets a month after the FDIC’s appointment as receiver. In practice, this money would be used to pay off the firm’s creditors and counterparties in the name of containing “systemic risk.” This effectively shifts the risk of failure from the firm’s lenders to taxpayers and promotes the practice of privatizing profits and socializing losses that is the hallmark of “too big to fail.” Can you say taxpayer guarantee?
Read more: BACHUS: Grim Reaper's name is Dodd-Frank - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/11/bachus-grim-reapers-name-dodd-frank/#ixzz2A4aiPZ14
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

A conclusion you can't support just like the rest of your bullshit. You need to be run out of this country on a rail.

oh shut the hell up. ive provided plenty of data here. and all you got is one liners that are completly irrelevant to the subject. so you shut th hell up and stuff your ass full of fist

Data? Communist data?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Forget it, Margin. She has no clue whatsoever.

We need a new version of Glass-Steagall and a revision of the CFMA. And some prosecutions. We should probably start with the Republican candidate for president. I understand that Bain delivered 178% return on investment. Even Madoff could only do a consistent 10%. There's also some speculation out there about events in 2009 and UBS...is it possible that Romney was one of the 5,000 people granted amnesty for paying back taxes due? You know, the whistleblower on that case served 18 months in prison, but received a huge reward when he was released.

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Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:The Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury Department, FDIC, etc have always regulated the financial system. Guess where their offices have always been located?

I keep looking, but I don't see where the lawsuit says the bill is "communist". No

I never said the lawsuit said it was communist.

Those were my words. My very own conclusion.

I dont care where its located.
Do you have anything to say about the dodd-frank bill?

do you support this 2300 monstrosity?

----------
Does Dodd-Frank end bailouts? No, it writes them into law. Title II of Dodd-Frank authorizes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to borrow up to 100 percent of the book value of a failed firm’s total consolidated assets a month after the FDIC’s appointment as receiver. In practice, this money would be used to pay off the firm’s creditors and counterparties in the name of containing “systemic risk.” This effectively shifts the risk of failure from the firm’s lenders to taxpayers and promotes the practice of privatizing profits and socializing losses that is the hallmark of “too big to fail.” Can you say taxpayer guarantee?
Read more: BACHUS: Grim Reaper's name is Dodd-Frank - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/11/bachus-grim-reapers-name-dodd-frank/#ixzz2A4aiPZ14
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

A conclusion you can't support just like the rest of your bullshit. You need to be run out of this country on a rail.

oh shut the hell up. ive provided plenty of data here. and all you got is one liners that are completly irrelevant to the subject. so you shut th hell up and stuff your ass full of fist

Data? Communist data?

You havnt answered my question. Ive answered yours.

I declare victory on this thread.

now you guys can continue on with your one liners and personal attacks. Its all you got.

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Rogue wrote:
Margin Call wrote:The Federal Reserve, the SEC, the Treasury Department, FDIC, etc have always regulated the financial system. Guess where their offices have always been located?

I keep looking, but I don't see where the lawsuit says the bill is "communist". No

I never said the lawsuit said it was communist.

Those were my words. My very own conclusion.

I dont care where its located.
Do you have anything to say about the dodd-frank bill?

do you support this 2300 monstrosity?

----------
Does Dodd-Frank end bailouts? No, it writes them into law. Title II of Dodd-Frank authorizes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to borrow up to 100 percent of the book value of a failed firm’s total consolidated assets a month after the FDIC’s appointment as receiver. In practice, this money would be used to pay off the firm’s creditors and counterparties in the name of containing “systemic risk.” This effectively shifts the risk of failure from the firm’s lenders to taxpayers and promotes the practice of privatizing profits and socializing losses that is the hallmark of “too big to fail.” Can you say taxpayer guarantee?
Read more: BACHUS: Grim Reaper's name is Dodd-Frank - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/11/bachus-grim-reapers-name-dodd-frank/#ixzz2A4aiPZ14
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

A conclusion you can't support just like the rest of your bullshit. You need to be run out of this country on a rail.

oh shut the hell up. ive provided plenty of data here. and all you got is one liners that are completly irrelevant to the subject. so you shut th hell up and stuff your ass full of fist

Data? Communist data?

You havnt answered my question. Ive answered yours.

I declare victory on this thread.

now you guys can continue on with your one liners and personal attacks. Its all you got.

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

For the record, it's impossible to win an argument against someone who makes up the meanings of certain words. Rather, it's impossible to convince the person using certain words improperly that they are dumber than a sack of dirt.

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cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

Margin Call

Margin Call

Floridatexan wrote:
Forget it, Margin. She has no clue whatsoever.

We need a new version of Glass-Steagall and a revision of the CFMA. And some prosecutions. We should probably start with the Republican candidate for president. I understand that Bain delivered 178% return on investment. Even Madoff could only do a consistent 10%. There's also some speculation out there about events in 2009 and UBS...is it possible that Romney was one of the 5,000 people granted amnesty for paying back taxes due? You know, the whistleblower on that case served 18 months in prison, but received a huge reward when he was released.

We need transparency and proper margin posted on all transactions to reduce counter party risk. Wall Street needs to be the most boring place in the world.

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MC... I was wondering the other day. Is there a way to bet against student loans?

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now he wants to start saying stuff other than attacksd. sorry talk to dumbass...

I WIN

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

Margin Call

Margin Call

PkrBum wrote:MC... I was wondering the other day. Is there a way to bet against student loans?

You could short SLM.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=SLM+Profile

If you think student loans will become harder to get then bet against the for-profit colleges like APOL and COCO.






Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Margin Call wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Forget it, Margin. She has no clue whatsoever.

We need a new version of Glass-Steagall and a revision of the CFMA. And some prosecutions. We should probably start with the Republican candidate for president. I understand that Bain delivered 178% return on investment. Even Madoff could only do a consistent 10%. There's also some speculation out there about events in 2009 and UBS...is it possible that Romney was one of the 5,000 people granted amnesty for paying back taxes due? You know, the whistleblower on that case served 18 months in prison, but received a huge reward when he was released.

We need transparency and proper margin posted on all transactions to reduce counter party risk. Wall Street needs to be the most boring place in the world.

Wholeheartedly agree. If only people could see past their first love.

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a little one liner here, another there.

nothing of substance even still. sort of like your president.

I WIN!!!

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:a little one liner here, another there.

nothing of substance even still. sort of like your president.

I WIN!!!

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

Who owns the banks? Who receives their bond payments and dividends? If Frank-Dodd is "communist", then there is only one answer.

Margin Call

Margin Call

Dodd-Frank and the big kiss to wall street - Page 2 Captur13

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Floridatexan wrote:
Forget it, Margin. She has no clue whatsoever.

We need a new version of Glass-Steagall and a revision of the CFMA. And some prosecutions. We should probably start with the Republican candidate for president. I understand that Bain delivered 178% return on investment. Even Madoff could only do a consistent 10%. There's also some speculation out there about events in 2009 and UBS...is it possible that Romney was one of the 5,000 people granted amnesty for paying back taxes due? You know, the whistleblower on that case served 18 months in prison, but received a huge reward when he was released.

Madoff's consistent 10% is what got him caught. Did you know it took ten years to get the SEC to look into Madoff?

Margin Call

Margin Call

Dreamsglore wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Forget it, Margin. She has no clue whatsoever.

We need a new version of Glass-Steagall and a revision of the CFMA. And some prosecutions. We should probably start with the Republican candidate for president. I understand that Bain delivered 178% return on investment. Even Madoff could only do a consistent 10%. There's also some speculation out there about events in 2009 and UBS...is it possible that Romney was one of the 5,000 people granted amnesty for paying back taxes due? You know, the whistleblower on that case served 18 months in prison, but received a huge reward when he was released.

Madoff's consistent 10% is what got him caught. Did you know it took ten years to get the SEC to look into Madoff?

There were a lot of people who had interests in keeping the scam alive.

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Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:a little one liner here, another there.

nothing of substance even still. sort of like your president.

I WIN!!!

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

Who owns the banks? Who receives their bond payments and dividends? If Frank-Dodd is "communist", then there is only one answer.

Sorry. I gave you all those answers already. I tried fo r2 days to get you to do something other than personal attacks.

Im dis-interested now. But heres my answer from the 2nd page.


Does Dodd-Frank end bailouts? No, it writes them into law. Title II of Dodd-Frank authorizes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to borrow up to 100 percent of the book value of a failed firm’s total consolidated assets a month after the FDIC’s appointment as receiver. In practice, this money would be used to pay off the firm’s creditors and counterparties in the name of containing “systemic risk.” This effectively shifts the risk of failure from the firm’s lenders to taxpayers and promotes the practice of privatizing profits and socializing losses that is the hallmark of “too big to fail.” Can you say taxpayer guarantee?
Read more: BACHUS: Grim Reaper's name is Dodd-Frank - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/11/bachus-grim-reapers-name-dodd-frank/#ixzz2A4aiPZ14
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

I'm not playing by your rules. This is effectivly my last reply to dodd frank. all my other replies will be BS Very Happy

I WIN asshole. cheers

answer my question. do you support Dodd frank? ^^^^^^^^

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