Good god, they are SO stupid and weak. Let's examine some of this stuff...
https://inthesetimes.com/article/national-conservatism-conference-2024-trump-gop
"National Conservatism" is their new term for themselves, and it's a dog whistle for their neo-Nazi base to hearken back to "National Socialism" -- which is what the Nazis were. Even though the Nazis had fuck-all to do with any kind of "socialism." Not that socialism and Communism are the same thing, but the chief opposition to the Nazis were Communists.
Socialism is okay in moderation... I like a little socialism, a little capitalism, neither one full-blown because at their extremes neither works. I'm not a fan of Communism at all, but today's MAGA right thinks everybody who's not one of them is a "Communist." Remember our resident deadbeat-dad who called us all "comrades" all the time (even while his party's the one who's in love with Russia?). Yep.
Anyway, when you hear "National Conservatism," that's the right's intentional invoking of Nazis. Or NatCees, I guess they'll call it. They're not even really hiding it anymore. Their stated plans, Project 2025 (https://www.project2025.org/ ), and Agenda 47, ( https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47 ) are straight out of Mein Kampf.
Notice that everything bad, to conservatives, is female. They really hate women. If culture becomes "feminized," that's BAD.
This is the work of extremely insecure males.
I think it's something to do with the HUGE latent-homosexuality that runs through Christianity. Christian men are almost always kinda effeminate. They have such a need to worship another man that they'll invent one. I mean, honestly, how does any guy get on his knees, clasp his hands in front of his mouth, and not see how gay that is? You're fellating an invisible man. And that's fine if ya wanna do it, I've got no problem with anyone being gay, but when they waste so much of their time having all this gay-fear and gay-hate when it's pretty obvious to anyone who wants to look that they're struggling against something they see in themselves... it gets tiring.
I'm a heterosexual male. I don't feel threatened if society becomes a bit more "feminized." It doesn't make my behavior have to be any different. And it's not a bad thing. Women have always been half of the population. If the culture has a little more of their influence besides just being 85%-geared-toward-men all the time, then... good! Women have good ideas and valuable input. Only some guy who's shaky in his own masculinity has to fear women getting more clout.
Okay, this "fertility cult" thing is just fucking WEIRD. But they're all over it. Elon Musk, especially, is running around with his special-ed haircut on fire because he thinks declining birthrates are a threat to the world. It's not. It'll do more to save the world than hurt it.
We are an overpopulated planet, using up resources that are finite. We've got about enough petroleum to handle our needs for about 5 years in America, 50 on the whole planet. But a bigger problem than oil is going to likely be water. Texas already is out of the sugar cane business because they don't have enough water to grow it anymore. Arizona is facing possible unlivable conditions in the next couple of decades because they're running out of water. If we have less people needing things... GOOD. We're not gonna go extinct. People like to fuck. Always have, always will. We will reproduce. So pushing for more and more kids is just... stupid.
The only reason they're doing this is because neo-Nazis fear this "great replacement" thing. Tucker Carlson jabbers about it, the Nazis chanted about it in Charlottesville. They aren't fearful of running out of people... they're fearful of running out of WHITE people. Or not running out, just out of being outnumbered.
They want to be able to have the numbers needed to keep treating everybody else shitty. If they can't do it via outbreeding them, they will eventually start ethnic cleansing. Conservatives are that afraid of ever getting treated the way they treated other people when they had the chance.
They're just shitty human beings. It's time to stop catering to them.
Okay, this thing. Now, if parents were actually getting little kids sex changes, I'd be against that. I don't care if somebody wants trans surgery -- it's weird to me, but weird doesn't necessarily mean bad, and everybody should live the life they want to live as long as they aren't hurting anyone else, and if that's what it takes for them to pursue their happiness, then, go for it, I'm all for it -- but the should wait until they're an age to make up their mind about something that drastic.
And, they are. Because trans surgery on little kids doesn't work anyway. Not to go overmuch into the gory details, but if you've ever seen this done (and I have -- I watched a film called Shocking Asia that showed it graphically, and WOW I don't wanna see that again) you know that you have to have fully matured genitals to have it work. They don't just cut off a penis -- they skin it and tuck it inside to make the vagina. It needs to be as big as possible to make that work. A little kid's wee-wee will not be enough to make a vagina, and it won't "grow into it." And a woman-to-man requires as big a clitoris as possible to create a penis from.
So all this "mutilating kids" stuff is not how things work, anyway -- it's an ignorant conservative fantasy.
I'm not for immigrants murdering women either. Nobody is. But the incidence of that happening are FAR below native-born conservative men murdering women with unregulated guns, and conservatives don't wanna do a fucking thing about THAT. In fact, they get furious if anyone tries to.
I have a friend -- we'll call him an acquaintance now because he went MAGA-Nazi so fuck that guy -- who is very pro-Trump, but extremely ignorant about EVERYTHING. He gets all his "news" from kook websites like conservativetreehouse and AceofSpadesHQ and shuns the "mainstream media" because he doesn't trust any of it. So this guy definitely has NOT heard about them cracking down on porn.
It'll upset the hell out of him if he ever finds out what he's backing, because all this guy does is review books and cries if there isn't enough explicit sexual content in 'em. He LOVES porn.
I'm betting he won't be too thrilled that they're trying to outlaw contraception, either.
Anybody worked out a scorecard yet on what freedoms we now have that these freedom-lovin' conservatives want to take away? So far the only freedom I know they aren't attacking is the gun thing. They'll get around to that, though, after the right-wingers have killed the liberals. THEN they'll have to hand in their guns. And they will, because they always obey their religious leaders.
Yeah, god forbid the conservatives seem "anti-male."
(this emoji was created exactly for such moments)
The fun thing is, as soon as these people take over, the religious sectarian wars are going to start. You know where this goes, right? First, they want to make sure the Christians are in charge of the country. Once that happens, we'll start determining which Christians are running the show. Then there's sectarian violence.
Anybody really think right-wing Christians are above being the Christian equivalent of Shias and Sunnis? My small town has five pages in the Yellow Pages for Baptist churches alone, because these assholes can't agree on ANYTHING. Make a "Christian nation" and you'll have LESS peace than ever. Sects and violence...
"A religion without God." Ironically, that's MAGA. What in MAGA ideology actually comes from Jesus's teachings? None of it. It's anti-Christian if anything.
Then we have one of the writers of Project 2025 saying it's a new American revolution, and "it will be bloodless... if the left allows it."
Yeah, the rapist won't kill you if you just quit struggling and take it.
The conservatives don't want it to be bloodless. They need blood spilled when people fight back against them so they can justify cracking down and starting pogroms. Will it go as far as building death camps? Wouldn't surprise me. Project 2025 already talks about building camps to put the migrants they're deporting in. Once you've got the camps, you can put anybody in there. And their enemies list is intentionally vague. It's just basically "anybody they don't like," anybody against the "Christian agenda."
And there's also a guy, Ivan Raiklin, an ex-Green Beret neo-Nazi who swears that he has an army of armed thugs all ready to go, and as soon as Trump wins, they're going to start going down their enemies list. He says they'll be visiting Democratic congresspeople and live-streaming it as they haul them and their families out of their homes and slaughter them.
And people are just sitting around, letting this guy talk like that. The right thing to do would be let let it be known that if that guy gets anybody hurt, he's going to be taken out for it. But Democrats are timid about violence so you can't even say you'll retaliate.
And the right still wants to claim they aren't fascist.
If they aren't... what is?
And it goes on, but I babbled enough for now.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/national-conservatism-conference-2024-trump-gop
It would be wrong to say that the entire “national conservatism” movement is a product of repressed psychosexual urges. Some of it is about tariffs. Most of it, though, seems to be what happens when you mix strict religious morality with QAnon, internet porn, Donald Trump’s need for mewling adoration and the American urge to land a high quality internship. Unpredictable things happen.
"National Conservatism" is their new term for themselves, and it's a dog whistle for their neo-Nazi base to hearken back to "National Socialism" -- which is what the Nazis were. Even though the Nazis had fuck-all to do with any kind of "socialism." Not that socialism and Communism are the same thing, but the chief opposition to the Nazis were Communists.
Socialism is okay in moderation... I like a little socialism, a little capitalism, neither one full-blown because at their extremes neither works. I'm not a fan of Communism at all, but today's MAGA right thinks everybody who's not one of them is a "Communist." Remember our resident deadbeat-dad who called us all "comrades" all the time (even while his party's the one who's in love with Russia?). Yep.
Anyway, when you hear "National Conservatism," that's the right's intentional invoking of Nazis. Or NatCees, I guess they'll call it. They're not even really hiding it anymore. Their stated plans, Project 2025 (https://www.project2025.org/ ), and Agenda 47, ( https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47 ) are straight out of Mein Kampf.
This week, I found myself just blocks away from the White House, in a crowded room at the National Conservatism Conference at Washington’s Capital Hilton, listening to a clean cut assistant Texas attorney general giving a speech entitled “Porn’s Penumbras.” This was after the morning lecture against the perils of our “feminized” culture,
Notice that everything bad, to conservatives, is female. They really hate women. If culture becomes "feminized," that's BAD.
This is the work of extremely insecure males.
I think it's something to do with the HUGE latent-homosexuality that runs through Christianity. Christian men are almost always kinda effeminate. They have such a need to worship another man that they'll invent one. I mean, honestly, how does any guy get on his knees, clasp his hands in front of his mouth, and not see how gay that is? You're fellating an invisible man. And that's fine if ya wanna do it, I've got no problem with anyone being gay, but when they waste so much of their time having all this gay-fear and gay-hate when it's pretty obvious to anyone who wants to look that they're struggling against something they see in themselves... it gets tiring.
I'm a heterosexual male. I don't feel threatened if society becomes a bit more "feminized." It doesn't make my behavior have to be any different. And it's not a bad thing. Women have always been half of the population. If the culture has a little more of their influence besides just being 85%-geared-toward-men all the time, then... good! Women have good ideas and valuable input. Only some guy who's shaky in his own masculinity has to fear women getting more clout.
from a gray-haired D.C. think tank veteran who had also preached about the need for “faith, family, and fertility”; after the Israeli Bible scholar had informed us that “the only honorable thing to do is to get married and have children, lots of them — if you’re not doing that, what you’re doing is dishonorable.”
Okay, this "fertility cult" thing is just fucking WEIRD. But they're all over it. Elon Musk, especially, is running around with his special-ed haircut on fire because he thinks declining birthrates are a threat to the world. It's not. It'll do more to save the world than hurt it.
We are an overpopulated planet, using up resources that are finite. We've got about enough petroleum to handle our needs for about 5 years in America, 50 on the whole planet. But a bigger problem than oil is going to likely be water. Texas already is out of the sugar cane business because they don't have enough water to grow it anymore. Arizona is facing possible unlivable conditions in the next couple of decades because they're running out of water. If we have less people needing things... GOOD. We're not gonna go extinct. People like to fuck. Always have, always will. We will reproduce. So pushing for more and more kids is just... stupid.
The only reason they're doing this is because neo-Nazis fear this "great replacement" thing. Tucker Carlson jabbers about it, the Nazis chanted about it in Charlottesville. They aren't fearful of running out of people... they're fearful of running out of WHITE people. Or not running out, just out of being outnumbered.
They want to be able to have the numbers needed to keep treating everybody else shitty. If they can't do it via outbreeding them, they will eventually start ethnic cleansing. Conservatives are that afraid of ever getting treated the way they treated other people when they had the chance.
They're just shitty human beings. It's time to stop catering to them.
All this came after the many mocking remarks about rainbow flags, and the demands for the Ten Commandments on the wall of every classroom, and the dark warning — delivered by a smiling young mother in a flowery dress — that the supposedly trans-crazed Left “literally conspired to kidnap struggling, mentally ill children whose parents refused to mutilate them.”
Okay, this thing. Now, if parents were actually getting little kids sex changes, I'd be against that. I don't care if somebody wants trans surgery -- it's weird to me, but weird doesn't necessarily mean bad, and everybody should live the life they want to live as long as they aren't hurting anyone else, and if that's what it takes for them to pursue their happiness, then, go for it, I'm all for it -- but the should wait until they're an age to make up their mind about something that drastic.
And, they are. Because trans surgery on little kids doesn't work anyway. Not to go overmuch into the gory details, but if you've ever seen this done (and I have -- I watched a film called Shocking Asia that showed it graphically, and WOW I don't wanna see that again) you know that you have to have fully matured genitals to have it work. They don't just cut off a penis -- they skin it and tuck it inside to make the vagina. It needs to be as big as possible to make that work. A little kid's wee-wee will not be enough to make a vagina, and it won't "grow into it." And a woman-to-man requires as big a clitoris as possible to create a penis from.
So all this "mutilating kids" stuff is not how things work, anyway -- it's an ignorant conservative fantasy.
And it was after an animated Stephen Miller, dressed in a tan summer suit, spent 10 straight minutes thundering about the most important issue facing this country: the epidemic of military-aged men from foreign countries sneaking across our shamefully porous border to prey upon beautiful, innocent American women. “Not one more life should be stolen by illegal immigration!” Miller proclaimed, referring to the American women, not to the immigrants themselves. “To the Democrat party I say: I have nothing to discuss with you when you are letting criminal migrants rape and murder American citizens!”
I'm not for immigrants murdering women either. Nobody is. But the incidence of that happening are FAR below native-born conservative men murdering women with unregulated guns, and conservatives don't wanna do a fucking thing about THAT. In fact, they get furious if anyone tries to.
After this entire morning of aggressive admonishments to channel our masculinity into breeding, church, and striking down in cold blood anyone looking sideways at our precious American women, all of us — the men in navy blue suits, the dozens of clean shaven, college-aged conservatives in imitation blue suits and sensible long skirts, and me — packed into Breakout Room C for the “Big Tech and Big Porn” session. The room, like the rest of the conference, was freezing cold, presumably to squelch any latent sexual urges that might arise among the youngsters. All attention was focused on the problem of Big Porn, and its Big, Throbbing Penumbras. Together, we wrestled with the hardest problems of our time. “The founding, of course, had nothing like Pornhub,” noted the Texas attorney, with a respectful nod to originalism, “But I think it’s safe to say the founders would not have considered Pornhub to be constitutionally protected speech.”
I have a friend -- we'll call him an acquaintance now because he went MAGA-Nazi so fuck that guy -- who is very pro-Trump, but extremely ignorant about EVERYTHING. He gets all his "news" from kook websites like conservativetreehouse and AceofSpadesHQ and shuns the "mainstream media" because he doesn't trust any of it. So this guy definitely has NOT heard about them cracking down on porn.
It'll upset the hell out of him if he ever finds out what he's backing, because all this guy does is review books and cries if there isn't enough explicit sexual content in 'em. He LOVES porn.
I'm betting he won't be too thrilled that they're trying to outlaw contraception, either.
The greatest accomplishment of those on the panel was getting states to pass laws requiring users to upload their ID to verify their age in order to view porn sites, which the hosts touted as a solid first step down the road to stopping adults from looking at naked pictures of other adults. Emily Jashinsky, a podcaster and editor at The Federalist, lectured on the traps of technology. “The internet removed even more friction from the process of sexual gratification, putting cameras and porn stores in our pockets every second of every day,” she said. “I think the example of a man walking up to a bodega counter with a pornography magazine is a very interesting one. And comparing that to what it’s like to shop for porn and consume porn on the internet. You’ve got to have a physical interaction with the cashier in that situation.”
The man in front of me nodded vigorously.
During the question-and-answer period, one query about whether “ethically sourced pornography” was possible drew a firm “No. Just no,” from one policy analyst —
Anybody worked out a scorecard yet on what freedoms we now have that these freedom-lovin' conservatives want to take away? So far the only freedom I know they aren't attacking is the gun thing. They'll get around to that, though, after the right-wingers have killed the liberals. THEN they'll have to hand in their guns. And they will, because they always obey their religious leaders.
but Adam Candeub, a Michigan State law professor with a scholarly air, pushed back. “There’s a danger for American conservatism that we end up seeming anti-male,” he warned of the porn restriction crusade. “American conservatism should be pro-male libido.”
Yeah, god forbid the conservatives seem "anti-male."
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I glanced surreptitiously around the room. Was there hidden sexual tension here? Were the hormones of the young conservatives raging millimeters below the surface of their Brooks Brothers suits? Were we, collectively, doing our part to support the male libido? No matter where I looked, I saw no licking of lips, no shifting of hips, no flickering of eyes to indicate that the thoughts of everyone there were drifting into unseemly territory. The male mood seemed to be more represented by the recent college grad who announced proudly that he had led a “rather ecumenical coalition” of students trying to get porn banned on campus. Likewise, the women present gave no indication of falling prey to the “trans influencers” that Candeub warned were spreading “transsexualism among girls.” No! The libidos in that room were all focused on the proper goal: To wed! To breed! And to create a morally upright army to save America!
From? From… from… from everyone else.
The fun thing is, as soon as these people take over, the religious sectarian wars are going to start. You know where this goes, right? First, they want to make sure the Christians are in charge of the country. Once that happens, we'll start determining which Christians are running the show. Then there's sectarian violence.
Anybody really think right-wing Christians are above being the Christian equivalent of Shias and Sunnis? My small town has five pages in the Yellow Pages for Baptist churches alone, because these assholes can't agree on ANYTHING. Make a "Christian nation" and you'll have LESS peace than ever. Sects and violence...
“The second American revolution”
The Heritage Foundation is one of the defining institutions of Washington, D.C.’s omnipresent political class. Its headquarters are in an impressive eight-story stone building on Massachusetts Avenue just blocks from the U.S. Capitol. It had, as of 2022, more than $100 million in annual revenue and $332 million in net assets. Its president is Kevin Roberts, a tan, bald man with an easy smile, who was paid $622,000 in 2022, not including the value of private jet travel. Roberts, a PhD and former college president, has one big enemy: the elites. “I’m sorry that you’ve got to be in the swamp to do this, but this is in fact an imperial city that we’re in the process of taking back,” Roberts told the assembled crowd on the opening morning of the conference, before reeling off a list of D.C. think tank people for special thanks.
“We’re in the second American revolution,” he said. “Today’s establishment Washington doesn’t understand this yet.” Roberts, who works in Washington, is a friendly face of an apocalyptic movement. He decried the out of touch “coastal elites” and hapless “Beltway Republicans” to the room full of Republican Capitol Hill staffers and D.C. foundation executives. The Left, he warned, is “totalitarian in its mission” and “practically jihadist in its theocratic fanaticism” and has, I was surprised to learn, “limitless resources.” If they win, “we will cease to be a nation at all” and become “subservient to a religion without God, in a land without hope.” Then he wrapped it up to polite applause, and everyone filed out to attack the platters of pastries that were laid out in the Capital Hilton’s mezzanine.
"A religion without God." Ironically, that's MAGA. What in MAGA ideology actually comes from Jesus's teachings? None of it. It's anti-Christian if anything.
Then we have one of the writers of Project 2025 saying it's a new American revolution, and "it will be bloodless... if the left allows it."
Yeah, the rapist won't kill you if you just quit struggling and take it.
The conservatives don't want it to be bloodless. They need blood spilled when people fight back against them so they can justify cracking down and starting pogroms. Will it go as far as building death camps? Wouldn't surprise me. Project 2025 already talks about building camps to put the migrants they're deporting in. Once you've got the camps, you can put anybody in there. And their enemies list is intentionally vague. It's just basically "anybody they don't like," anybody against the "Christian agenda."
And there's also a guy, Ivan Raiklin, an ex-Green Beret neo-Nazi who swears that he has an army of armed thugs all ready to go, and as soon as Trump wins, they're going to start going down their enemies list. He says they'll be visiting Democratic congresspeople and live-streaming it as they haul them and their families out of their homes and slaughter them.
And people are just sitting around, letting this guy talk like that. The right thing to do would be let let it be known that if that guy gets anybody hurt, he's going to be taken out for it. But Democrats are timid about violence so you can't even say you'll retaliate.
And the right still wants to claim they aren't fascist.
If they aren't... what is?
And it goes on, but I babbled enough for now.