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Judge who denied teenager an abortion, citing her school grades, reappointed by Florida Gov DeSantis

Sinéad Baker Dec 23, 2022, 8:59 AM

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis reappointed a judge who denied a teen an abortion partly over her grades.
Judge Jared Smith talked about her grades and said she had "less than average" intelligence in his ruling.
He later lost re-election, but has now been appointed to the Sixth District Court of Appeal.

Florida's Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has reappointed a judge who lost his re-election after denying a teenager an abortion, citing her school grades.

Jared Smith lost re-election as a judge on the Hillsborough County Court in August, with abortion rights activists backing his opponent, the Tampa Bay Times reported.

However, on Tuesday DeSantis appointed Smith to serve as a judge on the newly created Sixth District Court of Appeal.

In January, Smith denied a 17-year-old girl an abortion, citing her intelligence as part of the reason.

He wrote in his ruling that: "The court found her intelligence to be less than average because '[w]hile she claimed that her grades were 'Bs' during her testimony, her GPA is currently 2.0."

"Clearly, a 'B' average would not equate to a 2.0 GPA," Smith wrote, Insider's Rebecca Cohen reported.

The teenager, who was not identified in court documents, was seeking an abortion without parental consent, which is typically needed in the state for those seeking the procedure who are aged under 18.

Under Florida's law, parental consent can be waived if the court finds "that the minor is sufficiently mature to decide whether to terminate her pregnancy."

Smith said her testimony showed "either a lack of intelligence or credibility."

The teenager successfully appealed Smith's ruling, with the Second District Court ruling 2-1 in her favor, Insider previously reported.

Smith's new appointment will take effect on January 1 2023, DeSantis' office said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-reappoints-florida-judge-who-denied-teen-abortion-citing-grades-2022-12?link_id=9&can_id=1b54be4c01232388704f6dbb31c47a1c&source=email-house-gop-revolts-against-mcconnell-2&email_referrer=email_1773828&email_subject=star-16-witness-details-escape-from-trump-world

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DeSantis Allies Plot the Hostile Takeover of a Liberal College

Opinion, Michelle Goldberg
January 9, 2023

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New College of Florida has a reputation for being the most progressive public college in the state. X González — a survivor of the Parkland school shooting who, as Emma González, became a prominent gun control activist — recently wrote of their alma mater, “In the queer space of New College, changing your pronouns, name or presentation is a nonevent.” In The Princeton Review’s ranking of the best public colleges and universities for “making an impact” — measured by things like student engagement, community service and sustainability efforts — New College comes in third.

Naturally, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida wants to demolish it, at least as it currently exists. On Friday, he announced six new appointments to New College’s 13-member board of trustees, including Chris Rufo, who orchestrated the right’s attack on critical race theory, and Matthew Spalding, a professor and dean at Hillsdale College, a conservative Christian school in Michigan with close ties to Donald Trump. (A seventh member will soon be appointed by Florida’s Board of Governors, which is full of DeSantis allies.)

The new majority’s plan, Rufo told me just after his appointment was announced, is to transform New College into a public version of Hillsdale. “We want to provide an alternative for conservative families in the state of Florida to say there is a public university that reflects your values,” he said.

The fight over the future of New College is about more than just the fate of this small school in Sarasota. For DeSantis, it’s part of a broader quest to crush any hint of progressivism in public education, a quest he’d likely take national if he ever became president. For Rufo, a reconstructed New College would serve as a model for conservatives to copy all over the country. “If we can take this high-risk, high-reward gambit and turn it into a victory, we’re going to see conservative state legislators starting to reconquer public institutions all over the United States,” he said. Should he prevail, it will set the stage for an even broader assault on the academic freedom of every instructor whose worldview is at odds with the Republican Party.

Rufo often talks about the “long march through the institutions,” a phrase coined by the German socialist Rudi Dutschke in 1967 but frequently attributed to the Italian communist Antonio Gramsci. Thwarted in their hope of imminent revolution, the new left of Dutschke’s generation sought instead to bore into political and cultural institutions, working within the system to change the basic assumptions of Western society. Rufo’s trying, he said, to “steal the strategies and the principles of the Gramscian left, and then to organize a kind of counterrevolutionary response to the long march through the institutions.”

This grandiose project has several parts. Rufo has been unparalleled in fanning public education culture wars, whipping up anger first against critical race theory and then against teaching on L.G.B.T.Q. issues. This year, he is turning his attention to diversity, equity and inclusion programs, and, with his colleagues at the Manhattan Institute, will soon unveil model legislation to abolish such programs at state schools. In New College, he sees a chance to create a new type of educational institution to replace those he’s trying to destroy. When we spoke, he compared his plans to Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter.

Later this month, Rufo said, he’ll travel to New College with a “landing team” of board members, lawyers, consultants and political allies. “We’re going to be conducting a top-down restructuring,” he said, with plans to “design a new core curriculum from scratch” and “encode it in a new academic master plan.” Given that Hillsdale, the template for this reimagined New College, worked closely with the Trump administration to create a “patriotic education” curriculum, this master plan will likely be heavy on American triumphalism. Rufo hopes to move fast, saying that the school’s academic departments “are going to look very different in the next 120 days.”

The values of the people who are already at New College are of little concern to Rufo, who, like several other new trustees, doesn’t live in Florida. Speaking of current New College students who chose it precisely for its progressive culture, Rufo said: “We’re happy to work with them to make New College a great place to continue their education. Or we’d be happy to work with them to help them find something that suits them better.”

Of course, as both leftist revolutionaries and colonialists have learned over the years, replacing one culture with another can be harder than anticipated. New College students may not go quietly. Steve Shipman, a professor of physical chemistry and president of the faculty union, points out that tenured professors are covered by a collective bargaining agreement, which makes it hard to fire them unless there’s cause. People like Rufo “are making statements to make impact,” Shipman said. “And I really don’t know how viable some of those statements are on the ground.”

We’ll soon find out. “We anticipate that this is going to be a process that involves conflict,” said Rufo.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/opinion/chris-rufo-florida-ron-desantis.html

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So yup, even Fox News admits that DeathSantis is a miserable prick.


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DeatSantis, as big a prick as Trumpenis but with less jizz squirting out of his hole.


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Excellent dissection of Meatball Ron.



I know most conservatives are daddy-issue-having authoritarians, but I'm surprised that even they are so eager to be slaves to one sociopathic asshole's way of thinking. They have no idea of the amount of freedom they're giving away out of spite just to watch DeSantis "piss off the libs."

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/disney-thin-ice-suggestions-fixing-090248877.html

Disney on thin ice: Suggestions for 'fixing' Disney movies after DeSantis' takeover


Frank Cerabino, Palm Beach Post
Sun, March 12, 2023 at 4:02 AM CDT·4 min read


News item: Gov. Ron DeSantis removed Walt Disney World’s self-governing status in Florida, and appointed a board of partisan loyalists to oversee the privately owned entertainment company.

DeSantis hinted that the board may one day be used to compel Disney to stop trying to inject “woke ideology” on children.

“When you lose your way, you’ve got to have people that are going to tell you the truth,” DeSantis said. “So we hope they can get back on. But I think all of these board members very much would like to see the type of entertainment that all families can appreciate.”


From: Floridians Always Seeing Child Indoctrinating Story Themes (FASCIST)


To: Disney’s new oversight board

Subject: Suggestions for rewriting Disney movies
Our governor, Ron DeSantis, hinted that a new board in Florida that will be oversee Disney may one day be used to compel Disney to stop trying to inject “woke ideology” on children.
Our governor, Ron DeSantis, hinted that a new board in Florida that will be oversee Disney may one day be used to compel Disney to stop trying to inject “woke ideology” on children.

First of all, we here at FASCIST congratulate you on your appointments. And we look forward to some of your individual efforts to determine whether tap water makes people gay.

As you engage in your important work to re-educate Disney executives and coerce them to provide what the governor has called “entertainment that all families can appreciate,” we here at FASCIST have a suggestion.

Start by forcing the company to produce new versions of Disney’s classic movies that comport with the governor’s vision. You can call them “freedom versions” of the movies. Or better yet, figure out a way to use the word “liberty” in mandating the rewrites.

To get you started, here are our rewrite suggestions for four Disney movies:
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

We love the title. No need to change that. Snow White is hitting the core demographic. And it’s so refreshing to see the word “dwarfs” rather than “little people” or whatever the inclusion mob calls them these days.

But the storyline needs a complete rewrite. The way it exists now, the plot leads to a celebration of Snow White becoming woke. Not on our watch.

Instead of her being asleep, Snow White needs to be rescued by the prince from her job as a union teacher at a traditional government school that makes hardcore, graphic pornography part of the kindergarten curriculum.

More:Frank Cerabino: School announcement outside jail? High cost of politicizing school boards in Florida



As for the dwarfs, recast them as undocumented asylum seekers who are taking "hi-ho" opportunities from American workers. In the rewrite, the dwarfs get rounded up by a state-run immigrant dragnet and lured into boarding a plane to a distant forest, where they’ve been falsely promised good jobs in a clean-coal mine.

Also, a little product placement would be in order. Instead of the witch handing Snow White an apple in the forest, make it a Chick-fil-A sandwich outside a Hobby Lobby.

More on DeSantis vs Disney: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis exacts punishment, takes over Disney district on eve of book launch
Beauty and the Beast

This one is going to need major fixing. First of all, the heroine, Belle, is obsessed with reading books — when we know that books are very dangerous and require strict oversight by self-appointed community guardians.

Showing Belle with her nose in a book all the time is just Disney indoctrinating children to the evils of knowledge, when she should be out shooting firearms with Gaston.

Gaston, the big, white, hairy firearms enthusiast in the movie, is cast as the villain. But he should be the true hero of the story. The tap water’s not turning him gay, that’s for sure. Here’s a character that knows his pronouns.

But instead, what does this movie do? It makes children root for the large colored beast to woo the fair-skinned Belle. This is just some heavy-handed nod to inclusion, equality and diversity that’s being pushed on children. And on behalf of America's most persecuted and long-suffering group, white people, we won’t tolerate it.

The proper match for Belle is the open-carry Gaston and the classical Western European heritage he represents. As the movie stands now, Belle and the Beast sip tea together and learn to dance with each other. How gay is that!

In the rewrite, she would be out with Gaston, shooting animals for sport and standing their ground against inner-village people. And the only book she’ll need is a cookbook to serve him meals after she becomes his subservient, no-birth-control wife.
The Little Mermaid

Ursula the Sea Witch is clearly trans. This implies she may have experienced gender-affirming care as a teen, which is outlawed in Florida.

Now that we’re under a state edict that pretends that transgender teens don’t exist, it’s best not to even hint at it with a movie character like Ursula.

Suggestion: The octopus Ursula could be reimagined as a cartoon villain named “Pelosiula,” who wants to “use government to take the legs out from everyone.”
Aladdin

The hero, Aladdin, is an inner-city street urchin from a foreign country who commits petty crimes and tries to woo Princess Jasmine.

What are little girls supposed to glean from this? That they should fall in love with the street criminals running rampant in Joe Biden’s lawless, open-borders America?

And as for flying carpets, they are nothing more than a metaphor for electric vehicles, and all other threats to our patriotic oil and gas industry, which we need to continue to subsidize no matter what.

This one’s going to need a major rewrite: Get rid of the brown people. Set it in the Rust Belt, and make the main character “Al,” a hard-working HVAC repairman who is against paying other people’s college loans.

Oh, and the problem-solving genie needs to be red, not blue.


Song of the South, meanwhile, can be reissued as is, with its great conservative-pleasing message of "the coloreds enjoyed slavery, it was a happy musical time for them."

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Insurers slashed Hurricane Ian payouts far below damage estimates, documents and insiders reveal

A Washington Post investigation has found that some policyholders had their claims cut by more than 80 percent

By Brianna Sacks
March 11, 2023 at 10:06 a.m. EST

FORT MYERS, Fla. — When insurance adjuster Jordan Lee entered the cream-colored house battered by Hurricane Ian, the smell from the rain-soaked carpet made it hard to breathe. Piles of pink insulation covered the worn, white couches, he recalled, and poured from the collapsed ceiling, left gaping from the storm’s 150 mph winds. He photographed debris flecked on the carpet and walls, chunks of roof in the yard, and broken screens and gutters around a pool filled with palm fronds.

The home, which belongs to retired couple Terry and Mary Sebastian, sits on a canal in Rotonda West, Fla., a coastal community that bore the brunt of Ian when the storm made landfall on Sept. 28. The entire place would need to be dehumidified, the roof completely replaced, the insulation torn out and the tattered pool enclosure rebuilt. It would be about $200,000 to repair the damage, the licensed adjuster calculated in his estimate for Heritage Property & Casualty Insurance Co.


Terry and Mary Sebastian at their damaged home in Rotonda West, Fla., in March, five months after Hurricane Ian ravaged the area. (Thomas Simonetti for The Washington Post)

Insulation covers furniture and the floor at the Sebastians’ home after the storm. (Thomas Simonetti for The Washington Post)
But when Lee checked in on his report about 10 days later, his stomach dropped, he said. It had been drastically whittled down, with entire portions, such as the one detailing issues in the primary bedroom, removed. The amount of insulation that needed to be redone was cut by half, and his estimate now said that one-third of the roof should be fixed, instead of it being fully replaced. The homeowners were slated to receive a total of $27,000. The changes were made without Lee’s knowledge or consent, he said, but his name was still on the final report, according to documents seen by The Washington Post.

After major disasters like Ian, insurance companies often bring on third-party firms like Tristar Claim Solutions, an independent adjusting company that Lee worked for as a contractor, to help with the hundreds of thousands of claims.

During the insurance claims process, it’s standard for field adjusters, who are trained to assess damaged homes, to collaborate with those back in the office to make minor edits, discuss aspects of the claim and alter line items if, for example, the carrier has evidence that damage was from a prior event, according to adjusters and insurance industry experts. That is how the system is supposed to work.

But that’s not what has been happening in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian, Lee and others said.

Instead, Lee and other adjusters contracted by regional insurance carriers say that managers have been changing their work by lowering totals, rewriting descriptions of damage and deleting accompanying photos without their approval. These actions to devalue damage are the latest example of the insurance crisis in Florida.

After years of more frequent and intense storms, national carriers have pulled back from the market and smaller, regional carriers with smaller financial reserves jumped in. In the wake of Hurricane Ian, those companies have been aggressively seeking to limit payouts to policyholders by altering the work of licensed adjusters, according to a Washington Post investigation. As a result, homeowners are left footing much of the bill for repairs, exposing an untenable gap between the cost of storm damage and what insurers are willing to pay to fix it.


Jordan Lee, an independent insurance adjuster, inspected homes following Hurricane Ian and said his reports were changed without his consent. The company he worked for as a contractor said insurers have reasons for altering claims and that estimates are revised “throughout the entire industry at the direction of the insurance carriers. They have the final say.” (Andy Jacobsohn for The Washington Post)
The Post’s examination included interviews with dozens of policyholder advocates, attorneys and Hurricane Ian survivors as well as five insurance adjusters, who oversaw more than 100 claims for Heritage and Florida Peninsula Insurance Co., another regional carrier. The Post also reviewed 13 original and modified claims, which included hundreds of pages of estimates, photos and general loss reports, as well as internal records, final payment letters, emails and carrier guidelines.

The documents show that a dozen policyholders and their families had their Hurricane Ian claims reduced by 45 to 97 percent.

In one claim reviewed by The Post, a nearly $500,000 damage estimate on a house with a mostly tarped roof was reduced to about $13,000. In another, the desk adjusters blamed roof storm damage on past wear and tear, meaning it would not be covered.


The original and altered insurance report detailing damage to the Sebastians' home. (Obtained by The Washington Post)
In three cases, The Post obtained final determination letters, and the amounts sent to homeowners matched the altered claims. For two of those families, their original claims were cut below their deductibles, resulting in no payment.

The adjusters, attorneys and policyholder advocates allege that the independent adjusting firms were internally lowering estimates under the direction of the insurance carriers who contracted them. Emails obtained by The Post detail how independent adjusting firms followed orders from carriers to write claims in specific ways that significantly reduced payouts.

The people interviewed for this investigation decided to speak out because, they allege, the ease and scale with which Ian claims have been altered and gutted represents a tipping point for Florida’s insurance industry. The revised claims inaccurately represent their work, for which they said they still have not been fully paid, and they want more oversight, reform and accountability.

The Post made multiple attempts to interview and seek comment from Heritage, Florida Peninsula and Tristar, sending each company detailed lists of questions pertaining to the allegations and evidence in this investigation. Heritage did not reply to calls and emails. Representatives for Florida Peninsula said that “everyone is tied up at the moment” and they would not be able “to help with this one.”

Tristar said that because of a “confidentiality agreement with Heritage Insurance we are unable to comment on Heritage Policy, procedures and/or estimating guidelines.” However, the company said it has reasons for altering claims, and that “estimates are revised/collaborated throughout the entire industry at the direction of the insurance carriers. They have the final say.”

Some in Florida’s insurance industry blame the flailing market on lawyers and contractors who they allege have taken advantage of the system to sue carriers, jack up estimates and use roofing scams as ways to profit off disasters. It’s actually the carriers, they argue, that have been the victims of fraud and bad behavior.

“Florida is the worst of all states when it comes to frivolous lawsuits and roof-replacement fraud schemes. Many claims are not legitimate,” said Mark Friedlander, the director of communications for the Insurance Information Institute, an industry association. To combat those issues, lawmakers have recently passed several pro-insurance industry laws that target attorneys and contractors, he said.

Friedlander also attributed the unusually long delays and lower payouts to “the complexity of the claims” and hurricane deductibles. For the most part, companies “have been taking care of their customers,” he said.


A billboard for an insurance attorney in Fort Myers Beach, Fla. (Thomas Simonetti for The Washington Post)
However, the American Policyholder Association, a nonprofit insurance industry watchdog group, disagrees. It said in a statement that it has found “compelling evidence of what appears to be multiple instances of systematic criminal fraud perpetrated to cheat policyholders out of fair insurance claims” and will be submitting criminal referrals to authorities “in Florida & several other states” in the coming months.

Four homeowners confirmed to The Post that they had received only a small portion of what they had been promised in their determination letters from Heritage and Florida Peninsula, or were struggling to get straight answers and considering taking legal action. Meanwhile, their homes are still heavily damaged or uninhabitable. And more than 33,000 Florida homeowner claims linked to Ian are still open without payment, while more than 125,000 were closed without payment, according to the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation. Nearly 56,000 claims were open with payment and 183,235 were closed with payment.


Excerpts of an original and altered insurance claim show changes to an adjuster's description of damage. (Obtained by The Washington Post)
Florida’s insurance market has been teetering toward collapse for years. After destructive storms in 2005, several big carriers including State Farm pulled back coverage in the state, and newer, more thinly financed, smaller companies swooped in and began to operate. Then came 2017, one of the costliest hurricane seasons ever. Hurricane Michael battered Florida the following year.

Adjusters said they started to see carriers greatly reduce damage estimates, fully deny roof replacements more often and force claims of a certain value into litigation. Payouts started to get delayed or not come at all, adjusters and attorneys said.

At the same time, rates kept rising, and fast. Florida homeowners paid an average of $4,231 for home insurance in 2022, nearly three times the price in any other state — and rates are expected to increase again this year. Ten property insurers that operated in Florida have gone insolvent since January 2021. About 125 property insurers remain in the state, but experts said many are either not taking on new business or are greatly limiting policies because of the volatile market.

But the adjusters interviewed for this investigation said the major cuts and revisions to Hurricane Ian survivors’ claims are unlike anything they’ve ever seen before.

“I wrote 44 reports for Heritage Property & Casualty, and 100 percent of them were altered to where I did not recognize them. Every single one,” Lee said in an interview. “They manipulated our estimates without actually collaborating. I didn’t get a phone call from someone saying, ‘Hey, Jordan, can we go over this estimate?’ I didn’t get a text. I didn’t get an email. Nothing. I can get in trouble for that. It’s my name going on these reports, no one else’s.”


Plastic sheeting covers the entrance to a room at Terry and Mary Sebastian's home in March. (Thomas Simonetti for The Washington Post)
‘They are ruining my life’
Mary Sebastian, 70, spent hours on her knees last week trying to scrub storm gunk and other crusted filth out of their tiled kitchen floor. Five months after Ian, half the walls in their home are still gutted to the studs with wires hanging down, and the couple has been trying to do as many of the repairs as they can on their own. The Sebastians said Heritage has been trying to “wear them out” by not paying their claim or answering their calls and emails and sending them to four different desk adjusters.

So far they’ve received one $2,500 check for living expenses, despite having submitted hundreds of receipts for their hotels, food and other expenses, emails show, and another for $10,000, which went directly toward repairing their roof. Much of their furniture is ruined, the couple said, and they are in the process of applying for a loan to continue the repair work. After The Post contacted their insurer and the Florida Department of Financial Services regarding their case, the Sebastians said they received an additional $4,092 to repay what they’d spent on food and housing through Jan. 28.

Terry Sebastian said he filed two complaints with the state’s insurance commissioner about Heritage before he started speaking with The Post. He’d had a feeling, he said, that his insurance company was “lying.”

“They are ruining people’s lives. They are ruining my life,” the 69-year-old said. “I tell them I’m going to go bankrupt if they don’t pay me, but they don’t care.”


An email from Terry Sebastian to Heritage Property & Casualty Insurance Co. (Obtained by The Washington Post)
State data, last updated Thursday, shows 708,255 Hurricane Ian claims — including those of homeowners and other policyholders — but about 34 percent of them have either been rejected or are still unpaid. The 90-day period that insurance companies have to pay or deny a claim ended in late December.

Hurricane Ian, a Category 4 hurricane and one of the strongest storms to ever hit the United States, was Florida’s costliest on record and the most expensive natural disaster globally of 2022. The densely populated southwestern part of the state had not experienced a storm of that magnitude since 2004, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said, and its “intense winds, heavy rainfall, and catastrophic storm surges” peeled off roofs and inundated homes with “1-in-1000 year” amounts of water. Ian caused $112.9 billion in damage, the second-largest insured loss on record after Hurricane Katrina, according to a report from reinsurer Swiss Re.

As the weeks after the storm turned into months and claims continued to pile up, Lee and other adjusters said they kept getting calls from increasingly frustrated and anxious policyholders about their final claim estimates or lack thereof. For many, that 90-day deadline was coming up, and they were still without answers, habitable homes and now savings.

“It’s messed-up. You know, the whole point of having insurance is to be able to properly put your property back as if the disaster never happened,” Lee said. “That’s the whole point for that protection.”

Major damage but only partial payout
Five days after Ian ripped across Florida, Lee received an email from a Tristar claims manager he’d worked with in the past. The company was looking for “experienced adjusters for our client Heritage Property and Casualty,” and promised good pay and “all the volume one could ever hope for.” Lee decided to join the team.

But two weeks into his assignment, Lee said, Heritage gave adjusters updated guidelines essentially barring them from writing claims to replace any roofs. Hearing nothing about the 44 reports he had turned in, Lee started to become suspicious. It was taking unusually long to get paid. Lee and other adjusters make a commission on claims based on a fee schedule set by the carrier.


“The whole point of having insurance is to be able to properly put your property back as if the disaster never happened,” Lee says. (Andy Jacobsohn for The Washington Post)
Lee said he logged into the systems that adjusters and insurance companies use to track claims. Like his 113-page report for the Sebastians’ home, his other estimates were rearranged and cut down, he said, with photos and line items deleted, and summaries changed.

Many of his photo captions were changed, too, he said, and entire sections missing, according to a review of the documents by The Post. An image showing a crack in the garage ceiling, which suggests structural problems from the storm’s impact, now read, “Apparent non-loss related.” Documents reviewed by The Post show that his claims manager had heavily revised his photo sheet and made other major changes.

Cutting a valid claim estimate without factual basis “is potential fraud,” said Friedlander, who also worked for two major insurance companies and who did not review the Sebastians’ case. In most cases, if a field adjuster has done his job correctly and broken down every line in great detail, the desk adjuster will not need to make significant changes, he said. It’s usually a “smooth process with communication between the two,” Friedlander said.

“If a company intentionally changes the estimate to not pay out a loss, that could be considered fraud,” he said.


Daniel Van Sickle at his damaged home in Venice, Fla., in March. (Thomas Simonetti for The Washington Post)

A view outside Van Sickle's home. (Thomas Simonetti for The Washington Post)
As Lee walked through an essentially totaled home in Venice, Fla., in early October, water from the still-mushy carpet splashed onto his calves, he recalled. Like in the Sebastians’ house, insulation hung from the exposed ceiling. The drywall would need to be removed, rooms deeply sanitized and the entire roof replaced, as it “was blow[n] off,” he wrote in a loss report for Heritage obtained by The Post, “causing significant damage to the interior of the home.”

Repairing it would cost nearly $200,000, he estimated. But in the final report for the homeowners, Daniel and Amy Van Sickle, entire sections of his work such as “tear out and bag wet insulation” and “water damage dry out” were removed, and the final amount lowered to $24,619.

Weeks later, on Jan. 9, Heritage emailed the Van Sickles telling them it would issue a payment. The explanation letter said the carrier “received the detailed field adjuster estimate in the amount of $24,619.46 for covered damage.” Along with it was the revised estimate, with Lee’s name on it.


A letter from Heritage Property & Casualty Insurance Co. to the Van Sickles explaining its coverage decision. (Obtained by The Washington Post)
However, after subtracting from their deductible, the couple would only get $3,204.60.

After The Post contacted Heritage with questions about the Van Sickles’ claim, the couple said they received a revised estimate with an additional $1,000.

“It’s the classic horror story right now,” Van Sickle said. “This is a lot of money to a lot of people, and you can’t help but wonder what happens to them when they don’t get it. Those people will suffer greatly.”


The original and altered report describing damage to the Van Sickles' home after Hurricane Ian. (Obtained by The Washington Post)
‘We have never seen that before’
At the end of September, Ben Mandell and Mark Vinson, two veteran independent adjusters, started handling claims for Florida Peninsula Insurance Co., a regional carrier that is rated as financially stable and insures about 181,000 homes across the state. Shortly after starting on 30 Ian-related claims, they too started noticing unusual behavior, such as claims not being processed, or desk adjusters or supervisors gutting or rejecting their reports of what they saw was credible damage. These actions further delayed payouts to residents.

What was also strange, the adjusters said, was that they were seeing the same or similar edits in all of their reports, even though the homes were in different areas and built in different years. The denial of wind-battered roofs seemed to be a “pattern,” Vinson said.

“We had 150-mile-per-hour winds come through and destroy roofs, and these folks decided they would not replace any of the roofs, but pick an arbitrary number of shingles to repair and just replace those,” said Mandell, who owns a home in Florida. “We have never seen that before.”

When hiring contracting companies to help out on major disasters, insurance companies set guidelines for each storm that those workers have to follow, insurance experts, adjusters and attorneys said. Essentially, those guidelines dictate how much the insurer believes should be allocated for that storm, what it will cover, and how to describe and document the damage.


Stranded boats rest against Edison Bridge in Fort Myers, Fla. (Thomas Simonetti for The Washington Post)
In multiple emails obtained by The Post, managers at Tristar and another third-party adjusting firm referenced these agreements.

On Oct. 27, for example, a claims director at Tristar wrote to all adjusters that “we are seeing too many reports describing damage and mentioning ‘wind’ as the cause of loss. Per Heritage: WE DO NOT DETERMINE COVERAGE!” he wrote, reminding them, “Do NOT say what caused it!”

“Heritage does not want to see that word [wind] in photo descriptions or in the General loss reports,” he said. “Let’s make sure we are just describing the damages we see and leave the cause (wind) out of it!”

He thanked them for their “hard work” and said that higher-ups were “seeing the fruits of [their] efforts.”

Mandell said that after he realized what was happening to his reports, he grew uncomfortable, spoke up to his manager and was fired. In their email exchange, the manager lambasted Mandell for arguing over revisions.

“You have been told repeatedly that the desk adjusters have the final say for what coverages are afforded, yet you continue to argue with the carriers when revisions are requested,” the manager wrote. “As an independent adjuster it is not your responsibility to make coverage decisions on behalf of the insurance carrier.”

In his reply, Mandell said he did not have a problem with desk adjusters making decisions, but what crossed the line was “a desk adjuster or anyone else demanding or threatening me to remove items off an estimate that are legitimately on that estimate. … I also have a problem with you folks removing items off of my estimates and leaving my name on that estimate making it look like I made the decision to remove those items when I did not.”

“I am not the only adjuster you are doing this to,” he said. “This illegal practice seems to be a standard practice on this deployment with you folks.”

His manager did not reply.

Asking lawmakers to take action
Over the past year, Florida Republicans called two special legislative sessions focused on the state’s insurance industry and passed more laws that further protect and insulate property insurance carriers, largely at the expense of homeowners. Two major industry wins include funneling $1 billion in taxpayer money into a reinsurance fund and stopping carriers from having to pay policyholders’ attorneys’ fees when they sue.

At the December session, Lee, Mandell, Vinson and other adjusters joined residents in speaking out against the legislation. Their testimony was covered by Insurance Journal.

After Mandell accused insurance carriers of fraudulent behavior that is “more widespread than any of us could have imagined,” Rep. Bob Rommel (R), the chair of the Commerce Committee, asked the group of adjusters to come to his office later with that information “to make sure the attorney general and [Office of Insurance Regulation] takes care of that.”

They did. And according to four people present, Rommel asked to see evidence and told the group, “If this is really happening, this needs to be taken care of,” Lee recalled. Vinson had brought a flash drive with dozens of files to show, but the representative said it was not safe for a government computer.

The next day, Dec. 14, Mandell emailed Rommel’s office with the evidence the lawmaker requested, including a file of four documents showing how his estimate of $40,468.54 of damage was revised to show $2,658. “You will note that they left my name on this bogus estimate,” the adjuster wrote in the email, obtained by The Washington Post.

In an email, Rommel told The Post that the adjusters came to his office with “no evidence. Told them the door was open if they could produce the evidence.” After multiple emails from The Post, Rommel’s office said that it had forwarded the adjuster’s email to the state’s chief financial officer, Jimmy Patronis, and that Patronis’s office will contact Mandell.

“We have asked the CFO’s office to keep us in the loop,” a spokesperson for Rommel said. The CFO’s office said in a statement that it has received the information from Rommel, met with the property owners from the report and that “an investigation is currently open and ongoing.”

Meanwhile, homeowners like the Sebastians don’t know how much longer they can last without a payment, let alone answers. Their temporary housing ended Monday and they had no choice but to move back into their home, which has a new roof but feels like a “construction zone,” Mary Sebastian said. Heritage promised them a check soon, she said, but they’ve heard that before. If they do get anything, they’re bracing for “pennies on the dollar.”

“I don’t know how much fight we have left in us,” she sighed. “I want to walk away.”

Her husband, though, refuses to.

“That’s what they want us to do,” Terry Sebastian said.

Photo illustrations by Emily Sabens.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/03/11/florida-insurance-claims-hurricane-ian/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F395d6df%2F640cb82ad8b4d160754bdf90%2F597731c9ae7e8a6816e29259%2F8%2F74%2F640cb82ad8b4d160754bdf90&wp_cu=aafd3d17a3b67330ad41efa06739fb22%7C42921c94-460c-11e0-a478-1231380f446b

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There is no truth to the rumor that Trump or the Dems are bussing in mountains of seaweed into Florida just to piss off Shorty D. sunny



https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/seaweed-sargassum-florida-beaches-miami-b2300698.html

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Shorty D is so tired of trying to castrate Disney that now he wants to suck off Putin.


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TOM CRUISE??? LOL, DeathSantis looks more like Trump's ass crack than he does Tom Cruise. Maybe Ron should dump the dead weight fish wife he's still married to and hook up with his true love, Emerald Robinson, out in the open. Trump would in a New York minute.


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DeSantis Allows Anti-“Woke” Giveaway To Big Wall Street Donors
May 16, 2023

Matthew Cunningham-Cook

As private equity donated to groups supporting Ron DeSantis, he oversaw a billion-dollar transfer of state employees’ retirement dollars into underperforming firms.

Florida governor and Republican presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis has been crusading against “woke” investments for allegedly threatening his state employees’ retirement funds. But the most imminent threat to Florida public employees’ retirement dollars appears to be the massive state pension investments that have gone to some of the Republican Party’s Wall Street donors under DeSantis’ watch.

Despite a federal anti-corruption rule designed to prevent donors from receiving pension investments, private equity executives have donated millions to political groups supporting DeSantis, all while the governor oversaw the transfer of more than $1 billion of Florida public employees’ retirement dollars into these donors’ high-fee, high-risk “alternative investments.”

A Lever review found that had the state pension fund instead been invested in a simple, low-cost index fund, compared to its present mix of holdings, teachers, police officers, and other state employees would have about $10 billion more in their retirement funds.

“From a distance, it sure looks like the pensioners are getting hurt here,” Kathleen Clark, an ethics expert and professor at the Washington University in Saint Louis School of Law, told The Lever. “It certainly seems like it raises the distinct possibility that the decisions that the pension board is making may be serving DeSantis’ political interests and not the pensioners’ interest.”

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The low-return, high-fee investment strategy under DeSantis — who serves with two other Republicans on the state pension board — has been harmful for the state’s retirees, who had already been struggling with sub-par retirement payouts.

But under DeSantis’ leadership, the state pension fund’s investments have been a boon for financial firms whose executives have delivered huge donations to the Republican Governors Association (RGA), which has pumped $22 million into the Friends of Ron DeSantis, a political committee that supported DeSantis’ gubernatorial campaigns and is expected to finance a super PAC supporting his 2024 presidential bid. Friends of Ron DeSantis was the largest recipient of RGA cash last cycle.

The pension fund’s underperformance comes as Republican legislative leaders in April put the kibosh on restoring annual cost-of-living adjustments for public employees that were cut in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.

The federal pay-to-play rule — which came into effect in 2011, in the wake of bribery scandals at pension funds across the country — was crafted to halt private equity firms and other investment managers from using campaign contributions to improperly influence pension fund decision makers. But the financial firms receiving pension money have donated to the RGA rather than directly to DeSantis — and federal officials have declined to enforce the rule’s anti-circumvention provisions.

DeSantis and the RGA did not respond to questions from The Lever.

“DeSantis Is Delivering For The Private Equity Industry”
As governor, DeSantis is the chairman of the Florida State Board of Administration (SBA), which appoints officials who make and approve investments for the state’s $180 billion retirement fund. The SBA’s other trustees are state Attorney General Ashley Moody and state Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis, two Republicans who are close allies of DeSantis.

Over the past few years, many of the Wall Street interests benefitting from DeSantis’ private equity investments have donated money that has ended up funding the Florida governor’s political committee.

Take Aeolus Capital Management hedge fund, which received a $50 million commitment from the Florida pension fund in May 2019, four months after DeSantis became governor, and has since delivered a negligible 0.7 percent annual return for state pensioners in four years, compared to an average annual 15.75 percent return for the S&P 500 index of major stocks.

Paul Singer, the founder and co-CEO of Elliott Management, which as of 2020 owned a majority stake in Aeolus, a reinsurance hedge fund based in Bermuda, hosted a 2021 Colorado meeting of elite conservative billionaires, called the American Opportunity Alliance, where DeSantis appeared alongside former Vice President Mike Pence and others. The following year, Singer pumped $750,000 into the RGA.

Three weeks after Singer’s donation, the RGA transferred $2 million into the Friends of Ron DeSantis group, which raised $177 million in the 2022 cycle. Singer also donated $500,000 to the RGA in March 2020.

Singer is well-known on the world stage for buying up the debt of countries in the Global South, like Argentina, then aggressively calling on payment. Singer also chairs the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank that employs Chris Rufo and Ilya Shapiro, leading propagators of the “critical race theory” panic.

While there has not been reporting since 2020 that shows whether Elliott continues to hold a majority stake in Aeolus, the CEO that Elliott installed in 2020, Andrew Bernstein, remains in place. Neither Aeolus nor Elliott responded to repeated requests for comment from The Lever.

Then there’s the private equity firm Thoma Bravo. At the end of March 2022, just four weeks after the Florida pension put $150 million into a Thoma Bravo fund, the group’s co-founder Carl Thoma donated $40,000 to the RGA. It came just two days after the RGA made its $2 million contribution to the DeSantis committee and appears to be Thoma’s first-ever contribution to the RGA.

The Florida pension made another $100 million commitment to a different Thoma Bravo fund in August of last year. The following month, Thoma donated another $100,000 to the RGA, and just two weeks later, the RGA donated $3 million to DeSantis.

Thoma Bravo has attracted controversy in the past year for its ownership of RealPage, a real estate technology platform that has driven coordinated increases in rent across the country, according to a ProPublica investigation.

Bradford Freeman of the private equity firm Freeman Spogli, meanwhile, donated $50,000 to the RGA in 2018, just 17 days before the RGA gave $1 million to the DeSantis political committee. The next year, his firm received a $100 million commitment from the Florida pension.

In 2015, Freeman Spogli executives hosted fundraisers for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and paid him lucrative speaking fees, after he had overseen investments in the firm during his tenure as chair of the SBA.

James Carey of Stone Point Capital donated $10,000 to the RGA just weeks before the 2018 election. The firm received two $100 million commitments from the Florida pension under DeSantis’s governorship, in 2020 and 2022, records show.

While the pay-to-play rule “prohibits acts done indirectly, which, if done directly, would violate the rule,” it does not explicitly cover contributions to super PACs or 527 groups like the Republican and Democratic Governors Associations. This is true even if the super PACs were controlled by the politician in question, or the 527 group was funneling donations into the respected candidate.

https://www.levernews.com/desantis-allows-anti-woke-giveaway-to-big-wall-street-donors/

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Florida taxpayers pick up bill for Ron DeSantis’s culture war lawsuits

Governor’s Disney battle and extremist policies are met with costly lawsuits covered by ‘blank check’ from Republican legislature

"Since Florida’s governor Ron DeSantis took office in 2019 and embarked on his culture wars, lawsuits from various communities whose rights have been violated have been stacking up against the far-right Republican.

As DeSantis fights the lawsuits with what critics have described as a blank check from the state’s supermajority Republican legislature, the mounting legal costs have come heavily at the expense of Florida’s taxpayers.

In recent years, DeSantis’s ultra-conservative legislative agenda has drawn ire from a slew of marginalized communities as well as major corporations including Disney. The so-called “don’t say gay” bill, abortion bans and prohibition of African American studies are just a few of many DeSantis’s extremist policies that have been met with costly lawsuits in a state where residents are already struggling with costs of living.

“The list of legal challenges precipitating from DeSantis’s unconstitutional laws is endless,” the Democratic state senator Lori Berman said..."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/04/ron-desantis-lawsuits-cost-florida-taxpayers

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Ron DeSantis’ Crusade Against Campaign Finance Laws

Jun 6, 2023

Andrew Perez

Experts say the Florida governor and his super PAC are pushing boundaries and betting that election regulators are asleep on the job.

"Florida Gov. and Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis is working to harness the power of big money in open defiance of federal election laws — betting that no one will hold him accountable.

In a political era dominated by wealthy and often secret donors, the activities undertaken by DeSantis and his outside group allies still stand out — and could render what little remains of federal campaign finance laws as completely meaningless.

A pro-DeSantis super PAC reportedly just received an $82 million windfall from the leftover funds in a political committee the governor ran in Florida. The transfer appears to violate federal election rules as written, though election regulators deadlocked and failed to act on a similar, smaller case last year. The contribution comes after the DeSantis administration changed state guidelines to bless such a move.

“DeSantis will reap the rewards of illegally using $82 million of state campaign funds to support his presidential run,” said Brendan Fischer, a campaign finance lawyer and deputy executive director at political research group Documented. Fischer said there’s a “good chance” the Federal Election Commission (FEC) “will let DeSantis get away with it, and even if the agency does take action, the penalties will only be levied after DeSantis’ campaign already benefited from the illegal spending.”

In recent years, well-funded outside groups like super PACs have become an increasingly integral part of political campaigns. This is primarily because candidates’ campaign committees are restricted by contribution limits (currently $3,300 per person), and super PACs can accept donations of any size — including from corporations that are barred from directly giving to candidates.

Given the state money transfer and the DeSantis campaign’s heavy reliance on a super PAC called Never Back Down, experts say that DeSantis and his allies appear to be testing the boundaries of campaign finance laws further than ever before. Outside groups have employed similar tactics, but never at this scale. His team is effectively betting that the campaign finance cops at the FEC are fully asleep on the job.

Super PACs, according to the reasoning of the judicial decision that led to their creation, are supposed to operate independently from candidates. But Never Back Down is actively raising small-dollar donations for DeSantis’ presidential campaign, running TV and digital ads promoting DeSantis, sending mailers, hosting some of his campaign events, and building its own field team outside the campaign. The super PAC expects to have a $200 million budget, with $100 million for voter outreach, according to The New York Times..."

https://www.levernews.com/ron-desantis-crusade-against-campaign-finance-laws/?utm_source=newsletter-email&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=newsletter-article

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Each legislative session since November 2020, under the guise of “election security, Governor DeSantis and Republican legislators have further limited our voting rights. Encouraged by Donald Trump’s Big Lie, they have stoked baseless fears about rampant voter fraud in Florida, among other anti-democracy narratives.

Today, I will summarize their efforts from this session — how we stopped them, what they did pass, and what to do next.

Good news first: this session, amid the expected onslaught of anti-voting rights bills, we were able to stop a bad bill (SJR 1410/HJR 129). It would have changed the threshold for passing a constitutional amendment from extremely difficult (60%, current threshold) to near-impossible (66%).

Sadly, the fear-mongering GOP did manage to pass the omnibus voter-suppression bill (SB 7050) this session.
The omnibus voter suppression bill adds to the damage done by SB 90, the 2021 bill that legislators essentially copied from neighboring Georgia’s nationally-infamous voter suppression bill. Here’s what this year’s bill (SB 7050) will do:

Increase fines, fees, and regulations on third-party voter registration organizations;

Complicate and over-regulate the rules on vote-by-mail;

Over-regulate voter roll list maintenance for Supervisors of Elections;

Intimidate voters by making voting seem like a legal liability; and

Create new bureaucratic steps to voter registration, adding increased liability. SB 7050 was designed to “complement” another bill (SB 4B) passed during the special legislative session in February that would expand the scope of the Office of Statewide Prosecutor to include elections.

That last point is important because its unique to our state. In 2022, Republicans passed a bill creating the Office of Election Crimes and Security (OECS) in an attempt to “combat voter fraud.” One year in, it’s clear that our worst predictions are coming to pass:

OECS used up more than $1M of taxpayer money and arrested 20 people for alleged “fraud” — but most of the charges were thrown out.

Most of the instances of so-called fraud were due to simple misunderstandings of the new election rules by formerly-convicted individuals.
As we expected, the OECS has found little of the fraud it was purportedly designed to root out. It has also intimidated voters, which was its unstated intent. The people dealing with its heavy burden are those to whom we restored voting rights with our 2018 ballot initiative, which had overwhelming support.

Whether it’s someone who was restored their voting rights or an elderly person seeking help registering to vote, this year’s anti-democracy agenda has made voting harder for Floridians.

(...) no movement to restrict voting rights has ever proven to be on the right side of history — and this one won’t be either. You and I will have to do the work to fight back against it. It starts next legislative session, and you can keep aware of it right here in this email chain.

Thank you, as always, for your support.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Webber
Policy Director - Florida
SPLC Action

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(NPR)

Many of Florida's students go back to school this month. The state's school system has been in the headlines recently after Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill banning diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives in public colleges, and the state's board of education approved a new social studies curriculum. Here's how classes will look different this year:
🎒 Students K-12 could see videos from the conservative nonprofit Prager University Foundation.
🎒 More students will now be eligible for vouchers to attend private schools.
🎒 Parents must sign a consent form to allow teachers to call students anything other than their birth name.
🎒 Teachers won't be allowed to call a student by their preferred pronouns.

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In other news, Florida taxpayers are paying for security for DeSatan on the campaign trail.

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In the place where "woke goes to die," fertile ground is laid for... this shit.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/neo-nazis-gloat-florida-becomes-140000174.html

DeSantis is trying to claim this guy is a "paid actor." Anybody buy it that somebody'd go so far as to fucking tattoo Nazi shit all over their FACE to make a few bucks being a "paid actor" in some false-flag gig? Republicans are in love with conspiracy theories every time they're shown for what they are, but damn, dude, can they be THAT flippin' stupid? At some point basic logic is going to have to intrude upon the lies they tell themselves to avoid facing what they're in bed with.

Neo-Nazis Gloat as Florida Becomes a Magnet for Hate
Tim Dickinson
Thu, September 14, 2023 at 9:00 AM CDT·11 min read
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Neo-Nazis have been ecstatic in the wake of their headline-grabbing action outside Orlando earlier this month. White nationalists with handles like “Dietrich,” “Red Pill,” and “Scotty Big Balls” greeted each other with shouts of “Hail victory!” on a Sept. 10 Telegram livestream. Echoing the sentiments of many participants, “Combat Carl” told listeners it was “probably the best weekend of my life.”

The march represented a merger of two neo-Nazi hate groups with different styles — the hard-edged BloodTribe, aka Blutstamm, whose Maine-based leader Christopher Pohlhaus has a runic face tattoo goes and goes by the name “Hammer”; and the Goyim Defense League, a meme-savvy group whose antisemitism is steeped in layers of irony, led by Jon Minadeo II, who calls himself “Handsome Truth.” This was the largest, but only the latest, of a series of high-profile neo-Nazi actions in Florida.

More than 50 members of both groups joined together on Sept. 2 — wearing red shirts and dark shorts, with most covering their faces with black masks. Some toted massive swastika flags, and their hate march culminated with a demonstration on a freeway overpass in Altamonte Springs, where the neo-Nazis performed stiff-armed Hitler salutes and shouted antisemitic threats like, “Jews get the rope!”


Many of these haters were not Florida natives. As detailed on the livestream, they’d traveled from as far Canada and California, spending thousands of dollars on flights and hotels to participate in this show of intimidation in the Sunshine State. And this joint mobilization was augmented, on the same day, by a third neo-Nazi group that rallied just a few miles away, outside DisneyWorld. Members of the Order of the Black Sun staked out an entrance to “the most magical place on Earth,” holding placards reading: “Have you thanked Hitler today?”

Florida has in recent weeks been something of a magnet for hate, amid burgeoning neo-Nazi activity nationally. The dark rhetoric about hanging Jews followed just a weekend after the mass killing in Jacksonville, Florida, where the gunman, who scrawled a swastika on his AR-15 style rifle, murdered three Black victims at a Dollar General, before killing himself.

At each of the Labor Day weekend neo-Nazi events near Orlando, members trollishly invoked the name of the state’s governor,

. The DisneyWorld Nazis waved a “DeSantis 2024” flag; a GDL member on the freeway overpass mockingly declared: “We’re all DeSantis supporters!” before adding, “Fuck Ron DeSantis!”

Yet, unlike other Florida GOP leaders, DeSantis has not condemned the nauseating displays of hate — continuing a yearslong pattern of conspicuous silence. Critics, including the head of the Florida Democratic Party, insist that DeSantis’ unwillingness to decry such neo-Nazi actions is making him “complicit” in the state’s rising tide of hate. As the GOP governor has fashioned Florida into the place where “woke goes to die,” they insist, DeSantis is fostering an environment where hate comes to thrive.

”Talk to anybody from any of these marginalized communities. There is a fear on the ground,” says Nikki Fried, who was the highest ranking Jewish woman in the history of state government, stepping down from her cabinet post at the beginning of this year to lead state Democrats. She tells Rolling Stone she’s floored to be living through a moment of American history where she has to “denounce Nazis in my home state — and have a governor who refuses to do so.”

According to the Anti-Defamation League, Florida has seen a sharp rise in antisemitic acts. From 2019, when Desantis first took office, to 2022, incidents of anti-Jewish harassment, vandalism and assault soared from 91 to 269 according to an annual, state-by-state accounting by ADL. Antisemitism is surging nationwide, however the 196 percent increase in Florida is far greater than that of other large U.S. states with big Jewish populations, including New York (which saw a 35 percent increase) and California (57 percent).

Combating this surge in bigotry is complex. But the top recommendation from an 2023 ADL report about countering “Hate in the Sunshine State” insists that: “Elected officials and community leaders must all strongly and consistently condemn antisemitism and extremism, whenever and wherever it occurs.”

But that is advice Governor DeSantis’ camp has, at times, found difficult to follow. In Jan. 2022, a group of hardcore haters staged a rally in Orlando, chanting slogans like “the Jew is the devil” and hoisted hateful banners over freeway overpasses. But when called on to condemn them, Team DeSantis first lofted a false-flag conspiracy theory, instead. In a since-deleted tweet, spokesperson Christina Pushaw asked: “Do we even know if they are Nazis?” and suggested that the hate mongers could have been, “Dem Staffers.”

DeSantis eventually insulted these neo-Nazis as “jackasses” during a press conference — but doubled down on the notion that the threat was overhyped by his political opponents. He blasted the “Democrats who are trying to use this as some type of political issue to smear me, as if I had something to do with it.” He added: “We’re not playing their game.”

The governor has since observed a strategy of silence in response to neo-Nazi actions in the state — even when hate groups have invoked his name and political imagery. In July 2022, a group of neo-Nazis set up camp in front of a right-wing youth conference in Tampa, holding lightning bolt ‘SS’ flags, Nazi posters, and a banner reading “DeSantis Country.” One held a sign trolling DeSantis as “our glorious leader.”

Following the Tampa episode, Charlie Crist — then DeSantis’ top rival for governor — sought to turn the Republican’s lack of a response into a campaign issue, tweeting nearly a dozen times to denounce the “terrifying” and “dangerous” development, and demanding that DeSantis “condemn the Nazis.” DeSantis never did so — but it did not cost him politically; he won a landslide victory in November.

In an incident sparking national headlines this past June, neo-Nazi members of the Order of the Black Sun first positioned themselves outside Disney World, waving swastika flags and a banner from DeSantis’ current presidential bid. DeSantis again kept any criticism of the neo-Nazis quiet — in sharp contrast to his predecessor, the current U.S. senator Rick Scott, who responded on Twitter: ”This is not what Florida stands for,” adding: “We will ALWAYS stand with the Jewish community in condemning heinous displays of hatred like this.”

No one is suggesting DeSantis is a neo-Nazi sympathizer. Nor that the Nazis themselves are earnestly enamored of the governor. DeSantis has made a pair of ceremonial trips to Israel to sign state legislation, most recently in April giving law enforcement new tools to prosecute crimes of hate, including antisemitism, and vowing that perpetrators “will be punished.”

Ben Popp, an investigative researcher for the ADL’s Center on Extremism, says that Florida’s neo-Nazis, who amplify DeSantis, along with their swastikas, are really just hoping to popularize their hatred of Jews. “Their number one goal is to garner as much public attention, media attention as possible,” he says. “Because, to them, that’s the way they can normalize their antisemitism.” During a broadcast this past week, the antisemite Minadeo insisted of neo-Nazis who say they support DeSantis: “It’s a total troll,” adding in a conspiratorial tone: “Everyone knows who DeSantis serves.”

The DeSantis presidential campaign did not respond to a request for comment from Rolling Stone. The staff of the governor’s office did not respond directly to questions about why DeSantis doesn’t follow the clarity of Rick Scott’s example. Instead, Deputy Press Secretary Julia Friedland highlighted DeSantis’ legislative record, his support for Israel and insisted, “The Governor is focused on punishing criminals and supporting the Jewish community.” The media, including Rolling Stone, she insisted, “has been focused on smearing the Governor.”

DeSantis himself gave a similar answer in response to a Jewish voter who questioned him directly about neo-Nazis sporting his flag, during a “conversation with the candidate” that aired in early August in Manchester, New Hampshire. Without directly condemning the haters, DeSantis bragged that he’d made Florida the most “pro-Israel state in America,” spent millions on security for Jewish day schools, and vowed to “defeat the scourge of anti-semitism.” As for the neo-Nazis waving his banner: “Those are not true supporters of mine,” he said. “That is an operation, to try to link me to something so that it smears me.” DeSantis added: “They are trying to divide, by using that as a weapon against me.”

DeSantis is shameless for “playing the victim,” says Fried, noting the governor faces no personal fallout from his constant escalation of the culture wars. “As a member of the Jewish community, I every time I drive home mine, I hold my breath for a couple of seconds to make sure there’s not a swastika drawn on my front of my house,” she says.

The dark truth is that white identity politics and scapegoating of minorities is now part and parcel of the MAGA agenda. Trump made his corner of the GOP a safe space for racists by popularizing the birther conspiracy; slandering Mexican immigrants as “rapists” and “drug dealers”; pursuing a “Muslim ban;” and by insisting that the tiki-torch bearing Charlottesville marchers — who chanted “Jews will not replace us!” in 2017 — included “good people.”

Fishing in similar political waters, DeSantis has made a politics of intolerance central to his brand. He championed passage of the state’s infamous “Don’t Say Gay” law, muzzling teachers from discussing LGBTQ topics with students, with Pushaw blasting opponents of the measure as “groomers.” DeSantis has also banned “Critical Race Theory” in state classrooms — claiming it was “teaching kids to hate their country.”

The NAACP, in May, issued a travel advisory warning that “Florida is openly hostile toward African Americans, people of color and LGBTQ+ individuals.” DeSantis blasted the action as a “total farce” and a “political stunt.” But his relationship with Florida’s Black community is now so damaged he was booed when he tried to speak in Jacksonville following the Dollar General massacre — with one heckler even shouting, “Your policies caused this!”

The dividing line between the furthest right wing of the GOP and the extremist fray of white supremacists has always been fuzzy. As the recent firing of a young DeSantis staffer, who had affiliated with Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and then reportedly made a meme video for the DeSantis online operation featuring a Sonnenrad demonstrates, the barrier is porous.

The difference between the two, however, remains meaningful. Modern Republican politicians are all-too-often content to accept support from bigots to secure electoral power. Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups, by contrast, “are not interested in electoral politics,” says Popp. “They believe Jews are controlling politics to begin with. They don’t see it as an effective means of initiating the change that they want to see.”


In short: Republicans are offering political solutions. Neo-Nazis are offering final solutions. But both are identifying persuadable adherents among some of the same Americans. A 2022 poll found that six in ten MAGA voters believe in the “great replacement” conspiracy theory that holds that powerful interests are attempting to erode white power by flooding America with immigrants of color.

Rep. Cory Mils is a Trump-backed MAGA Republican who represents the Orlando suburb where GDL and Blood Tribe marched. His reaction to the neo-Nazis was far from “normal” but illustrated how simple condemning hate can be. Mills played to the conspiratorial base — tweeting, “I believe the recent events were orchestrated with paid actors,” — but the congressman nonetheless called the march, “a reminder of the bigotry and hatred in America that we must root out.” He added: “I wholeheartedly condemn any racist or anti-Semitic hatred, or harassment in our communities.”

Popp insists that it’s crucial to counter neo-Nazi hate speech in the political arena. “There needs to be pushback from our elected officials,” he says, citing their “cultural and social power.” Popp adds: “We need all elected officials to acknowledge the hate — that these are indeed white supremacists, they are indeed antisemitic — and call it out. That it needs to stop.”

DeSantis — to be clear — does call out other flags when it suits his political calculus. After a White House pride ceremony displayed the colors of the rainbow this summer, the Florida governor was quick to raise objection, complaining (incorrectly) that the administration had violated flag protocol. “When they had at the White House, this transgender flag as the precedence [sic] over the American flag,” DeSantis said, “that’s wrong!”

Ironically, the rationale for vocal denunciation of neo-Nazis by DeSantis is perhaps best phrased by his media maven, Pushaw. She once tweeted, in a different context: “Silence is complicity. This is how it works, Democrats, and I didn’t make the rules.”

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Ron DeSantis Requires Florida Schools to Teach About Communism’s Dangers: A Debate Over Education and Politics

Story by Jennifer Clark •

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has recently signed legislation mandating the inclusion of lessons on the dangers of communism in public school curriculums. This move has been met with both praise and criticism.

Supporters argue that teaching about the perils of communism is crucial for understanding history, while critics accuse DeSantis of politicizing education and diverting attention from other important issues. The legislation underscores DeSantis’ ongoing efforts to reshape Florida’s education system, a key aspect of his tenure as governor and his political agenda.

The new law requires students to learn about the “dangers and evils” of communism starting as early as kindergarten, sparking debate over the appropriateness of introducing such complex topics at such a young age.

Critics raise concerns about potential indoctrination and the politicization of education, especially given DeSantis’ track record of pushing for changes that some argue favor charter and private schools over public institutions. This move is seen as part of a broader trend of conservative-led initiatives to influence school curriculums across the country.

While supporters applaud DeSantis for addressing what they see as a gap in education regarding the history and consequences of communism, opponents question the motives behind the legislation and its potential impact on students’ understanding of political ideologies. The governor’s actions have been interpreted as a response to perceived left-leaning influences in education, with some accusing him of using the issue to score political points and rally his conservative base.

The controversy surrounding the new law reflects deeper ideological divisions within American society, particularly regarding the role of education in shaping young minds and transmitting cultural values.

Some view it as a necessary safeguard against the spread of communist ideology, while others see it as an attempt to restrict academic freedom and promote a particular political agenda. The debate underscores the challenges policymakers face in navigating issues of education, ideology, and civic engagement in an increasingly polarized environment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ron-desantis-requires-florida-schools-to-teach-about-communism-s-dangers-a-debate-over-education-and-politics/ar-AA1noWa9?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=57059a2cadd94a62987dd59bc5d3abf4&ei=18

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Here's my comment:

Does he also want the children to know about the dangers of FASCISM? Does he know that Hitler burned books? Does the public know that he has destroyed New College? Inquiring minds...

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What a useless windbag.

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Okay, DeSantis just did something so bass-ackwards and so funny that even a conservative at work mentioned it as being incredibly stupid today... and it's hard to break a conservative's tolerance for dumb lately.  Okay, so while conservatives are crying that liberals are "censoring" things (what things nobody's quite sure of since all the things are still there) and destroying freedom (without being able to provide any real examples of what they can and can't do anymore... well, at least none that liberals took away from 'em), conservative "heroes" are actively taking away rights, banning books, forbidding the teaching of certain parts of history, and now (surely to protect us from ourselves!) they're censoring parts of the spectrum!   Rolling Eyes  

And it's all part of what they're calling...

"Freedom Summer"!    lol!

Ah, Orwell, if only you were still around to see this...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gov-ron-desantis-bravely-saves-083131377.html

Gov. Ron DeSantis bravely saves Floridians from exposure to nonpatriotic bridges
Rex Huppke, USA TODAY
Thu, May 23, 2024 at 3:31 AM CDT·3 min read
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Like most American patriots, I live in constant fear of seeing a bridge or causeway lit up in colors other than red, white and blue.

That’s why I’m standing atop a tall stack of Donald-Trump-endorsed Bibles and applauding heroic Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for banning all lights that aren’t red, white and blue from bridges across the state as part of his “Freedom Summer” initiative.

Nothing says freedom quite like telling people they can only use three government-approved colors! This is America, people. We can’t just light up our infrastructure in whatever colors we want. That would be hue socialism.


DeSantis only believes in three colors: red, white and blue
From Memorial Day through Labor Day 2024, all Florida bridges, including the Ringling Causeway Bridge seen here, will be illuminated in red, white, and blue. The initiative, announced by state Transportation Secretary Jared Perdue on May 8, is part of Florida’s "Freedom Summer" celebration.
From Memorial Day through Labor Day 2024, all Florida bridges, including the Ringling Causeway Bridge seen here, will be illuminated in red, white, and blue. The initiative, announced by state Transportation Secretary Jared Perdue on May 8, is part of Florida’s "Freedom Summer" celebration.

Florida Transportation Secretary Jared Perdue, who I assume hates nonpatriotic colors like green and purple, wrote on social media: “As Floridians prepare for Freedom Summer, Florida's bridges will follow suit, illuminating in red, white, and blue from Memorial Day through Labor Day! Thanks to the leadership of @GovRonDeSantis, Florida continues to be the freest state in the nation.”

YEAH! FREEDOM, BABY!

Freedom from having to look at any lights that might not make me think of the American flag, or the American-flag-themed T-shirt with the eagle on it I got on Amazon.

DeSantis decision on bridge lighting will limit Pride Month displays

As soon as this great news was announced, the libs got all bent out of shape just because the state-ordered ban on certain colors happens to coincidentally and by total accident overlap with Pride Month in June.

Kimberly Allen, who runs a Jacksonville advocacy group that promotes diversity and inclusion, told The Washington Post (which I don’t read, because it’s LIBERAL FAKE NEWS): “I think the undertones of this are what’s haunting. Why at this moment, in this month, why is that happening now?”


It’s happening now because Gov. DeSantis said it’s happening now, and what he says goes, because “FREEDOM!”

And look, if you think DeSantis is intentionally trying to undercut Pride Month, I’ve got news for you: He’s WAY too busy doing important, unifying things, like trying to make sure that trans kids feel terrible and that anyone who says the word “gay” in our schools gets eaten by an alligator. C’mon!
DeSantis co-opting civil rights language while attacking civil rights

Some also accused the governor of trying to co-opt the name “Freedom Summer.”

Noted liberal Bill Kristol posted on social media: “Anyone else find DeSantis’s appropriation of the phrase ‘Freedom Summer’ kind of grotesque? From the noble and courageous effort to allow blacks to register to vote in Mississippi in 1964 to the faux patriotic lighting of bridges in Florida 2024?”

I don’t where all that so-called historical information he’s referring to came from. But it’s certainly not anything Gov. DeSantis would allow to appear in Florida’s history textbooks.


Whatever. I’m not about to let stupid facts convince me that having elected officials control which portions of the visible spectrum we get to see is a bad idea.

In past summers, many major bridges in Florida would be lit up in colors recognizing everything from Pride Month to Juneteenth to Women’s Equality Day to National Recovery Month. No more. It’s red, white and blue or nothing, baby. Residents of the "freest state in the nation" have absolute freedom to love those colors and those colors only.

Thank goodness Gov. DeSantis understands our beautiful bridges should NEVER be used for indoctrination. They should be used as constant, searing reminders that the only things that matter are patriotism and the dutiful acceptance of government-mandated color choices.

It's part of the ol' "you'll start to like us if we just keep cramming our crap down your throat enough!" plan that I know has worked really well for the Southern Baptists who've been obnoxiously trying it on me just about every day of my life.

Got nothin' against red, white, and blue. And I love the flag (the American one, not the French one -- screw the French!). In fact, I love it so much that I won't wear it as part of clothing, because I see that as incredibly disrespectful. I still remember when people got outraged about Peter Fonda wearing one on his jacket in Easy Rider. Meanwhile, today there's hardly a Trumper alive who doesn't have at least one piece of a flag somewhere in their house with their skidmarks on it. Still, though, great colors, great flag. But part of what I like about the flag is it lets people pick other colors, too, if they want 'em. Red-white-blue aren't the only freedoms people have, so outlawing other colors is limiting. The Pride flag is freedom. Green is freedom to say "kiss me I'm Irish." Pink can mean freedom to try to get rid of breast cancer. Blue can mean support the police, if you'd like. Orange can mean "go Gators!" There's a lot of other colors that can represent freedoms in... y'know, a free country.

Every day it gets harder and harder to figure out what "freedoms" conservatives actually support (especially after reading up on their Project 2025 thing, which wants to kill off a whole bunch of rights -- go look into that horrorshow if you've missed it). Not sure what freedoms they're actually for. Okay, there's "absolutely anybody can have any gun they want, no matter how stupid it is for a citizen to have it." Because lord knows I need me a minigun to protect my 'mater patch from varmits and interlopers, even if shooting it for over ten seconds will probably cost ya your year's salary in ammo.



Admit it, it looks like a lotta fun, and the potential to wipe out St. Louis in a minute and a half is no reason to deny a fella fun, now is it?

So, there's that freedom. I'm a gun guy, but still think a limit on certain weapons and a much tighter control over who gets any of 'em would be a pretty smart idea. If you're a nut and hear voices and think aliens want you to kill redheads, then maybe we should limit you to peashooters, buddy. Also, does anybody really think that if "we need guns to protect ourselves from an oppressive government" would actually work, Republicans wouldn't be the first ones trying to take your guns away? Pretty clear that they know "we'll take down the government" is bullshit. They're letting you keep your guns because having them pacifies you and they know you're not a serious threat to them... and you're more likely to use 'em to kill liberals, anyway, and they're all for that (although they can't come out and say so... yet).

militia dude - "Hey, I've got the newest HK 416 with laser scopes and drum mags and the full tricked-out package! It's a BEAST! Government, you better not fuck around with me! Molon labe!"

Government - "*squelch* MQ-9 Reaper en route."

Enjoy the Hellfires, kids. They'll end all yer "Wolverinnnnnes!" fantasies real real quick.

But, anyway, that's definitely ONE freedom they want. Even if they seem to understand it less than anyone else.

Oh, and they DEFINITELY wanna be able to say the N-word! Why they want it so badly I don't know, but it really seems to mean a LOT to them, a thing that's really holding them back from living up to their full potential. And the f-word (not "fuck," the gay one) and then the ones that are mean to Mexicans and Asians and, god, can't they please say "retard," they LOVE saying "retard." And since with the power of small (tee-hee, not really) government they'll put an end to "wokeness" and "political correctness" it'll mean nobody's able to think that they're a huge fucking asshole for saying all that stuff... because the government can do that, in the conservative mind. It's only the government's fault that people don't like them when they're acting like a major shitass. But really, here in the real world, "I get to say racist shit and nobody's allowed to dislike me or not want me around" is not a freedom it's possible for anyone to have. You're thinking of superpowers, and those aren't real. Face the sad fact, Republicans -- you'll never get to be the dick you wanna be while not getting the consequences that dicks get. That's just human nature. Not even Donald Trump can help you. I know you think "mind control" is a thing (because wow does it work on YOU), but other people are always still going to be able to think what they want. And, however DeSantis tries to cut off all the sharp corners and make the world Nerf for you, people are still going to think you're an asshole when you're an asshole.

There's the "freedom to worship," which nobody's actually taking away from 'em, but which they, more and more, are seeking the power to force on everyone else and codify into law (while complaining about the "nanny state" because irony is dead, like the worm in RFK Jr's dead brain). "Make everybody else be a Christian too" is not actually a freedom you have, guys. Nor should it be. Nor is "make anything that would upset a Christian be illegal," because... well, the Taliban tried that with their own version of let's-play-pretend and it kinda threw their civilization back a few hundred years. So, nope.

Oh, and they want the freedom to keep anybody else out of the country. They're REALLY scared of that. That's not really pro-freedom, though, is it? "For me, not thee" is not really "freedom," it's privilege.

This pretty well sums all that up more than I'll try to:



And... that's about it, really, as far as conservative concern for freedom goes. Those things. Just about everything else they're willing to give up, or take away from you. Especially if you're a woman, or a gay person, or have more melanin than they're comfortable with, or speak a language they don't understand, like Spanish or Farsi or English-With-A-Decent-Vocabulary (oooo, they hate college!).

Oh, they seem to like gas stoves and diesel trucks a real whole big bunch, but nobody's actually trying to take those things away from them, they're just recommending that other things would be better. Whooo, buddy, I bet they pitched a big ol' goes-to-eleven fit when them meanie liberals took away the yummy lead paint and red dye #3. "Who cares about cancer, I want my KoolAid to look purdy! And Lawn Darts is fun, if it kills one of my kids, well, that's why we got eight more! Stupid liberals! Outlaw contraceptives and bring back Lawn Darts! Ain't nobody gon' tell me I cain't drink gasoline or shoot bottle rockets up my butt if I want to! And I will, damn ya, just out of spite!"

They also hate "regulations" because, hey, they like a little doo-doo mixed in with their chicken if it saves the guy running the processing plant a couple bucks. So a few kids die, better than making that billionaire a slightly-less-of-a-billionaire. Damn Communists, not wanting to eat dung or cockroach legs.

I'm sure there's some other freedom conservatives treasure that I'm forgetting about. Oh, yeah, the rape one. They seem to wanna lessen the laws against raping, much as they rail against the "me too" thing. They seem to attack victims way more than perpetrators on that one, and even going so far as to say the victim has to have the rapist's baby if that comes up. Meanwhile, my so-called liberal stance is "the best rape whistle is a shotgun." For which I'm called a "Commie."

So, anyway, yeah... FREEDOM:tm: SUMMER!*




* "Freedom" is to be defined by the provider, not the purchaser, may not be available in all areas, limited time only, void where prohibited, purchase required, must be 18 or older and white and male, product may be different than pictured in the advertisement, use at your own risk, all warranties invalid if "Freedom" not used in ways approved by local clergy.

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