PANDUMBIC

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-who-backflips-on-virus-stance-by-condemning-lockdowns/news-story/f2188f2aebff1b7b291b297731c3da74

Floridatexan wrote:

Thanks for posting this FT.

LMAO.... you're a bunch of science deniers. Proof that you're completely controlled by the media narrative. Absolutely no independent thought.

PkrBum wrote:LMAO.... you're a bunch of science deniers. Proof that you're completely controlled by the media narrative. Absolutely no independent thought.

How does it feel to be so stupid you could trademark it?

So how's that pain thing going for you? Time to pop another pill?

Floridatexan wrote:

PkrBum wrote:LMAO.... you're a bunch of science deniers. Proof that you're completely controlled by the media narrative. Absolutely no independent thought.

How does it feel to be so stupid you could trademark it?

The only reason you have is reductive. You're fed your options.

PkrBum wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

PkrBum wrote:LMAO.... you're a bunch of science deniers. Proof that you're completely controlled by the media narrative. Absolutely no independent thought.

How does it feel to be so stupid you could trademark it?

The only reason you have is reductive. You're fed your options.

You're so loaded with drugs that you can't tell a pill from a penis.

Telstar wrote:

You're so loaded with drugs that you can't tell a pill from a penis.

He also doesn't understand the meaning of words. Lately half the shit he says doesn't even make sense. He's so insecure he's spouting stuff he thinks sounds smart but if you analyze it at all it doesn't even mean anything. I've run into that type a lot, having worked in academia a bit. We called 'em "over-reachers" and have had a lot of fun mocking them.

Basically, he's this guy:

Here's one reason you shouldn't listen to advice from conservatives regarding this pandemic.

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1315856349964759040

Under Trump's "leadership" and his idiot cult's blind obedience to him, it's steadily become more of a "red state problem." And they can say all the shit they want about how "few people it kills," but I personally know a bunch, so that's wishful-thinking horseshit from an ignorant person who should never be listened to about anything.

zsomething wrote:Here's one reason you shouldn't listen to advice from conservatives regarding this pandemic.

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1315856349964759040

Under Trump's "leadership" and his idiot cult's blind obedience to him, it's steadily become more of a "red state problem."  And they can say all the shit they want about how "few people it kills," but I personally know a bunch, so that's wishful-thinking horseshit from an ignorant person who should never be listened to about anything.  

https://dangoodspeed.com/covid/total-cases-since-june

Trump Said Don’t Let COVID Dominate Your Life. These Millennials Don’t Know If They Will Ever Get Better.

“Why is his life more valuable than mine? Then he mocks this illness that has ruined my life.”

Brianna Sacks
BuzzFeed News Reporter
Posted on October 15, 2020, at 11:48 a.m. ET

"As the United States closes in on nearly 8 million coronavirus cases, thousands of people are still suffering from debilitating symptoms months after they contracted the virus. COVID-19 has upended their lives, changed their bodies, and made it difficult to complete everyday tasks or, in some cases, hold down jobs. A CDC study from this summer found that 1 in 5 people aged 18 to 34 who tested positive for COVID-19 had not recovered their health after a few weeks. Some may be chronically ill and need long-term care. Months into the pandemic, there’s still no real treatment plan for these patients and many say their own doctors, friends, family members — and now their president — continue to downplay what they are going through.

Over the past three months, BuzzFeed News has spoken with more than 100 of these long-haulers as they searched for help and recognition. In the beginning, many said they felt very much alone, finding solace in online support groups. As doctors learned more about the virus, it became apparent that the narrative that the coronavirus largely bypassed young, active people was not entirely true. Many previously healthy long-haulers describe a common set of symptoms: fatigue, recurring headaches and fevers, trouble breathing, and a persistent "brain fog" that makes it difficult to remember things or focus.

When President Donald Trump tested positive for COVID-19, many long-haulers held their breath: If the country watched their leader confirm that the virus was serious, their plight might receive more attention. But then Trump took off his mask, told people not to let COVID-19 dominate their lives, and continued to dismiss the virus that has now killed more than 217,000 Americans. On Monday, Trump returned to the campaign trail, telling an audience in Sanford, Florida, that he felt “so powerful” that he would “kiss everyone in that audience.”

But young long-haulers in states like Vermont, Georgia, and California want you to know that the coronavirus doesn’t just dominate your life; it can completely change it..."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/trump-covid-dominate-your-life-long-haulers-respond?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BuzzFeed%20News%20-%20October%2016%2C%202020&utm_term=News%20confirmed%20list

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More math... don't hurt yourselves.

https://news.yahoo.com/pandemics-real-toll-300-000-121205522.html

PkrBum wrote:More math... don't hurt yourselves.

https://news.yahoo.com/pandemics-real-toll-300-000-121205522.html

Not really sure how you think a bigger number than reported really helps your case, but, whatever, I'm sure there's some twisted reasoning in there that sounds like a steel-jacketed "gotcha" when it's translated into dimwit.

In any case, you're right, it's totally harmless, so why don't you go out and lick some doorknobs, show us all how dumb we are for worrying about it? You've got a great track record on judgment at keeping folks healthy, so, have at it. You'll enjoy it, anyway -- doorknobs are shiny!

Yesterday, 3 of Pence's staff were COVID positive. Today, it's up to 5. Pence, the head of the coronavirus task force, refuses to isolate.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/new-covid-19-outbreak-hits-white-house-infecting-pence-aides.html#comments

NOVEMBER 2, 2020
Kuttner on TAP

The Plague and the Mad King

If Joe Biden does win decisively tomorrow and is able to take office, historians will record that the pivotal moment when the election began trending relentlessly toward the Democrats was Trump’s catching the virus. This was of course the logical consequence of his recklessness toward himself and the rest of the citizenry.

Though Trump recovered, and tried to use his ordeal to proclaim himself as bionic and COVID as no big deal, the fatal political damage was done. The picture of the president sickened by his own arrogance and ineptitude, and heedless of the harm to others, summed up everything appalling about his presidency.

And it perfectly captured the impact on ordinary people otherwise inclined to cut Trump some slack. Far from making America great, Trump has made America sick. You can deny the science of climate change; you can’t deny over 200,000 deaths and 100,000 new cases a day.

No matter how Trump tries to waltz around the numbers, or keeps insisting that COVID is no worse than flu, or blames Biden for deaths that never happened in the case of H1N1 swine flu, or tries to rebrand COVID as the Chinese Virus, this pandemic is irrevocably Trump’s. It’s the Trump Virus.

Since Trump’s recovery, the pandemic has only intensified—repeatedly giving the lie to his preposterous claims, while keeping the surge of COVID cases page-one news, with Trump as the personification. This is poetic justice. But what is absolutely chilling is the fact that were it not for COVID, Trump might well have had a path to re-election.

The timing of COVID was a fortuitous accident. The symbol and substance of COVID as everything wrong with Trump is no accident.
~ ROBERT KUTTNER

The new coronavirus infected people in the U.S. in mid-December 2019, a few weeks before it was officially identified in China and about a month earlier than public health authorities found the first U.S. case, according to a government study published Monday.

The findings significantly strengthen evidence suggesting the virus was spreading around the world well before public health authorities and researchers became aware, upending initial thinking about how early and quickly it emerged.

Scientists at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found evidence of infection in 106 of 7,389 blood donations collected by the American Red Cross from residents in nine states across the U.S., according to the study published online in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.

The scientists based their study on blood samples that the American Red Cross collected between Dec. 13 and Jan. 17 and later sent to the CDC for testing to see if any had antibodies to the new coronavirus, which is named SARS-CoV-2.

“SARS-CoV-2 infections may have been present in the U.S. in December 2019, earlier than previously recognized,” the authors wrote.

A person’s immune system develops antibodies when exposed to a pathogen like a virus to fight it off. Their presence suggests exposure to a virus.

In analyzing the blood samples, the CDC scientists found antibodies in 39 samples from California, Oregon and Washington state collected between December 13 and December 16.

The findings suggest there were isolated cases of coronavirus infection on the U.S. West Coast in mid-December, the scientists wrote.

They also found 67 samples with antibodies in Massachusetts, Michigan, Wisconsin or Iowa, and Connecticut or Rhode Island collected between Dec. 30 and Jan. 17.

Those findings indicated that cases were more dispersed—yet still isolated—by early this year.

Health experts say having a vaccine is just one front in a two-front battle against Covid-19. The other is effective treatments for those who are already sick with the disease. WSJ breaks down the three most promising types in development. Photo Illustration: Jacob Reynolds/WSJ. The scientists said they ruled out the possibility that the antibodies they found had developed to fight off other coronaviruses, which cause the common cold. They did that by looking for antibodies specific to the new coronavirus in 90 of the samples.

They said they found antibodies specific to SARS-CoV-2 in 84 of the samples, or nearly all of them.

The results add to growing evidence suggesting Covid-19 was present outside of China earlier than previously known. Researchers found the virus, for example, in a retrospective analysis of a specimen from a patient who was hospitalized in France on Dec. 27, 2019.

The first Covid-19 case in the U.S. was reported on Jan. 19, two days after testing for the virus began there, the CDC researchers said. A young man returning from China a few days earlier suspected he might have the disease and sought care for his symptoms.

Two other people who were subsequently diagnosed in the U.S. also developed symptoms in mid-January.

Earlier studies have also suggested that Covid-19 had moved beyond just isolated cases and was spreading in communities in the U.S. by mid- to late-January, though epidemiologists say that the virus likely didn’t circulate widely in communities until later in February.

The new study shows the value of screening routinely collected blood samples for evidence of viruses spreading in a population, the CDC authors said, adding that the agency is continuing to conduct surveillance for Covid-19 this way.

Not only did Covid-19 likely appear in the U.S. earlier than previously known, but researchers have found evidence that the virus is far more widespread in the U.S. than testing indicates.

Some 53 million people in the U.S. likely had contracted Covid-19 by the end of September, according to a modeling estimate published last week by CDC researchers. Roughly 6.9 million infections had been confirmed within that time period, suggesting that roughly one in every eight cases was identified.

Yet the majority of the U.S. population hasn’t been infected. On Nov. 24, a CDC study published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine estimated that fewer than 1% to 23% of people in the U.S. had antibodies, depending on the location.

Write to Betsy McKay at betsy.mckay@wsj.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/k4c0qv/covid19_likely_in_us_in_middecember_2019_cdc/

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Arizona legislature shuts down after Giuliani tests positive for coronavirus

BY REID WILSON - 12/06/20 09:09 PM EST

The two chambers of the Arizona state legislature will suspend their work this week after former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani tested positive for the coronavirus less than a week after spending hours testifying in front of Republican legislators in a futile bid to overturn the state’s election results.

Spokespeople for the state House and Senate confirmed to The Hill Sunday that the two chambers would cancel their planned meetings this week because of concerns over the spread of the coronavirus.

President Trump tweeted that Giuliani tested positive for the virus Sunday, and reports said he is receiving treatment at a Washington-area hospital.

Giuliani, Trump’s lead legal strategist in a series of cases the president has lost in court, has traveled to several states in recent days to testify — not under oath — about alleged election irregularities for which he has not offered evidence.

In Arizona, Giuliani spent almost ten hours with Republican legislators at a Phoenix hotel on Monday. He appeared without a mask, and at one point he even asked a fellow witness to remove her mask while he was sitting less than six feet away.

At least nine state lawmakers and two members of Congress — Reps. Paul Gosar (R) and Andy Biggs (R) — attended the session, according to the Arizona Republic. The members posed for a group photograph tweeted out by the Arizona Republican Party, without a mask in sight.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/528990-arizona-legislature-shuts-down-after-giuliani-tests-positive?utm_term=OZY&utm_campaign=pdb&utm_content=Monday_12.07.20&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email

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