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bigdog wrote:Yes, and I answered you in General discussion. I see you haven't responded yet. I pointed out to you that in that thread you decided to repost you just opened up the can of worms that was not supposed to be discussed on here.
I pointed out a post in that thread where Neko said I was angry with her because I just did not understand that everything she had done concerning the probate on her mom's estate was just perfectly fine and legal, and that I only imagined that she was being manipulative in the writing of the mortgage transfer. She said our lawyer could not have seen any problems at all with how the procedure was being done.

Then I pointed out that as of today, the piece of property that was being discussed way back then, in 2012, is still not in the name of the inheritors of Neko's mother's estate. It is now being handled by a court appointed guardian who is finally getting the paperwork straightened out, receiving the property back from its present holder who hasn't made a payment on it in 5 years, nor paid the taxes (my husband and I have), and then he will partition the property, the court will sell it, and the court will divide the money between Marie's husband, my husband, her surviving other brother, and the wife of her deceased brother. My husband and I have had significant legal bills, but we will be receiving most of that back when the property is sold. We will also get back the property taxes that we have been paying on the property for several years now so the land wouldn't be sold on the courthouse steps. None of the other siblings contributed at all to that. This would never have happened until and unless the decision was finally made to let my husband handle it LEGALLY through an attorney and the court system. And it has not happened yet, but when it does, you'll see it on the Clerk of the Court records. Right now, the guardian has just been appointed by the court. They would not have had to appoint a guardian except for the god-awful mess that was created by the mortgage deed as well as the probate. Our attorney at the time said it was screwed up royally, and either her lawyers were the stupidest attorneys in town or it was done intentionally.  
So, your friend did not tell you the truth Joanie.
She rarely did.
You'll never know how many times you were fed baloney by her and you swallowed it whole. No matter to me. It was still not all about the inheritance, though I know you think so.

bigdog wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:You signed your own name to the letter! It has been on this forum ever since.

In the back of the forum. I haven't said I was ashamed of the letter, have I. I would like to know exactly what you consider to be off limits on this forum though. When I first came on here, it was nothing to be talked about from the past, and I held to that. Then slowly but surely, FT pops up and claims we had some fight in the past about Trayvon Martin that sure as hell didn't happen. And Dreams shows up with her crap about polls and starts talking about stuff in the past. Did you delete her post when she said something about somebody reporting Neko for parental abuse?  Nobody ever did, by the way. But I'm pretty sure that was inflammatory and way, way back in the past. Yeah, I responded, but you've allowed it to continue because it's me being attacked and you like it. If you want to delete any posts I make about the past, I'd suggest you go back and delete all the posts that have anything to do with the old forum at all, including those where people are trying to figure out who is who and if Bill is Telstar and if somebody named BP was a sex pervert and who knows what else. But you won't do that, because you've secretly enjoyed the last few days. It's the kind of stuff gossips love best. But you could clean it all up, if you wanted to.

bigdog wrote:You asked why my kids went to private schools, didn't you?

You heard that from somebody, right?

FYI FOOL, Two of my kids graduated from Tate High and one from Woodham High.

In Middle school, two of them attended Wedgewood Middle and were in the band there. My son attended Ransom Middle School, also a public school, for a special program there.

Two of my kids went to Lincoln Park Elementary and one to Bellview.

The ONLY private school I ever sent any of my kids to was Escambia Christian for my youngest daughter's kindergarten and first grade because her birthday is 7 days too late for her to start with the rest of the kids her age. She was more then ready for kindergarten, and if she went to a private school for 2 years she was then allowed to join her same aged kids when she started 2nd grade. As soon as she did, she left private school and went to a public school.

Your friend gave you incorrect information way back then, trying to claim I was a "closet racist" and you swallowed it whole. Racists didn't let their kids go to Wedgewood Middle School. All those are easily verifiable facts.

I don't particularly like putting this crap online Dreams, but YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION DIRECTLY as though you knew some secret answer I couldn't possibly reveal. Stop asking  if you don't want to learn how incredibly stupid your bunch  was.  You were used and you were suckers.
I'd stay out of the past if I were you.

I don't like talking about these things and I don't like talking down my SIL. I knew her, you didn't. I understood why she was the way she was. You never could have. Her situation made me way more sad than angry.
She was a much different person when she was young. We were very close at one time.
Why can't you leave it alone? I did, for weeks on here. And I'm willing to again, but not to keep reading this crap and not respond.

Telstar wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:I enjoyed the video clip and got a new perspective on the race. Sure, I too like Warren, think she has a lot of good ideas. Reflecting on what was said on the clip about Obama in the '08 primary was that with less money and lower name recognition he beat out other candidates. Why? Because he grabbed people's imagination with a big picture, hopeful kind of campaign. He had our hearts, our emotional dedication to what he stood for.

My anxiety over Warren, and I haven't followed her speeches too closely, is that she is full of ideas and plans (head stuff) she knows the financial markets and structures inside and out and can't be fooled by any of their smoke and mirrors (more head stuff) but...can she somehow appeal to voters' emotions too? The bottom line, looking at truly how people decide who to vote for, is an emotional one.

Just look at DJT's totally BS emotional appeal to fake patriotism and fear. He's total emotion, ranting and raving. That, and the FaceBook/Russian trolls, adds etc. is how he "won". Now his disapproval ratings are through the roof, so there's that. But what is the cure?  

Another thing that troubles me about Warren is I think she's calling for (somehow) forgiving college debt and doing away with private health insurance? If that's so, I think those are not widely popular among mainstream voters?

Sal wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:I enjoyed the video clip and got a new perspective on the race. Sure, I too like Warren, think she has a lot of good ideas. Reflecting on what was said on the clip about Obama in the '08 primary was that with less money and lower name recognition he beat out other candidates. Why? Because he grabbed people's imagination with a big picture, hopeful kind of campaign. He had our hearts, our emotional dedication to what he stood for.

My anxiety over Warren, and I haven't followed her speeches too closely, is that she is full of ideas and plans (head stuff) she knows the financial markets and structures inside and out and can't be fooled by any of their smoke and mirrors (more head stuff) but...can she somehow appeal to voters' emotions too? The bottom line, looking at truly how people decide who to vote for, is an emotional one.

Just look at DJT's totally BS emotional appeal to fake patriotism and fear. He's total emotion, ranting and raving. That, and the FaceBook/Russian trolls, adds etc. is how he "won". Now his disapproval ratings are through the roof, so there's that. But what is the cure?  

Another thing that troubles me about Warren is I think she's calling for (somehow) forgiving college debt and doing away with private health insurance? If that's so, I think those are not widely popular among mainstream voters?

I shared your concerns about her before I started to listen closely to what she is saying and how she is saying it.

My concerns are gone.

She's the real deal.

She draws enormous crowds and enormous ovations from those crowds. People see her and holler, unbidden, “Big Structural Change!”—the tagline for all her now-famous syllabus of plans. They chant, “Two cents!”, the amount of each dollar over $50 million she proposes to tax to finance the implementation of those plans. (This is reminiscent of the night at the 2012 Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, when the crowd chanted, “Consumer Finance Protection Bureau,” at her, which was not an easy thing to chant.) And, in the polls, she can’t be said to have had a “moment” yet, but her rise has been steady, easing fears that she might be peaking too soon. She is now a solid second to Joe Biden, and it is still only August of 2019.

But the thing that’s sold Elizabeth Warren to Iowa is primarily Elizabeth Warren. None of the candidates seems to be having as much fun as she is. The endless selfies after speeches. The pinky-swears with young girls about how what girls do is run for president. Her willingness to hold town halls anywhere. That loose-limbed, almost goofy wave with which she steps onto every stage. In a gloomy political time, with a humorless sociopathic bully in the White House, and with all the worst impulses of the national Id come out to play, Senator Professor Warren is the campaign’s happy warrior, the teacher everybody hopes they get when school starts up again in the fall. People respond to the good feeling around her campaign as much as they respond to the blizzard of policy proposals that campaign has loosed upon the electorate.

And the people who come expecting a Dukakis or a Kerry come away happily surprised. And the people who come away expecting an ivory-tower Harvard lecturer leave feeling smarter, and experiencing the conquest of learning in a way they haven’t felt it since elementary school. None of this is to say what may happen when the guns really open up on her, but it is to say, for now, that Elizabeth Warren is running a campaign of hope and optimism and enthusiasm as surely as did Ronald Reagan, that ol’ Iowa radio guy, in 1980, and as surely as Barack Obama did in 2008.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28669312/elizabeth-warren-iowa-state-fair/

RealLindaL wrote:WASHINGTON (CNN)Joe Biden has expanded his edge over the Democratic field in a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, with 29% of Democratic and Democratic-leaning registered voters saying they back the former vice president.  That's up 7 points compared with a late June CNN survey. No other candidate has made meaningful gains over that time.

The shift returns Biden to a double-digit lead over his nearest competitors, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders at 15% and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 14%. Their support is largely unchanged since earlier this summer.

Aside from Biden's increase, the only statistically meaningful change in the candidate standings is a 12-point decline in support for California Sen. Kamala Harris, who stood at 17% support in the June poll but now has the backing of 5% of potential Democratic voters. That's similar to the level of support she had in the spring before a surge following her initial debate performance.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/20/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-2020-biden-rebound/index.html