No, Democrats Don’t Want to ‘Murder’ or ‘Execute’ Babies

Mike Pence and other Republicans are accusing Democrats of supporting infanticide

By RYAN BORT

Vice President Mike Pence took a break from railing against socialism Friday morning to accuse Democrats of supporting baby murder. “With Democrats standing for late-term abortion and infanticide and a culture of death, I promise you this president, this party and this movement will always stand for the unborn,” he said during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, drawing applause. “We will always defend the unalienable right to life.”


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Pence calls Trump "the most pro-life president in American history." He then gets a huge ovation when he brags about Trump pushing to defund Planned Parenthood in all 50 states.

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PENCE: "With Democrat standing for late-term abortion and infanticide and a culture of death, I promise you this president, this party, & this movement will always stand for the unborn. We will always defend the unalienable right to life."

Pence isn’t alone. On Thursday, former Wisconsin governor and eternal ham sandwich evangelist Scott Walker attempted to make a distinction between infanticide and murder, which the Democrats also support, he claims. “By the way, it’s not live-birth abortion. It’s not infanticide,” he said at CPAC. “It is murder if you take the baby home and kill the baby at home. It’s murder. The same thing is true at the hospital.”

Sadly, the view that Democrats support “infanticide” is not exclusive to pro-life extremists like Pence and Walker; it’s becoming the new Republican party line — which is to say Trump tweeted it. “Senate Democrats just voted against legislation to prevent the killing of newborn infant children,” the president wrote on Monday. “The Democrat position on abortion is now so extreme that they don’t mind executing babies AFTER birth … This will be remembered as one of the most shocking votes in the history of Congress. If there is one thing we should all agree on, it’s protecting the lives of innocent babies.”


Donald J. Trump

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· Feb 25, 2019
Senate Democrats just voted against legislation to prevent the killing of newborn infant children. The Democrat position on abortion is now so extreme that they don’t mind executing babies AFTER birth....


Donald J. Trump

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....This will be remembered as one of the most shocking votes in the history of Congress. If there is one thing we should all agree on, it’s protecting the lives of innocent babies.

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Trump’s tweets came in response to the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act failing to receive the 60 votes necessary to be brought up for a formal vote in the Senate, with 44 of 47 Democrats voting against it advancing. Sponsored by Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE), the bill states that health care professionals must “exercise the same degree of professional skill, care, and diligence to preserve the life and health” of a child born alive after an abortion attempt as they “any other child born alive at the same gestational age,” regardless of the wishes of the parents.

“This is about the most simple thing you can say,” Sasse said on Fox News after the bill failed. “A baby is a baby, and they have dignity and they have worth. It’s not because they’re powerful; it’s because they’re babies. Today is a sad day in the United States Senate, but I remain hopeful long term, because ultimately the United States Senate today can have a bunch of people — 44 of our members decided to try to stick their head in the sand and pretend that a baby isn’t a baby — but 320 million Americans are going to have conversations around their kitchen table that are going to be more loving and logical.”




Senator Ben Sasse

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"Condemning infanticide should be a unanimous vote. It's a basic human rights issue."

Full video here: https://youtu.be/u5w1Rnq8n2A

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The context surrounding the bill is a little more complicated than Sasse and other Republicans want Americans to believe. Earlier this week, the New York Times spoke with Dr. Daniel Grossman, a professor of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive sciences at the University of California, San Francisco, who explained that an infant being born alive after an attempted abortion is extremely rare. Dr. Kristyn Brandi, a board member of Physicians for Reproductive Health, told Vox that she’d never even heard of such a case. “This is a part of the false narrative around this bill and abortion later in pregnancy,” she said.

One of the ways this can occur is if a condition threatens the life of both the mother and the fetus, and labor must be induced in order to save the mother’s life. “If it seems unlikely that the baby will survive, the family may choose to provide just comfort care — wrapping and cuddling the baby — and allow the child to die naturally without extreme attempts at resuscitation,” according to the Times. Sasse’s bill would force doctors to revive the baby or stare down a fine and up to five years in prison.

Critics of the bill argue that it would intimidate doctors into not performing abortions; that legislation protecting born-alive infants already exists in the form of the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002; and that Republicans are using the bill as another way to restrict the rights of women and drum up cheap, bad-faith outrage ahead of the 2020 election.

“We must call out today’s vote for what it is: a direct attack on women’s health and rights,” Leana Wen, president of the Planned Parenthood, said in a statement responding to the bill. “This legislation is based on lies and a misinformation campaign, aimed at shaming women and criminalizing doctors for a practice that doesn’t exist in medicine or reality.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-mike-pence-abortion-802060/

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Of course they don't but if the same lie is repeated often enough they figure 45's republican cult will eat it up like pigs eat slop.

Judging from the CPAC speeches, the GOP platform is going to be:

They're trying to take your guns.
Liberals like killing babies.
They're trying to turn our country socialist, like Venezuela (the country Drumpf is trying to slash & burn so he can have the oil).

This is the song bone spur and the GOP should be singing.

Jeanine Pirro to CPAC Crowd: Do You Want to Live in Country Where ‘Babies are Killed Without Consequence?’

At the end of her show on Saturday night, Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro shared a clip from her speech at CPAC on Saturday.

It was a doozy.

Revving up the crowd, Pirro shouted, “Do you want to live in a country where babies are killed without consequence, without remorse and with impunity? Do you want to live in the country where criminal illegals are protected by liberal leftists that continue their criminality and not be handed over to I.C.E.?”

The crowd shouted back “no.”

“Do you want Ms-13 gang members running through this country and into your community?” she then prompted.

“No,” the crowd shouted again.

Of course, Pirro also hit on the left.

“Do you want to live in a country where the left is more concerned about power and control than they are about maintaining the law and order that our Founding Fathers envisioned?” Pirro called out to the crowd.

“No,” the chorus replied once again.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeanine-pirro-asks-cpac-crowd-do-you-want-to-live-in-country-where-babies-are-killed-without-consequence/



The link includes a short video.

Damn, I bet she's a fun date! "Bruises, Mistress Jeanine, I want bruises! Make it hurt!"

It's like I said a few weeks back, Trump is screwed and indefensible so the Republicans are going to the old stand-by that motivates their idiotic base: you adversaries are killin' babies! It's yeah-our-side-sucks-and-sells-out-to-the-Russians-and-fucks-you-on-your-tax-returns-and-lies-about-the-wall, but-those-other-folks-EAT BABIES, so what ya gonna do, huh?

The GOP runs entirely on FEAR. Increasingly ridiculous fear.

Dems are gonna kill babies up to age, I dunno, let's say eleven!

Who really has the worst record on infant mortality? Red states.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm

But who cares about facts and stats? Republicans are faith-based! So, why stop at horseshit about infanticide, go ahead and revive the Pizzagate rumors about pedophile rings, too, even though the two groups that keep getting caught doing that shit are the Catholics and Southern Baptists, which are both staunchly conservative. But, like I said, who cares about facts?

Throw in a little comintagetchaguns and with-six-you-get-eggroll-is-socialism! and that's all it takes to get all three dendrites in the typical conservative mind firin', and they'll forget all about Trump kissing Putin's (and Kim's, and the Saudis') ass and using the Constitution as a doormat.

It's cynical, but when you know your base are a bunch of morons who fall for it every damn time, why wouldn't you go right for the "they-kill-babies" button? Treat 'em like idiots, they give you no reason not to. It's so easy, easy...

"It's like I said a few weeks back, Trump is screwed and indefensible so the Republicans are going to the old stand-by that motivates their idiotic base: you adversaries are killin' babies! It's yeah-our-side-sucks-and-sells-out-to-the-Russians-and-fucks-you-on-your-tax-returns-and-lies-about-the-wall, but-those-other-folks-EAT BABIES, so what ya gonna do, huh?"




Where were all these baby eaters when big mama popped 45 out of her pee hole?

Floridatexan wrote:
Judging from the CPAC speeches, the GOP platform is going to be:

They're trying to take your guns.
Liberals like killing babies.
They're trying to turn our country socialist, like Venezuela (the country Drumpf is trying to slash & burn so he can have the oil).

Venezuela is not the only socialist country. The main GOP talking point  against any Democrat running for the nomination is to slap the label "SOCIALIST" on them. They trot out Venezuela as a failure, depending on the fact that most Americans are woefully uneducated about government, their own as well as governments of other countries.

Of course, the GOP overlooks Social Security and Medicare when they use this scare tactic.

Here are the top ten "most" socialist countries.


The term socialist has been thrown around quite a bit in the past few years. Not since the cold war has the term garnered so much attention in the press and from politicians. But when you look at countries who actually have a socialist economic structure, you can see some similarities to the United States – but there are some really stark differences.

Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium
Despite popular myths, there is very little connection between economic performance and welfare expenditure. Many of the countries on this list are proof of that, such as Denmark and Finland. Even though both countries are more socialistic than America, the workforce remains stronger.

http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/

According to the CIA World Factbook, all of the socialist countries listed (with the exception of China [12.0/1,000]) have a lower infant mortality rate than the U.S.,  which has a rate of 5.8 infant deaths/ 1,000 live births.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html

All of the socialist countries, with the exceptions of China (75.7) and Denmark (79.5) have a better life expectancy rate than does the U.S. (80.0)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

Of course this is too far out in the weeds to be easily folded into a stump speech so I'm sure taring the Democratic candidates with the pejorative label of Socialist and extremist will work quite well. The Dems must find an effective way to combat this.

The republicants have been beating that drum a long time.

othershoe1030 wrote:
Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

Except for China, none of those countries are Socialist, they're Social Democracies. Socialism requires public (or government) ownership of the means of production.

Here, read this:

Bernie Is Not a Socialist and America Is Not Capitalist

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/03/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialism/471630/



Look up the difference between Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism when you get a chance.



Here's another article:

Democratic Socialism Isn’t Social Democracy

The Nordic countries — Finland, Norway, and Sweden — are social democracies. They have constitutional representative democracies, extensive welfare benefits, corporatist collective bargaining between labor and capital that is managed by the state, and some state ownership of the economy. These institutions would be much preferable relative to the ones in our neoliberal wasteland.

https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/democratic-socialism-social-democracy-nordic-countries




And Ronald Reagan can kiss my bony ass!

Y'all know the kind of Democratic Socialism that some of the Dems are proposing isn't a scary thing, and I know it.

Now, try convincing the conservative base -- who belieeeeeve-on-faith everything from Jesus to trickle-down-economic and can get spooked by absolute horseshit like "Democrats are running a pedophile ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor" (which didn't even have a basement, even if anyone wanted to do such a monsterous thing there) -- of all that. They aren't going to believe it, and they're gonna fight you if you even try to wise 'em up. When you're explaining to these idiots, you're losing.

Honestly, if we didn't have Bernie in this race and were running pretty much any of our other candidates without having the inner-party purity strife, we'd have this almost locked. As is, thanks to an old hippie's vanity, we're well on our way to repeating 2016... weakening whoever we do get until half the party hates 'em 'cuz they won't settle for anything but their fabled messiah. And they'll sit home and sulk like they did last time.

I'm hoping that Trump will face a strong primary challenge on his side just to hobble them the way Bernie's gonna hobble us. That'd help.