If Rubio is right, there'll be hell to pay...

Rubio: There will be a red wave tomorrow

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) on Monday predicted there will be a "red wave" in the midterms on Tuesday, comparing it to the 2016 presidential election.

"In 2016 when we went in that final day, everybody was predicting gloom and doom," Rubio recalled during a campaign event for Florida gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis. "They didn’t realize how many people out there were waiting for Election Day."

He said people went to the polls in person because they were so excited to vote that year.

"Forget about a blue wave," Rubio added. "A red wave of votes started coming in. That’s what’s gonna happen again now."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/414903-rubio-there-will-be-a-red-wave-tomorrow



I don't think there's gonna be a Red Wave but it's entirely possible that the Democrats fail to gain enough seats to win control in the House. If the Republicans retain control, McConnell is going to start on so-called entitlements.  All I have to do is think about November 2016 and I get a little, uh, anxious.  

If the Republicans retain control of the House, things are gonna get BAD!

He's wrong. False bravado. As a whole, this nation HATES Trump, and this is their chance to say so. Keep the faith, baby!

RealLindaL wrote:He's wrong.  False bravado.  As a whole, this nation HATES Trump, and this is their chance to say so.  Keep the faith, baby!

I hope your right because if it turns out like 2016 there will be a lot of public places where Trumpers and republicans will be afraid to show their faces in public, I can almost guarantee that.

RealLindaL wrote:  As a whole, this nation HATES Trump, and this is their chance to say so.  

You're whistlin' past the graveyard. At least 30% of the country is rabidly behind him.

Remember, he got over 40% of the vote in the General Election in '16. If you think "As a whole, this nation HATES Trump" you're not paying attention. He has millions of batshit crazy true-believers. Those two incidents last week are proof of that as well as proof of the extent to which they'll go to show it.

Deus X wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:  As a whole, this nation HATES Trump, and this is their chance to say so.  

You're whistlin' past the graveyard. At least 30% of the country is rabidly behind him.

Remember, he got over 40% of the vote in the General Election in '16. If you think "As a whole, this nation HATES Trump" you're not paying attention. He has millions of batshit crazy true-believers. Those two incidents last week are proof of that as well as proof of the extent to which they'll go to show it.

So what's your excuse? Because you've defended his every move.

Floridatexan wrote:So what's your excuse?  Because you've defended his every move.

You're full of shit, FT. I haven't "defended his every move", I'm just pointing out that the Democrats might not win the House. You're a fuckin' ignorant Pollyanna who only reads crap that confirms your bias. And apparently, you're so fuckin' dumb you've already forgotten 2016. Remember all the polls that said Queen Bitch Hillary was gonna win? How'd that turn out?

You jumped down my throat in one post because I suggested that the state of the economy was a factor in this election and you took that to mean I believed that Trump was single-handedly responsible for it. Obviously your reading comprehension skills are as defective as your reasoning. And keep that incident in mind because I'm gonna return the favor--the difference being I'll be right not full of shit like you were.

I'm not even worried about tomorrow anymore. Too many people have already voted and too many  "non-party" voters have already voted, many, many of them young people.
ABC news tonight said that 7 out of 10 people who voted this year looked on this election as a referendum on Trump.
Seventy percent of Americans, to say the least, are not Trump lovers.
Yes, about 38% are, but that's not enough to overcome a large turnout. All the screaming about 2016 STILL ignores the fact that Hillary Clinton got 3 MILLION more votes than Donald Trump did in that election, no matter whether Deus thinks she lost because she's a "bitch" or not.
She lost because of the electoral college. ONLY because of the electoral college. The American people WANTED her to be their president, Deus.
She WAS MORE POPULAR THAN DONALD TRUMP IN 2016.
Those are the facts. The real news, if you will.

CLINTON HATERS ARE STILL IN THE MINORITY IN AMERICA. In fact, the Clintons are the only people in history besides Franklin D Roosevelt that the American people wanted to be president THREE times.

Just makes you sick, doesn't it Deus?

'Kiss of Death': Democrats keep Hillary off campaign trail

Hillary Clinton was once the face of the Democratic Party, a celebrity name who could draw thousands to rallies and was the all-but-certain first female president of the United States. Now, she is viewed as "the kiss of death" for candidates.

As the midterm election campaigns enter the home stretch, the former secretary of state, first lady, senator, and 2016 Democratic nominee is almost completely absent from the campaign trail. Most Democrats are keen to keep it that way, fearing that her reappearance could cost them a golden opportunity of winning back control of Congress.

Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, are due to go back on the road next month, embarking on a 13-city tour in which they will conduct “one-of-a-kind conversations" about "the most impactful moments in modern history". But Democratic strategists are relieved that their first event will be 12 days after Americans go to the polls on Nov 6.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/democrats-keep-kiss-of-death-hillary-clinton-away-from-campaign-trail



See, that's an actual link to a publication, not some crazy-ass shit I just dreamed up and posted as "proof"!

bigdog wrote:

CLINTON HATERS ARE STILL IN THE MINORITY IN AMERICA. In fact, the Clintons are the only people in history besides Franklin D Roosevelt that the American people wanted to be president THREE times.

Just makes you sick, doesn't it Deus?

May soon be FOUR times when Chelsea makes her run. She's come a long way since Rush Windbag called her the White House dog.

Deus X wrote:If you think "As a whole, this nation HATES Trump" you're not paying attention. He has millions of batshit crazy true-believers. Those two incidents last week are proof of that as well as proof of the extent to which they'll go to show it.

Two insane incidents don't prove a thing about "millions."

And believe you me I'm paying very close attention, and I don't discount the fact that the man has hordes of nuts-for-Trump followers. I just think he's alienated a helluva lot more than he's seduced.

But look, let's just wait and see what Tuesday tells us, OK?

RealLindaL wrote:
Two insane incidents don't prove a thing about "millions."

And believe you me I'm paying very close attention, and I don't discount the fact that the man has hordes of nuts-for-Trump followers.   I just think he's alienated a helluva lot more than he's seduced.

You're right, exactly right, those two episodes  "don't prove a thing about 'millions.'"

My only contention is that this is not a sure thing. I was certain Hillary would be elected in 2016 as was almost everyone else and the result of that election makes me doubt the certainty everyone seems to feel about this one. I was as shocked as everyone else and I don't want to make that mistake again.

I've read that a few contrarians think that the certainty of a "Blue Wave" may allow some Democrats to feel that their vote isn't necessary. I guess I'm just not a true believer, is all.

Deus X wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:So what's your excuse?  Because you've defended his every move.

You're full of shit, FT. I haven't "defended his every move", I'm just pointing out that the Democrats might not win the House. You're a fuckin' ignorant Pollyanna who only reads crap that confirms your bias. And apparently, you're so fuckin' dumb you've already forgotten 2016. Remember all the polls that said Queen Bitch Hillary was gonna win? How'd that turn out?

You jumped down my throat in one post because I suggested that the state of the economy was a factor in this election and you took that to mean I believed that Trump was single-handedly responsible for it. Obviously your reading comprehension skills are as defective as your reasoning. And keep that incident in mind because I'm gonna return the favor--the difference being I'll be right not full of shit like you were.

Screw you and your damn horse.

Deus X wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:
Two insane incidents don't prove a thing about "millions."

And believe you me I'm paying very close attention, and I don't discount the fact that the man has hordes of nuts-for-Trump followers.   I just think he's alienated a helluva lot more than he's seduced.

You're right, exactly right, those two episodes  "don't prove a thing about 'millions.'"

My only contention is that this is not a sure thing. I was certain Hillary would be elected in 2016 as was almost everyone else and the result of that election makes me doubt the certainty everyone seems to feel about this one. I was as shocked as everyone else and I don't want to make that mistake again.

I've read that a few contrarians think that the certainty of a "Blue Wave" may allow some Democrats to feel that their vote isn't necessary. I guess I'm just not a true believer, is all.

Of course it's not a sure thing, and I'm really not a "true believer," either (since there's no empirical evidence until the voting is done and counted).  I guess I'm just trying to think positive for a change, while recognizing that you're right -- we could be severely disappointed as we were in 2016, and even more so, since we now know exactly what it means to have Trump in the Oval Office.   I just can't even imagine what a Democratic loss now will mean for the nation, so am trying not to. I've been taking a lot of deep breaths, tho.

RealLindaL wrote:

Deus X wrote:

RealLindaL wrote:
Two insane incidents don't prove a thing about "millions."

And believe you me I'm paying very close attention, and I don't discount the fact that the man has hordes of nuts-for-Trump followers.   I just think he's alienated a helluva lot more than he's seduced.

You're right, exactly right, those two episodes  "don't prove a thing about 'millions.'"

My only contention is that this is not a sure thing. I was certain Hillary would be elected in 2016 as was almost everyone else and the result of that election makes me doubt the certainty everyone seems to feel about this one. I was as shocked as everyone else and I don't want to make that mistake again.

I've read that a few contrarians think that the certainty of a "Blue Wave" may allow some Democrats to feel that their vote isn't necessary. I guess I'm just not a true believer, is all.

Of course it's not a sure thing, and I'm really not a "true believer," either (since there's no empirical evidence until the voting is done and counted).  I guess I'm just trying to think positive for a change, while recognizing that you're right -- we could be severely disappointed as we were in 2016, and even more so, since we now know exactly what it means to have Trump in the Oval Office.   I just can't even imagine what a Democratic loss now will mean for the nation, so am trying not to.  I've been taking a lot of deep breaths, tho.

What I'm worried about is electoral tampering.

WARNING to DEMOCRATS! Do NOT Concede!!
By Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, Reader Supported News

06 November 18



Donald Trump is in power in large part because Democrats have repeatedly conceded elections they really won. On Tuesday, that MUST change.

Anyone deemed a close loser MUST fight. Every tally must be contested, every denial challenged, all missing ballots found, every provisional ballot honored.

What could bury our democracy? Stripped voter rolls, erased precincts, lies about where to vote, voting stations moved out of town, intimidated voters, impossible-to-get ID, street addresses required on reservations, lies about eligibility, unsent absentee ballots, suppressed registrations, hacked electronic machines, hidden source codes, trashed provisionals. It’s all been happening since at least 2000.

Highly qualified teams of election protection specialists all over the country (www.freepress.org and many more; the state and national Democratic parties have hotlines) are ready to fight.

Nobody “officially" losing by less than ten percent, or while winning the exit polls, should walk away.

Tell your candidates: DO NOT CONCEDE!!

Anyone working on this election MUST contact your candidate and DEMAND an “I will not concede pledge” BEFORE Tuesday.

Why?

In Florida 2000, Governor Jeb Bush stripped at least 94,000 mostly black/Hispanic voters from registration rolls. Electronic machines flipped the count. The infamous “Brooks Brothers Terror Mob” (supported by Brett Kavanaugh) stopped the recount, which the Supreme Court buried.

Rightful winner Al Gore then killed a Congressional challenge to Florida’s Electoral College delegation, handing George W. Bush the presidency.

In 2004, John Kerry conceded Ohio with 250,000 votes uncounted while officially losing by less than 120,000. VP candidate John Edwards demanded he not concede. But at noon, Kerry handed W a second term, then went wind surfing.

Hillary Clinton beat Trump by some 3 million votes but ignored massive irregularities in Michigan,Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Florida. She, Gore, Kerry and the corporate Democrats have done little to stop election theft or end the Electoral College, which could re-enshrine Trump in 2020.

Democrats did not scrutinize six US Senate races in 2014 and 2016 in which they won exit polls and/or lost by very tight official margins. Those seats let Trump control the judiciary, cut taxes for the super-rich, and so much more.

This year, scores of federal, state and local offices will be stolen … unless YOU and your candidates finally fight.

Until every registration is defended, every ballot counted, every electron scrutinized … Tell your candidates: DO NOT CONCEDE!!!!

https://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/53224-rsn-warning-to-democrats-do-not-concede

Floridatexan wrote:What I'm worried about is electoral tampering.

IMHO that should be the very least of your worries, FT, since it's so very highly unlikely (at least in any significant, widespread way).

Of course, if there's a Blue Wave, that's exactly what Trump is going to claim.
Hate to see you throw your hat in the ring with conspiracy theorists like him.

Deus, the "washingtonexaminer" website is the best you can find?
I don't disagree that some Democratic candidates don't want help from Hillary.

Al Gore didn't want help from Bill in 2000 either.
History generally agrees that if Gore had embraced Clinton rather than treating him like a pariah, he would have had that 400 extra votes in Florida. Minorities would have shown up to vote for him.

Politicians aren't always right.
Once more, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes in 2016. There's not a thing in the world you'll ever be able to do to change that. Which absolutely and totally proves that more American voters wanted her to be president than wanted the POS that's in the White House now.

And BTW, voting is HEAVY today and will most likely break records. So that red wave just ain't gonna happen. That's because young people are voting in droves all over the country.
Those are facts.
The other fact is, that unlike what T.Rump says, there won't be Armageddon tomorrow if the Republicans lose. Maybe for him, but not for America.

This election, and the next, are going to basically come down to this:

Sane people vs. cultists.

That's it. Trump supporters are not really much different from Scientologists now. They're flat-out gone. They're programmed.

Hell, Hannity even stumped for Trump last night. They're not even really pretending that FOX isn't propaganda anymore.

I still don't know how people get so fooled by such an obvious con-man, but the conservative mind is a strange, fear-driven thing.

RealLindaL wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:What I'm worried about is electoral tampering.

IMHO that should be the very least of your worries, FT, since it's so very highly unlikely (at least in any significant, widespread way).

Of course, if there's a Blue Wave, that's exactly what Trump is going to claim.
Hate to see you throw your hat in the ring with conspiracy theorists like him.

"Conspiracy theory" is a much misused term since the days of George W Bush, the 2nd worst president in our history.

The DOJ, Linda, has dispatched "poll watchers" to several locations where the races are hotly contested. Their sole purpose, as defined by the *resident, is to look for voter fraud.

"In a move civil rights groups denounced as a blatant attempt by the Trump administration to intimidate minorities, spread hysteria about non-existent voter fraud, and suppress turnout, the Justice Department announced on Monday that it is dispatching personnel to “monitor” 35 voting locations in 19 states during Tuesday’s midterms just as President Donald Trump warned in a tweet that any “illegal voting” will be punished with “maximum criminal penalties.”

“We condemn the Justice Department’s announcement regarding the deployment of federal observers,” Kristen Clarke, president and CEO of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said in a statement. “In stark contrast to how these observers have been deployed in the past, Attorney General Jeff Sessions does not have his eyes set on voter suppression and last-minute intimidation but is instead exploiting this moment to push a false narrative about voter fraud.”

“At every turn, this Justice Department has failed to take action to enforce the Voting Rights Act and protect the interests of minority voters. And the latest announcement from DOJ makes clear that this is still the case,” Clarke continued. “This is a Justice Department that has abandoned its mission and lost its way.”..."

https://truthout.org/articles/experts-warn-justice-department-poll-monitors-being-sent-to-intimidate-voters/

Soros... lol. All ready lining up excuses. Get ready for your angst and gnashing of teeth. The real test will be what the kooks in the house will do. Legislate or investigate. One gives dems a chance in 2020.

I have to think that the useful idiots will fatigue at some point. Heads can only explode so many times.

PkrBum wrote:Soros... lol. All ready lining up excuses. Get ready for your angst and gnashing of teeth. The real test will be what the kooks in the house will do. Legislate or investigate. One gives dems a chance in 2020.

I have to think that the useful idiots will fatigue at some point. Heads can only explode so many times.

And you're still a POS.

Floridatexan wrote:The DOJ, Linda, has dispatched "poll watchers" to several locations where the races are hotly contested.  Their sole purpose, as defined by the *resident, is to look for voter fraud.

Thank you for confirming that the president is a major fomenter of the "voter fraud" conspiracy theory.  

Highlighting from what you yourself posted:

"In a move civil rights groups denounced as a blatant attempt by the Trump administration to intimidate minorities, spread hysteria about non-existent voter fraud, and suppress turnout, the Justice Department announced on Monday that it is dispatching personnel to “monitor” 35 voting locations in 19 states during Tuesday’s midterms just as President Donald Trump warned in a tweet that any “illegal voting” will be punished with “maximum criminal penalties.”

Duh!