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Trump revokes former CIA Director John Brennan's security clearance

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


President Donald Trump has withdrawn ex-CIA Director John Brennan's security clearance, in a move hitting one of the administration's most vocal critics.

The action, announced Wednesday by press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, is more of a political than practical one.

Sanders said the White House will also consider whether to revoke security clearances of other former high-ranking law enforcement and intelligence officials — all of whom have earned Trump's ire. Those people include former ex-FBI Director James Comey, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former National Security Advisor Susan Rice, ex-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, former FBI agent Peter Strzok and ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/15/trump-revokes-former-cia-director-john-brennans-security-clearance.html

RealLindaL



Good holy grief. Closer and closer to the 3rd Reich (or should I say 4th?).

PkrBum

PkrBum

Brennan is just another authoritarian govt liar... just like clapper, mccabe, strzok, comey, rice... etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/07/31/obama-should-fire-john-brennan/

https://www.lawandcrime.com/opinion/did-john-brennan-perjure-himself-over-steele-dossier/amp

Sal

Sal

.... so, now we have the "enemies list" ....

.... I think we've seen this episode ....

.... I wonder how it'll end this time.

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

Why does the ex-CIA Director need a security clearance?  

Access to classified information is on a need-to-know-basis anyway regardless of one's clearance.  And that being the case, what's the point in revoking a clearance for access to information someone has no access to anyway because as an ex official they have no need to know?

Sounds like a lot of nonsense all the way around to me. Trump showboating for the media and those who oppose Trump trying to create hysteria in the media.

ConservaLady

ConservaLady

No security clearances for traitors!

There is and has been a treasonous soft-coup attempt underway against President Trump and he is pushing back against these bad actors. Expect to see a lot more of these traitors lose their official positions and security clearances.

Deus X

Deus X

ConservaLady wrote:No security clearances for traitors!

You mean Republicans like Nunes and all his scurvy suckbuddies.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

ConservaLady wrote:No security clearances for traitors!

There is and has been a treasonous soft-coup attempt underway against President Trump and he is pushing back against these bad actors.  Expect to see a lot more of these traitors lose their official positions and security clearances.

There's no other way to say this: you are truly stupid.

Telstar

Telstar

Great. Maybe this means they will finally start hanging the traitors in the White House until they are dead.

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

I'm not sure what the point of revocation of Brennan's security clearance is ... or why he or anyone else should really be all that upset about it.

So Trump revoked his clearance ... a future President could reinstate it in a heartbeat if he needed to have it.

For a younger person who has not yet peaked in their government career it could be debilitating in terms of being able to get work as a Federal contractor or consultant .... but in Brennan's case, isn't he just working as a talking head for the media nowadays? I kind of doubt he has any further plans to work in government?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

EmeraldGhost wrote:I'm not sure what the point of revocation of Brennan's security clearance is ... or why he or anyone else should really be all that upset about it.

So Trump revoked his clearance ... a future President could reinstate it in a heartbeat if he needed to have it.

For a younger person who has not yet peaked in their government career it could be debilitating in terms of being able to get work as a Federal contractor or consultant .... but in Brennan's case, isn't he just working as a talking head for the media nowadays?   I kind of doubt he has any further plans to work in government?  


It's the humiliation factor he's after, and there are other targets. He thinks it makes him look strong, when in fact, he looks like a spineless coward.

zsomething



EmeraldGhost wrote:Why does the ex-CIA Director need a security clearance?  

Access to classified information is on a need-to-know-basis anyway regardless of one's clearance.  And that being the case, what's the point in revoking a clearance for access to information someone has no access to anyway because as an ex official they have no need to know?

Sounds like a lot of nonsense all the way around to me.  Trump showboating for the media and those who oppose Trump trying to create hysteria in the media.

One reason so many ex officials have security clearance is because they still have valuable insight, based on long experience, and are often consulted because that's the best way to get informed opinions. National security isn't a game, although Trump seems to think it is. The CIA keeps people on to avoid loss of institutional knowledge... which is a valuable asset.

Trump is an un-serious person who, though he won it, has never really taken on the job of being president. He doesn't understand the job and thinks it's no more important than being in a reality show. He worries about "ratings" and "plotlines" more than he does about things like preventing another 9-11. Hell, the Russians hacked into our energy grid and Donnie Spraytan has yet to do fuck-all about it.

He's not president of the U.S., he's president of the Donald Trump Fan Club. The only people he gives a whiskey-dicked fuck-attempt about are his little cult of sycophants, like your stick-up-her-ass pal "Kim" there, taking time out of rubbing food in her hair and yelling for apples to post her insipid twaddle. I mean, that's what he's catering to. What a loser he is, having that for a base. He wants to be clapped-for, and that's his only source. He needs it, so it doesn't matter if he may be putting the country at risk by taking a knowledgeable individual out of the loop; all Donnie Dimwit cares about is trying to bully people into "saying nice things" if they don't want to be punished.

Fuck 'im. The only way to deal with a bully is to not give 'em what they want, and, once the opportunity presents itself, deal them out. All Trump's doing is getting people on Brennan's side, and adding more weight to his words. Trump thought he'd shut him up, but the big news story of the day is Brennan flat-out saying Trump's claims that he didn't collude with Russia are "hogwash," and people are debating whether Trump's taken another step into fascism. Trump did nothing with this move but make himself look even more petty, deranged, and un-serious about his job.

As usual, it's an unforced error that will do Trump more harm than good. Donnie Two-Scoops has zero tactical knowledge, because he's spent his whole pampered-ass bitch-boy life in a safe little balloon, surrounded by yes-men who never confronted him about anything... and if they did, he could fire them. Now Trump's around a lot of people who don't have to buy the shit he's selling and give him the okey-doke... and he's reacting very stupidly to it. He's looking like a trivial halfwit who can't handle the responsibility he's given, and he's making everybody who still supports him look so stupid they probably need a minder. He could avoid most of his problems by just doing nothing, but he's incapable. He's weak and he can be taunted into anything, 'cuz he can't take a shot. He's got the impulse control of a toddler and he's surrounded by people who are too afraid of his tantrums to give him any sort of control. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't doing so much damage to our international standing. We're a goddamn joke now, thanks to this dolt.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

zsomething wrote:
EmeraldGhost wrote:Why does the ex-CIA Director need a security clearance?  

Access to classified information is on a need-to-know-basis anyway regardless of one's clearance.  And that being the case, what's the point in revoking a clearance for access to information someone has no access to anyway because as an ex official they have no need to know?

Sounds like a lot of nonsense all the way around to me.  Trump showboating for the media and those who oppose Trump trying to create hysteria in the media.

One reason so many ex officials have security clearance is because they still have valuable insight, based on long experience, and are often consulted because that's the best way to get informed opinions.  National security isn't a game, although Trump seems to think it is.  The CIA keeps people on to avoid loss of institutional knowledge... which is a valuable asset.

Trump is an un-serious person who, though he won it, has never really taken on the job of being president.  He doesn't understand the job and thinks it's no more important than being in a reality show.  He worries about "ratings" and "plotlines" more than he does about things like preventing another 9-11.   Hell, the Russians hacked into our energy grid and Donnie Spraytan has yet to do fuck-all about it.  

He's not president of the U.S., he's president of the Donald Trump Fan Club.  The only people he gives a whiskey-dicked fuck-attempt about are his little cult of sycophants, like your stick-up-her-ass pal "Kim" there, taking time out of rubbing food in her hair and yelling for apples to post her insipid twaddle.  I mean, that's what he's catering to.  What a loser he is, having that for a base.  He wants to be clapped-for, and that's his only source.  He needs it, so it doesn't matter if he may be putting the country at risk by taking a knowledgeable individual out of the loop;  all Donnie Dimwit cares about is trying to bully people into "saying nice things" if they don't want to be punished.

Fuck 'im.  The only way to deal with a bully is to not give 'em what they want, and, once the opportunity presents itself, deal them out.  All Trump's doing is getting people on Brennan's side, and adding more weight to his words.  Trump thought he'd shut him up, but the big news story of the day is Brennan flat-out saying Trump's claims that he didn't collude with Russia are "hogwash," and people are debating whether Trump's taken another step into fascism.  Trump did nothing with this move but make himself look even more petty, deranged, and un-serious about his job.

As usual, it's an unforced error that will do Trump more harm than good.  Donnie Two-Scoops has zero tactical knowledge, because he's spent his whole pampered-ass bitch-boy life in a safe little balloon, surrounded by yes-men who never confronted him about anything... and if they did, he could fire them.  Now Trump's around a lot of people who don't have to buy the shit he's selling and give him the okey-doke... and he's reacting very stupidly to it.  He's looking like a trivial halfwit who can't handle the responsibility he's given, and he's making everybody who still supports him look so stupid they probably need a minder.  He could avoid most of his problems by just doing nothing, but he's incapable.  He's weak and he can be taunted into anything, 'cuz he can't take a shot.  He's got the impulse control of a toddler and he's surrounded by people who are too afraid of his tantrums to give him any sort of control.  It'd be hilarious if it wasn't doing so much damage to our international standing.  We're a goddamn joke now, thanks to this dolt.

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After Brennan, 9 others face losing security clearances, too

Aug 15, 2018 Updated 8 hrs ago

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https://pilotonline.com/news/government/nation/article_c2534642-5969-5134-9826-9d32ea76e76c.html

ConservaLady

ConservaLady

Brennan is part of the Deep State treasonous cabal of the likes never before seen in this country's history.   There is and has been an attempted soft-coup underway against a fairly and democratically elected Conservative Christian President that began the day the common people chose him to lead our country.  

Many Americans do not realize how much danger our great democratic country is in from these malevolent internal forces that seek to destroy the traditions and values that Made America Great and take away our liberties and prosperity.

This treasonous cabal's plot will be exposed though in due time with strong President Trump at the helm.   In other countries people would hang over what is going on with these plotters and bad actors.   We probably won't do that though  But their power will be taken away and they will skulk away in public disgrace in the end.

This is all part of President Trump's draining of the swamp.  As he said he would do.

Gregg Jarrett: Ex-CIA Director Brennan shouldn't have a security clearance - He's a national security risk

Gregg Jarrett By Gregg Jarrett | Fox News

Former CIA Director John Brennan is a serious national security risk, and President Trump was wise and correct to revoke his security clearance Wednesday.

Brennan has repeatedly shown he cannot be trusted with classified or top-secret information. He has a history of leaking and exploiting confidential material for partisan reasons. Maybe it keeps him on TV, but it also jeopardizes national security.

The primary job of the agency Brennan ran for President Obama is to collect, process, and analyze intelligence information from all over the world. This valuable material is then utilized to protect Americans from harm.

However, Brennan has demonstrated that he is all too willing to use this information to harm Americans, including President Trump. He did so in the 2016 presidential election.

As I explain in Chapter 6 of my new book, “The Russia Hoax,” Brennan politicized and weaponized what was false intelligence to damage the presidential candidacy of Donald Trump.

Brennan surely knew that the anti-Trump “dossier” paid for by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's campaign was nothing more than a preposterous collection of rumors, innuendo, supposition and wild speculation. He knew it was derived from multiple hearsay accounts from inherently unreliable and anonymous sources in Russia who specialize in lies and disinformation.

Yet Brennan did more than anyone to promulgate the fabricated and uncorroborated “dossier.”

The author of the document, former British spy Christopher Steele, was trained in deception and chicanery, and was inherently untrustworthy. Steele was on the record telling the U.S. Justice Department that he was “desperate that Donald Trump not get elected” and “passionate about his not being president.”

It is improper to use a discredited source with such severe and pervasive bias. Yet Brennan and his FBI counterparts didn’t care. Even after Steele was fired for lying, they continued to use him as a covert source in their illicit scheme to frame Trump for crimes he never committed.

Brennan was the instigator.
By advocating the use of the “dossier,” he managed to orchestrate the investigation of Trump that was formally launched by FBI Director James Comey and his underlings, including Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe. All three have since been fired for their egregious misconduct.

But it was Brennan who played a central role in promoting the fictitious Trump-Russia “collusion” narrative.

There is no good or legitimate reason for Brennan to maintain a security clearance. We expect CIA directors to be nonpartisan and apolitical. Brennan, always the devoted Clinton acolyte and sycophant, was not.

Brennan’s constant political and personal condemnation of President Trump only underscores his devious motivations for misusing classified information and disseminating false intelligence.  

Consider this Brennan Twitter rant aimed at President Trump: “When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history.”  

Tired clichés aside, is this the kind of person who should have access to classified information during a Trump presidency – or any presidency?  

Consider also the ominous warning issued by President Obama’s United Nations ambassador, Samantha Power: “Not a good idea to piss off John Brennan.”

The former CIA director is clearly capable of malevolent action. He should not be armed with the nation’s secrets to inflict even more damage than he has already wrought.

Telstar

Telstar

polecat

polecat

How surprised would you be if you found out Vladimir Putin had a security clearance? - Wrath of Khan

How soon until Trump starts talking about revoking President Obama's security clearances? - Roland Scahill


By November, Republicans will be saying that it’s ok to collude with a hostile government to get elected, that it’s fine to use the n-word in everyday conversation, and that dogs are horrible and should be fired. - Roland Scahill


So Trump wants to yank Sally Yates’ clearance because “national security.” Recall that Yates warned Trump about Michael Flynn’s ties to Russia. As did others, who also noted his work for Turkey. Trump then gave Flynn *the most sensitive national security position in government.* - Radley Balko


Seems that the only person who didn’t tape Trump was President Obama. - Roland Scahill




"Obama set race relations back" sounds better than "Obama really upset all us racists." -John Fugelsang



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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

His revocation of Brennan's security clearance is just another example of his nonexistent understanding of how our government is supposed to work. Once again he does not follow the norms. Norms and procedures are just things that get in the way for him.

What if he starts pulling security clearances for those on his enemies list or Mueller and his team? Would THAT be enough to stir the spineless Republicans out of their stupor and call him to account? Are they just going to wait until he's fired or taken power away from anyone who opposes him before they wake up and take a stand?

Then he admits in an interview that he's basically upset with the intelligence community and blames them for initiating the Russia investigation. He admits that it is not a matter of national security or any of the other stated justifications for pulling a clearance. It was to punish Brennan, nothing more, another tantrum. What is really unbelievable is to see Republican Senators agreeing that this is just great and is about time that Brennan's clearance be revoked.

Telstar

Telstar

othershoe1030 wrote:

What if he starts pulling security clearances for those on his enemies list or Mueller and his team? Would THAT be enough to stir the spineless Republicans out of their stupor and call him to account? Are they just going to wait until he's fired or taken power away from anyone who opposes him before they wake up and take a stand?



What it's going to take is real Americans need to remove every republican we can. Turn Florida blue. Remind everyone that ex congressman Mark Foley is a regular visitor at Mar A Lago.

2seaoat



No security clearances for traitors!


What have you done to think you have the right to call these folks traitors? Brennan is fluent in Arabic. He is an asset as we speak. If we allow our intelligence community to be turned over to knuckle dragging pickup driving confederate flag in the back, haters who think they are the ones who dictate who God is and who is a traitor......geez....this sock is comedic, and if this is not intentionally being done, I would ask one legitimate question for the LADY......did you graduate from high school? It was not Pace high school. We know that the teaching staff would never allow this unabashed ignorance to get a diploma.....or.....maybe not.......

PkrBum

PkrBum



2seaoat



Too funny.....now he is a communist. Sound bites, more propaganda, and they still cannot take this man's amazing knowledge of the world. He is part of the intelligence community, and last time I checked the only communist is in the White House as he reaches out and praises them all the time. The man knows what Trump did.....he also knows way more than anybody has even speculated.....Trump was compromised in the eighties and he is our Manchurian candidate, while Brennan is simply the messenger.

PkrBum

PkrBum

Too cute how you can ignore his direct quotes and somehow rationalize that into a blurred 80s reference.

Good talk... lol. Rolling Eyes

2seaoat



Not talk, but understanding that there are due process considerations base on objective standards for security clearance and nowhere has anybody shown one objective standard set forth in those clearances which he breached. He has simply attacked the President who he has actual knowledge that the President has been compromised by the Russians, but cannot say a thing because of those same OBJECTIVE standards, so please show me the video where someone gives one objective standard which has been breached.......the generals did not back this guy because he is perfect, rather Trump is acting like a fascist dictator and wants to silence his critics Putin Style....no poison yet....

PkrBum

PkrBum

Pretty sure lying to congress about wiretapping members of congress and the citizenry is a breach.

But you do you man... lol.

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