Why are we letting all these people from Shithole countries into our country?

RealLindaL wrote:

Telstar wrote:It reminds me of something somebody wrote above a urinal in a mens room. Did you vote for Trump? If you did you can't pee here, your penis is in the White House. I wonder if your friend heard that one?

Ha. Doubt it.  Maybe I'll share it with her when she gets back home.

Only thing is, that's a major insult to the male appendix.

EmeraldGhost wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

EmeraldGhost wrote:

These photos were taken after the recent hurricane that blew through. Looks like Houston or Puerto Rico after the storm.

And what's your point?  That people from Haiti can't develop, assimilate and contribute to America because they're from a poor, third world country?

And no Norwegian in his or her right mind would give-up a median yearly income in excess of $96,000, free education and free medical care, plus 1 month family vacations each year, to live in this dysfunctional, racist, and unjust economy that's rigged for the rich to steal from the poor, a healthcare system that doesn't work for shit, an upper educational system priced for wealthy kids only, an army that's fighting in 76 countries and winning in none of them, and a president who's bonkers emotionally and psychologically.

Why in hell would a Norwegian ever consider coming here?  Talk about shithole countries!!!  

Wordslinger wrote:

And what's your point?  

panhandler wrote:

zsomething wrote:A couple of ya'll are really fucking stupid.  Like, profoundly.  Sorry, but I'm out of patience.

The issue is not that Trump called countries "shitholes."  The issue is that he doesn't want to take immigrants from countries he deems to be "shitholes."  

There's a big difference, and please tell me you're not too goddamned dumb to see that.  I know Pkr is, but I've given up on Pkr.  We've all got stuff stuck between the treads of our sneakers worth more than that shitsmear.  

Whatever your opinion of Haiti or Norway, you've got to see that the worthiness of the individual isn't dependent on where they're from.  It doesn't matter if Haiti's a poor country when we're talking about immigrating people.  

Trump calling other countries names is impolitic and it's dumb for a president to do, but that's not the problem -- the problem is that he wants preferred immigration based on country-of-origin, rather than the merit of the individual in question.  Being from Norway is not an achievement.  Being from Haiti is not a detriment.

Forget the word "shithole" for a minute.  It's distracting you.  If Trump had just said, "Why are we taking all these immigrants from Africa and Haiti?  We need more people from Norway," it's still just as racist and just as stupid.  The "shithole" word is not the problem.

And also quit pretending this is "merit-based" anything.  When you talk about countries instead of individuals, you're completely torpedoing any pretense that it's about merit, because every country has its geniuses, and every country has its useless criminal types.  "Norway" or "Haiti" are not factors in that question.

EmeraldGhost wrote:

zsomething wrote:A couple of ya'll are really fucking stupid.  Like, profoundly.  Sorry, but I'm out of patience.

The issue is not that Trump called countries "shitholes."  The issue is that he doesn't want to take immigrants from countries he deems to be "shitholes."  

There's a big difference, and please tell me you're not too goddamned dumb to see that.  I know Pkr is, but I've given up on Pkr.  We've all got stuff stuck between the treads of our sneakers worth more than that shitsmear.  

Whatever your opinion of Haiti or Norway, you've got to see that the worthiness of the individual isn't dependent on where they're from.  It doesn't matter if Haiti's a poor country when we're talking about immigrating people.  

Trump calling other countries names is impolitic and it's dumb for a president to do, but that's not the problem -- the problem is that he wants preferred immigration based on country-of-origin, rather than the merit of the individual in question.  Being from Norway is not an achievement.  Being from Haiti is not a detriment.

Forget the word "shithole" for a minute.  It's distracting you.  If Trump had just said, "Why are we taking all these immigrants from Africa and Haiti?  We need more people from Norway," it's still just as racist and just as stupid.  The "shithole" word is not the problem.

And also quit pretending this is "merit-based" anything.  When you talk about countries instead of individuals, you're completely torpedoing any pretense that it's about merit, because every country has its geniuses, and every country has its useless criminal types.  "Norway" or "Haiti" are not factors in that question.

So ... what you're saying here, as I understand, is we should focus more on the sh*ttiness of the individuals we are contemplating allowing to immigrate to the US .... regardless of what sh*thole country they come from?

Okay!   I can go along with that.  

zsomething wrote:

Forget the word "shithole" for a minute.  It's distracting you.  If Trump had just said, "Why are we taking all these immigrants from Africa and Haiti?  We need more people from Norway," it's still just as racist and just as stupid.  The "shithole" word is not the problem.

And also quit pretending this is "merit-based" anything.  When you talk about countries instead of individuals, you're completely torpedoing any pretense that it's about merit, because every country has its geniuses, and every country has its useless criminal types.  "Norway" or "Haiti" are not factors in that question.

othershoe1030 wrote: .... Reports say he is claiming it will endear him to his base.  ....

Wordslinger wrote:In summary, for those who don't keep up with Trump's tweeting indiscretions and racist declarations, all of us by now know that he's a) a racist b) a misogynist, c) unaware and uninterested in governmental operation and the details of foreign policy, d) narcissistic, e) dangerously egoistic and childlike in disputes with foreign leaders, f) emotionally and psychologically unstable and g)  
sans dignity, compassion, or empathy or, in simpler terms, he's simply unsuited to be President of the United States.    

Deus X wrote: ....

And if you look at the comments for the above article, you find this gem:

"Yet every country with a better quality of life is more liberal and socialist than the USA. The 15 or so countries with better population health statuses all have some degree of a national universal social health care delivery (and most get those outcomes at half the cost of the US system). There is a very big difference between the democratic socialism in the Netherlands, UK, and Canada than the socialism that destroyed a country like Venezuela."