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AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes credit he hasn't earned

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-trump-distorts-immigration-report-031927207--politics.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Donald Trump boasted Tuesday night about corporate job expansion and military cost-savings that actually took root under his predecessor and gave a one-sided account of the costs and benefits to the economy from immigration — ignoring the upside.

A look at some of his claims in his prime-time speech to Congress:

TRUMP: "According to the National Academy of Sciences, our current immigration system costs America's taxpayers many billions of dollars a year."

THE FACTS: That's not exactly what that report says. It says immigrants "contribute to government finances by paying taxes and add expenditures by consuming public services."

The report found that while first-generation immigrants are more expensive to governments than their native-born counterparts, primarily at the state and local level, immigrants' children "are among the strongest economic and fiscal contributors in the population." This second generation contributed more in taxes on a per capita basis, for example, than did non-immigrants in the period studied, 1994-2013.

The report found that the "long-run fiscal impact" of immigrants and their children would probably be seen as more positive "if their role in sustaining labor force growth and contributing to innovation and entrepreneurial activity were taken into account."

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TRUMP: "We've saved taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars by bringing down the price" of the F-35 jet fighter.

THE FACTS: The cost savings he persists in bragging about were secured in full or large part before he became president.

The head of the Air Force program announced significant price reductions in the contract for the Lockheed F-35 fighter jet Dec. 19 — after Trump had tweeted about the cost but weeks before he met the company's CEO about it.

Pentagon managers took action even before the election to save money on the contract. Richard Aboulafia, an analyst with the aerospace consulting firm Teal Group, said there is no evidence of any additional cost savings as a result of Trump's actions.

TRUMP: "Since my election, Ford, Fiat-Chrysler, General Motors, Sprint, Softbank, Lockheed, Intel, Walmart and many others have announced that they will invest billions of dollars in the United States and will create tens of thousands of new American jobs."

THE FACTS: It's unlikely Trump is the sole or even primary reason for the expected hiring he cites. Many of the announcements reflect corporate decisions that predate his election.

In the case of Intel, construction of the Chandler, Arizona, factory referred to by Trump actually began during Barack Obama's presidency. The project was delayed by insufficient demand for Intel's high-powered computer chips, but the company now expects to finish the factory within four years because it anticipates business growth.

More important, even as some companies create jobs, others are laying off workers. The best measure of whether more jobs are actually being created is the monthly employment report issued by the Labor Department, which nets out those gains and losses. The department will issue its report for February, the first full month of Trump's term, on March 10.


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TRUMP: His budget plan will offer "one of the largest increases in national defense spending in American history."

THE FACTS: Three times in recent years, Congress raised defense budgets by larger percentages than the $54 billion, or 10 percent, increase that Trump proposes. The base defense budget grew by $41 billion, or 14.3 percent, in 2002; by $37 billion, or 11.3 percent, in 2003, and by $47 billion, or 10.9 percent, in 2008, according to Defense Department figures.


TRUMP: "Ninety-four million Americans are out of the labor force."

THE FACTS: That's true, but for the vast majority of them, it's because they choose to be.

That 94 million figure includes everyone aged 16 and older who doesn't have a job and isn't looking for one. So it includes retirees, parents who are staying home to raise children, and high school and college students who are studying rather than working.

They are unlikely to work regardless of the state of the economy. With the huge baby-boomer generation reaching retirement age and many of them retiring, the population of those out of the labor force is increasing and will continue to do so, most economists forecast.

It's true that some of those out of the workforce are of working age and have given up looking for work. But that number is probably a small fraction of the 94 million Trump cited.

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TRUMP: "According to data provided by the Department of Justice, the vast majority of individuals convicted for terrorism-related offenses since 9/11 came here from outside of our country. We have seen the attacks at home — from Boston to San Bernardino to the Pentagon and yes, even the World Trade Center."

THE FACTS: It's unclear what Justice Department data he's citing, but the most recent government information that has come out doesn't back up his claim. Just over half the people Trump talks about were actually born in the United States, according to Homeland Security Department research revealed last week. That report said of 82 people the government determined were inspired by a foreign terrorist group to attempt or carry out an attack in the U.S., just over half were native-born citizens.


Even the attacks Trump singled out weren't entirely the work of foreigners. Syed Rizwan Farook, who along with his Pakistani wife killed 14 people in the deadly 2015 attack in San Bernardino, California, was born in Chicago.

It's true that in the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11, the FBI's primary concern was with terrorists from overseas feared to be plotting attacks in the United States. But that's no longer the case.

The FBI and the Justice Department have been preoccupied with violent extremists from inside the U.S. who are inspired by the calls to violence and mayhem of the Islamic State group. The Justice Department has prosecuted scores of IS-related cases since 2014, and many of the defendants are U.S. citizens.

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TRUMP: "Obamacare is collapsing ... imploding Obamacare disaster."

THE FACTS: There are problems with the 2010 health care law, but whether it's collapsing is hotly disputed.

One of the two major components of the Affordable Care Act has seen a spike in premiums and a drop in participation from insurers. But the other component, equally important, seems to be working fairly well, even if its costs are a concern.

Trump and congressional Republicans want to repeal the whole thing, which risks leaving millions of people uninsured if the replacement plan has shortcomings. Some critics say GOP rhetoric itself is making things worse by creating uncertainty about the future.

The health law offers subsidized private health insurance along with a state option to expand Medicaid for low-income people. Together, the two arms of the program cover more than 20 million people.

Republican governors whose states have expanded Medicaid are trying to find a way to persuade Congress and the administration to keep the expansion, and maybe even build on it, while imposing limits on the long-term costs of Medicaid.

While the Medicaid expansion seems to be working, the markets for subsidized private health insurance are stressed in many states. Also affected are millions of people who buy individual policies outside the government markets, and face the same high premiums with no financial help from the health law.

Larry Levitt of the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation says "implosion" is too strong a term. An AP count found that 12.2 million people signed up for this year, despite the Trump administration's threats to repeal the law.


But a health care blogger and industry consultant, Robert Laszewski, agrees with Trump, saying too few young, healthy people have signed up to guarantee the stability of the insurance markets.

As pkr loves to say . . . . . YEA TEAM!

2seaoat



Trump will be responsible for things after June 1st. Most of the good things happening now, just like the bad things happening on President Obama's first six months were directly the responsibility of the prior administration. His ego is insatiable and his need to tell the truth is non existent, so his claims are fully expected.

Guest


Guest

Remember when Obama took credit for winning the Iraq war?


No... I didn't think so.

knothead

knothead

PkrBum wrote:Remember when Obama took credit for winning the Iraq war?


No... I didn't think so.

Sooooo . . . . yeah team??

2seaoat



Remember when Obama took credit for winning the Iraq war?


No... I didn't think so.


Nope.....if you need to lie about things, go ahead, but you cannot produce one quote from President Obama where he said he won the Iraq war. First, you use terms which he would NEVER use. Second, the Iraq invasion and occupation could NEVER be won. We lost and the Iraqi people lost the second we wrongfully invaded that country. All President Obama will get credit for is getting 90% of our troops out of that quagmire......he did NOT successfully get us out of that wrongful invasion as innocent civilians are still being slaughtered by President Bush's mistake to invade Iraq. President Obama's actions seldom had to be puffed......they spoke for themselves.

Guest


Guest

It's strange that you can contort over backwards to give him an out... but you can't understand plain English... purposefully. You're a good little comrade... and very useful... I'll give you that.

"We knew this day would come. We've known it for some time. But still there is something profound about the end of a war that has lasted so long. It's harder to end a war than begin one. Everything that American troops have done in Iraq - all the fighting, all the dying, the bleeding and the building and the training and the partnering, all of it has landed to this moment of success."

Guest


Guest

Of course... the message sent out through the admin was even more braggadocious...




Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

PkrBum. ..please do not feed the donkeys with facts.

Guest


Guest

PkrBum wrote:Remember when Obama took credit for winning the Iraq war?


No... I didn't think so.

He never took created for that. But I remember him taking a well earned credit for killing Osama Bin Laden.

Trump has a 70% lie rate.

Guest


Guest

Joanimaroni wrote:PkrBum. ..please do not feed the donkeys with facts.

It's as if they lived through an alternative history... lol.

Telstar

Telstar

panhandler wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Remember when Obama took credit for winning the Iraq war?


No... I didn't think so.

He never took created for that.  But I remember him taking a well earned credit for killing Osama Bin Laden.

Trump has a 70% lie rate.  





Yes when the previous lame republican asshat never really could accomplish the mission.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes credit he hasn't earned Obama_10

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

PkrBum wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:PkrBum. ..please do not feed the donkeys with facts.

It's as if they lived through an alternative history... lol.

Selective memory.....plus they really like to rewrite history so it suits them.

The pettiness they have exhibited throughout the election is nothing short of shameful and pathetic. Last night the democrats embarrassed their party. The silly childish actions of some was middle-school behaviour. Giving a thumbs down while giggling....good grief. 

Failure to support the widow and the ultimate sacrifice of her husband, Ryan Owens, was unbelievable and sickening...yet we are the deplorables! 

Hillary's comment certainly didn't help her.

Telstar

Telstar

You would think at least one Dem would have the courage to stand up and shout YOU LIE! at the orange faced, 1%, pussy grabbing, pile of manure.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Middle school behaviour.....as usual.

Telstar

Telstar

We are not amused.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes credit he hasn't earned Queen_10

Sal

Sal

Joanimaroni wrote:
Failure to support the widow and the ultimate sacrifice of her husband, Ryan Owens, was unbelievable and sickening...yet we are the deplorables! 

That's just a fucking lie.

And, Trump was covering up for his own mistake with the tears of a war widow, nothing less.

You're gawd damned right, it's deplorable.

Guest


Guest

Oh no... the irrelevant think the relevant are deplorable. Somebody hug those poor snowflakes... lol.

Telstar

Telstar

PkrBum wrote:Oh no... the irrelevant think the relevant are deplorable. Somebody hug those poor snowflakes... lol.





LOL the war cry of the deplorable right.

knothead

knothead

Joanimaroni wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:PkrBum. ..please do not feed the donkeys with facts.

It's as if they lived through an alternative history... lol.

Selective memory.....plus they really like to rewrite history so it suits them.

The pettiness they have exhibited throughout the election is nothing short of shameful and pathetic. Last night the democrats embarrassed their party. The silly childish actions of some was middle-school behaviour. Giving a thumbs down while giggling....good grief. 

Failure to support the widow and the ultimate sacrifice of her husband, Ryan Owens, was unbelievable and sickening...yet we are the deplorables! 

Hillary's comment certainly didn't help her.

America has NEVER been so ashamed of a newly elected President. His behavior before, during and after the campaign was nothing short of shameful . . . . . your party ate it up. Yes it is not irrational to call his supporters deplorable but a more succinct term would have been irrational and irresponsible. This guy is not deserving to polish Obama's shoes let alone occupy the Oval Office. Hope you are proud!

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

knothead wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:PkrBum. ..please do not feed the donkeys with facts.

It's as if they lived through an alternative history... lol.

Selective memory.....plus they really like to rewrite history so it suits them.

The pettiness they have exhibited throughout the election is nothing short of shameful and pathetic. Last night the democrats embarrassed their party. The silly childish actions of some was middle-school behaviour. Giving a thumbs down while giggling....good grief. 

Failure to support the widow and the ultimate sacrifice of her husband, Ryan Owens, was unbelievable and sickening...yet we are the deplorables! 

Hillary's comment certainly didn't help her.

America has NEVER been so ashamed of a newly elected President.  His behavior before, during and after the campaign was nothing short of shameful . . . . . your party ate it up. Yes it is not irrational to call his supporters deplorable but a more succinct term would have been irrational and irresponsible.  This guy is not deserving to polish Obama's shoes let alone occupy the Oval Office.  Hope you are proud!  


America?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
Failure to support the widow and the ultimate sacrifice of her husband, Ryan Owens, was unbelievable and sickening...yet we are the deplorables! 

That's just a fucking lie.

And, Trump was covering up for his own mistake with the tears of a war widow, nothing less.

You're gawd damned right, it's deplorable.


What is a lie?

Guest


Guest

Oh no... an irrelevant snowflake is ashamed. Alert the media..!!

knothead

knothead

Joanimaroni wrote:
knothead wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:PkrBum. ..please do not feed the donkeys with facts.

It's as if they lived through an alternative history... lol.

Selective memory.....plus they really like to rewrite history so it suits them.

The pettiness they have exhibited throughout the election is nothing short of shameful and pathetic. Last night the democrats embarrassed their party. The silly childish actions of some was middle-school behaviour. Giving a thumbs down while giggling....good grief. 

Failure to support the widow and the ultimate sacrifice of her husband, Ryan Owens, was unbelievable and sickening...yet we are the deplorables! 

Hillary's comment certainly didn't help her.

America has NEVER been so ashamed of a newly elected President.  His behavior before, during and after the campaign was nothing short of shameful . . . . . your party ate it up. Yes it is not irrational to call his supporters deplorable but a more succinct term would have been irrational and irresponsible.  This guy is not deserving to polish Obama's shoes let alone occupy the Oval Office.  Hope you are proud!  


America?

Yes joani . . . AMERICA IS ASHAMED. When countries have debate in their Parliaments about whether or not they even want this wannabe in their country . . . . oh yes this is a dark time for our nation and in so many ways but hey enjoy it!

24AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes credit he hasn't earned Empty 6 3/1/2017, 5:58 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

knothead wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
knothead wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:PkrBum. ..please do not feed the donkeys with facts.

It's as if they lived through an alternative history... lol.

Selective memory.....plus they really like to rewrite history so it suits them.

The pettiness they have exhibited throughout the election is nothing short of shameful and pathetic. Last night the democrats embarrassed their party. The silly childish actions of some was middle-school behaviour. Giving a thumbs down while giggling....good grief. 

Failure to support the widow and the ultimate sacrifice of her husband, Ryan Owens, was unbelievable and sickening...yet we are the deplorables! 

Hillary's comment certainly didn't help her.

America has NEVER been so ashamed of a newly elected President.  His behavior before, during and after the campaign was nothing short of shameful . . . . . your party ate it up. Yes it is not irrational to call his supporters deplorable but a more succinct term would have been irrational and irresponsible.  This guy is not deserving to polish Obama's shoes let alone occupy the Oval Office.  Hope you are proud!  


America?

Yes joani . . . AMERICA IS ASHAMED. When countries have debate in their Parliaments about whether or not they even want this wannabe in their country . . . . oh yes this is a dark time for our nation and in so many ways but hey enjoy it!



I didn't realize you speak for all Americans.

Telstar

Telstar

Joanimaroni wrote:
knothead wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
knothead wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:PkrBum. ..please do not feed the donkeys with facts.

It's as if they lived through an alternative history... lol.

Selective memory.....plus they really like to rewrite history so it suits them.

The pettiness they have exhibited throughout the election is nothing short of shameful and pathetic. Last night the democrats embarrassed their party. The silly childish actions of some was middle-school behaviour. Giving a thumbs down while giggling....good grief. 

Failure to support the widow and the ultimate sacrifice of her husband, Ryan Owens, was unbelievable and sickening...yet we are the deplorables! 

Hillary's comment certainly didn't help her.

America has NEVER been so ashamed of a newly elected President.  His behavior before, during and after the campaign was nothing short of shameful . . . . . your party ate it up. Yes it is not irrational to call his supporters deplorable but a more succinct term would have been irrational and irresponsible.  This guy is not deserving to polish Obama's shoes let alone occupy the Oval Office.  Hope you are proud!  


America?

Yes joani . . . AMERICA IS ASHAMED. When countries have debate in their Parliaments about whether or not they even want this wannabe in their country . . . . oh yes this is a dark time for our nation and in so many ways but hey enjoy it!



I didn't realize you speak for all Americans.





Obviously you only speak for real Americans not fake #45 supporting unAmericans.

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