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This proves that Mrs Clinton is being treated unfairly

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RealLindaL
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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

She's now explained the email thing. The whole thing happened because according to her no one told her the letter "C" meant Classified. It's not her fault.

2seaoat



There is a requirement that the classification of documents requires the designation in the header of an email. The emails which had the c in the documents as disclosed by the FBI director failed to put the classifications in the headings.......she is setting up the idiots.......Please show us an email where the proper header was then emailed by Clinton to another third person with the intent to disclose classified information to that third person.......as the FBI director said there is no case.....done.....over......small c.....lack of headers......and a big who cares.......and when this election is over, this issue will disappear.

RealLindaL



Actually "C" means "Confidential," one of the several levels of classification.

Still, I'll admit I'm very disappointed in the way Clinton has been handling all this. I hope to hell she doesn't hand the election to Trump on a silver platter. I may not like her all that much, but Trump positively terrifies me.

Sal

Sal

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

dumpcare



RealLindaL wrote:Actually "C" means "Confidential," one of the several levels of classification.

Still, I'll admit I'm very disappointed in the way Clinton has been handling all this.  I hope to hell she doesn't hand the election to Trump on a silver platter.  I may not like her all that much, but Trump positively terrifies me.

Confidential was the lowest classification when I was in the military.Almost everyone looked at it.

dumpcare



Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

Didn't even have to read it, I believe she has made a lot of mistakes and trusting too many under her with out checking on them but I don't believe she is dishonest. I believe Bush was honest but also trusted his adviser's to do the right thing.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

ppaca wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

Didn't even have to read it, I believe she has made a lot of mistakes and trusting too many under her with out checking on them but I don't believe she is dishonest. I believe Bush was honest but also trusted his adviser's to do the right thing.

Read this book and you will never think that way again.

This proves that Mrs Clinton is being treated unfairly Familysecrets-200x300

RealLindaL



Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

This was written at the end of March. I'd be interested in Abramson's thoughts/comments following the release of the FBI's notes. Am betting she may be feeling the same disappointment I and others are.

Sal

Sal

RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

This was written at the end of March.  I'd be interested in Abramson's thoughts/comments following the release of the FBI's notes.   Am betting she may be feeling the same disappointment I and others are.

Why?

The answers she gave law enforcement mirror her public statements.

She can't recall details about specific work emails from years ago or the technicalities of how her server operated?

Oh my ...

2seaoat



She can't recall details about specific work emails from years ago or the technicalities of how her server operated?


yea.....like I was disappointed when Linda called me a liar that she had self outed herself......I wrote it off as forgetting....not some conscious lie she posted, but if anyone of us after 20 years had been attacked for political purposes on our honesty......then the propaganda worked.....and seeds of doubt are planted. Hillary has done nothing wrong.....she has NOT lied......she is a busy woman with a busy schedule, and her feet are being held to a political fire which tries to make every error the woman has made into a criminal matter. She has proposed some very good substantive policies which have been consistent with her entire life. She has always had a tendency to slant the truth.....I will not deny that, and I have beat that dead horse that she slanted her resume in college and when she was the Arkansas first Lady that she was her high school President....she was not. Ambition and drive in a woman gets characterized as a lying bitch, while the same attributes in a man is that he is a strong leader and politician.....double standard over the last 20 years and I am sick of it.........and eight years ago I hammered her on the resume.

Telstar

Telstar

Floridatexan wrote:
ppaca wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

Didn't even have to read it, I believe she has made a lot of mistakes and trusting too many under her with out checking on them but I don't believe she is dishonest. I believe Bush was honest but also trusted his adviser's to do the right thing.

Read this book and you will never think that way again.

This proves that Mrs Clinton is being treated unfairly Familysecrets-200x300



Looks like an interesting read. Do you think that photo of Nixon, Jack Ruby and Prescott Bush was shopped or was it just some guy who looked a lot like a young Jack Ruby? Does the book mention the fact that Neil Bush the son of then Vice President George H W Bush had to cancel his dinner date with Scott Hinckley the older brother of John Hinckley Jr because John shot President Reagan the day before?

dumpcare



Sal wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

This was written at the end of March.  I'd be interested in Abramson's thoughts/comments following the release of the FBI's notes.   Am betting she may be feeling the same disappointment I and others are.

Why?

The answers she gave law enforcement mirror her public statements.

She can't recall details about specific work emails from years ago or the technicalities of how her server operated?

Oh my ...

I don't know anyone who remembers what is in an email even last week unless they saved a copy or the receiver replys. Then to want someone to remember what they wrote years ago, give me a break.

Telstar

Telstar

2seaoat wrote:She can't recall details about specific work emails from years ago or the technicalities of how her server operated?


yea.....like I was disappointed when Linda called me a liar that she had self outed herself......I wrote it off as forgetting....not some conscious lie she posted, but if anyone of us after 20 years had been attacked for political purposes on our honesty......then the propaganda worked.....and seeds of doubt are planted.   Hillary has done nothing wrong.....she has NOT lied......she is a busy woman with a busy schedule, and her feet are being held to a political fire which tries to make every error the woman has made into a criminal matter.   She has proposed some very good substantive policies which have been consistent with her entire life.   She has always had a tendency to slant the truth.....I will not deny that, and I have beat that dead horse that she slanted her resume in college and when she was the Arkansas first Lady that she was her high school President....she was not.   Ambition and drive in a woman gets characterized as a lying bitch, while the same attributes in a man is that he is a strong leader and politician.....double standard over the last 20 years and I am sick of it.........and eight years ago I hammered her on the resume.


They will always find something about Hillary. If not the emails then they will go back to Benghazi. If not Benghazi then they will dig up Vince Foster. Lucky for Hillary that she is going against Trump because the whole world knows Trump enjoys bashing women except for the Russian immigrant he is married to or the daughter he wants to bang.

dumpcare



Hell and end it may have been Gates call on Bengazi. DOD if I am not mistaken was responsible to call in help. We have had ongoing war on terrorism and I have always looked at it as a casualty of war and nothing else. You go to those country's at your own risk, foreign service or otherwise.

RealLindaL



ppaca wrote:
Sal wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

This was written at the end of March.  I'd be interested in Abramson's thoughts/comments following the release of the FBI's notes.   Am betting she may be feeling the same disappointment I and others are.

Why?

The answers she gave law enforcement mirror her public statements.

She can't recall details about specific work emails from years ago or the technicalities of how her server operated?

Oh my ...

I don't know anyone who remembers what is in an email even last week unless they saved a copy or the receiver replys. Then to want someone to remember what they wrote years ago, give me a break.

Sorry.  For me it was mostly her saying she couldn't recall being briefed on how to handle classified information, and that, for instance, she didn't even know what "C" meant.  For me, that's all beyond belief.   If I'm hearing that wrong, feel free to correct me.

But as a friendly independent I don't appreciate being sarcastically dumped on for having honest concerns about Hillary.  I trust my own judgement of people and I've never, ever been entirely comfortable with her level of forthrightness (or lack of same).  This does NOT change my vote - it will be for her, but I'll be among countless Americans voting against Trump as much as for Clinton.

So bite me.

I'm off to the beach to forget this crapola.  Y'all knock yourselves out.

Telstar

Telstar

RealLindaL wrote:
ppaca wrote:
Sal wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

This was written at the end of March.  I'd be interested in Abramson's thoughts/comments following the release of the FBI's notes.   Am betting she may be feeling the same disappointment I and others are.

Why?

The answers she gave law enforcement mirror her public statements.

She can't recall details about specific work emails from years ago or the technicalities of how her server operated?

Oh my ...

I don't know anyone who remembers what is in an email even last week unless they saved a copy or the receiver replys. Then to want someone to remember what they wrote years ago, give me a break.

Sorry.  For me it was mostly her saying she couldn't recall being briefed on how to handle classified information, and that, for instance, she didn't even know what "C" meant.  For me, that's all beyond belief.   If I'm hearing that wrong, feel free to correct me.

But as a friendly independent I don't appreciate being sarcastically dumped on for having honest concerns about Hillary.  I trust my own judgement of people and I've never, ever been entirely comfortable with her level of forthrightness (or lack of same).  This does NOT change my vote - it will be for her, but I'll be among countless Americans voting against Trump as much as for Clinton.

So bite me.

I'm off to the beach to forget this crapola.  Y'all knock yourselves out.


No problem with that Linda. Countless Americans feel that a vote against Trump is a vote for America, real America.

Sal

Sal

RealLindaL wrote:
ppaca wrote:
Sal wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

This was written at the end of March.  I'd be interested in Abramson's thoughts/comments following the release of the FBI's notes.   Am betting she may be feeling the same disappointment I and others are.

Why?

The answers she gave law enforcement mirror her public statements.

She can't recall details about specific work emails from years ago or the technicalities of how her server operated?

Oh my ...

I don't know anyone who remembers what is in an email even last week unless they saved a copy or the receiver replys. Then to want someone to remember what they wrote years ago, give me a break.

Sorry.  For me it was mostly her saying she couldn't recall being briefed on how to handle classified information, and that, for instance, she didn't even know what "C" meant.  For me, that's all beyond belief.   If I'm hearing that wrong, feel free to correct me.

But as a friendly independent I don't appreciate being sarcastically dumped on for having honest concerns about Hillary.  I trust my own judgement of people and I've never, ever been entirely comfortable with her level of forthrightness (or lack of same).  This does NOT change my vote - it will be for her, but I'll be among countless Americans voting against Trump as much as for Clinton.

So bite me.

I'm off to the beach to forget this crapola.  Y'all knock yourselves out.

I'm not sure how you could possibly construe anything you've quoted here as you're being "dumped on".

And, my understanding is that she said she didn't pay attention to different levels of classification, instead treating ALL classified info seriously regardless of level.

Seems like a pretty solid policy to me.

2seaoat



for instance, she didn't even know what "C" meant.

That would be the truth. A classified document which if the media was fair in its coverage of the hearings and the FBI testimony requires a heading declaring that the email is in fact classified. If in the body of the email contains the C, she is being completely honest because the FBI director acknowledged that emails were sent improperly concerning them being designated as Classified. As Rob Riener said on Politically correct that out of the thousands of emails there was only ONE email which had the proper heading designating that it was classified which was in fact relayed. Thirty five thousand emails and with no intent to deceive, The FBI clearly states that her handling of classifed materials was NOT criminal. Hillary has admitted in hindsight the use of the Private server should have been avoided, and was a mistake.....however......NOTHING is illegal as some posters tried to do for half a year with the use of a private server. This hate for Trump cannot overshadow how easily reasonable people can be manipulated by propaganda as if any of these new revelations are different than the FBI director's testimony which happened a month ago. Hillary Clinton has not lied.....she has not broken the law, yet they keep refrying the beans and sadly they are edible to some the more times they are refried.

Telstar

Telstar

2seaoat wrote:for instance, she didn't even know what "C" meant.

That would be the truth.  A classified document which if the media was fair in its coverage of the hearings and the FBI testimony requires a heading declaring that the email is in fact classified.   If in the body of the email contains the C, she is being completely honest because the FBI director acknowledged that emails were sent improperly concerning them being designated as Classified.   As Rob Riener said on Politically correct that out of the thousands of emails there was only ONE email which had the proper heading designating that it was classified which was in fact relayed.    Thirty five thousand emails and with no intent to deceive, The FBI clearly states that her handling of classifed materials was NOT criminal.   Hillary has admitted in hindsight the use of the Private server should have been avoided, and was a mistake.....however......NOTHING is illegal as some posters tried to do for half a year with the use of a private server.   This hate for Trump cannot overshadow how easily reasonable people can be manipulated by propaganda as if any of these new revelations are different than the FBI director's testimony which happened a month ago.  Hillary Clinton has not lied.....she has not broken the law, yet they keep refrying the beans and sadly they are edible to some the more times they are refried.



That's okay,when GLORIOUS LEADER TRUMP takes command and builds his wall, all the beans will be gone.

2seaoat



all the beans will be gone.


No....that would be the hard Trump.......as his ex wife argues.......we now have the soft Trump.....the one who will take the appropriate actions.

20 years of Hillary being investigated and nothing, and the FBI gives detailed testimony and folks do not even bother to pay attention, and think the refried beans are something new...........no wonder Hitler was able to fool the German people.........these propaganda techniques are time tested and effective.

Telstar

Telstar

2seaoat wrote:all the beans will be gone.


No....that would be the hard Trump.......as his ex wife argues.......we now have the soft Trump.....the one who will take the appropriate actions.

20 years of Hillary being investigated and nothing, and the FBI gives detailed testimony and folks do not even bother to pay attention, and think the refried beans are something new...........no wonder Hitler was able to fool the German people.........these propaganda techniques are time tested and effective.


Only with the useful idiots, AKA Trump supporters.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Telstar wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
ppaca wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

Didn't even have to read it, I believe she has made a lot of mistakes and trusting too many under her with out checking on them but I don't believe she is dishonest. I believe Bush was honest but also trusted his adviser's to do the right thing.

Read this book and you will never think that way again.

This proves that Mrs Clinton is being treated unfairly Familysecrets-200x300



Looks like an interesting read. Do you think that photo of Nixon, Jack Ruby and Prescott Bush was shopped or was it just some guy who looked a lot like a young Jack Ruby? Does the book mention the fact that Neil Bush the son of then Vice President George H W Bush had to cancel his dinner date with Scott Hinckley the older brother of John Hinckley Jr because John shot President Reagan the day before?

I probably read this in 2009. It is exhaustively researched and detailed. I'm sure the Hinckley connection is there. It's no secret that Prescott Bush supported Nixon...I barely remember what Jack Ruby looked like...but I don't think this is photoshopped:

This proves that Mrs Clinton is being treated unfairly Hqdefault

Here's a link to the author's page:

http://whowhatwhy.org/2014/11/23/radiowho-russ-baker-51st-anniversary-jfks-assassination/

(audio and links to chapters re JFK)

2seaoat



Only with the useful idiots, AKA Trump supporters.


The polls indicate otherwise. Independents and Democrats also have been brainwashed over twenty years to believe that Hillary is dishonest and a liar. Her traits in a man would be called a strong leader and politician. In a woman for 20 years the narrative is she is a lying bitch, and sadly if you keep throwing mud on the wall, even the most rational and informed people begin to think that where there is smoke.....there is fire. It is proven propaganda. It was effective in the 1930s and it certainly has been working now for almost thirty years..........At some point this fallow argument that the choice is between two bad candidates has to stop. Hillary Clinton is an amazing woman who has changed the game for my granddaughters, and the truth be known my total disrespect for Hillary twenty years ago was mostly an immature male fear of an accomplished and strong woman. I now celebrate her success and tell the propagandist to go F themselves. It is not much different than what has been done to President Obama, but it arises from that same pool of white males feeling threatened......

Telstar

Telstar

Floridatexan wrote:
Telstar wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
ppaca wrote:
Sal wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

Didn't even have to read it, I believe she has made a lot of mistakes and trusting too many under her with out checking on them but I don't believe she is dishonest. I believe Bush was honest but also trusted his adviser's to do the right thing.

Read this book and you will never think that way again.

This proves that Mrs Clinton is being treated unfairly Familysecrets-200x300



Looks like an interesting read. Do you think that photo of Nixon, Jack Ruby and Prescott Bush was shopped or was it just some guy who looked a lot like a young Jack Ruby? Does the book mention the fact that Neil Bush the son of then Vice President George H W Bush had to cancel his dinner date with Scott Hinckley the older brother of John Hinckley Jr because John shot President Reagan the day before?

I probably read this in 2009.  It is exhaustively researched and detailed.  I'm sure the Hinckley connection is there.  It's no secret that Prescott Bush supported Nixon...I barely remember what Jack Ruby looked like...but I don't think this is photoshopped:

This proves that Mrs Clinton is being treated unfairly Hqdefault

Here's a link to the author's page:

http://whowhatwhy.org/2014/11/23/radiowho-russ-baker-51st-anniversary-jfks-assassination/

(audio and links to chapters re JFK)




In 1982 Nixon told his former aide and confidante (Roger Stone), “The damn thing is, I knew this Jack Ruby. Murray (Chotiner) brought him to me in 1947, said he was one of 'Johnson's boys' and that LBJ wanted us to hire him as an informant to the Committee. We did.”

Yes that is Donald Trump's Roger Stone yet Trump pretends to be an outsider and useful idiots still support Trump. LOL

Guest


Guest

Bob wrote:She's now explained the email thing.  The whole thing happened because according to her no one told her the letter "C" meant Classified.  It's not her fault.

You and everyone who believes that are dumber than a bag of hammers

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