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Salinsky wrote:If Donald Trump himself has not talked you into a final decision of who to vote for in this election, then you are either not listening or you are an idiot.
There is no third option.
ppaca wrote:Surely you jest Bob to get Sal and Oat riled up.
RealLindaL wrote:Losin' it for you on this one, Bob. You don't have to wait for Trump to ruin things before you judge that he's likely to ruin things, for Pete's sake. You're playing a crap game with the nation at stake. Please reconsider the seriousness of this election and of your vote in it.
I just started to type a whole bunch of negative descriptors about Trump but the thing is, Bob, you KNOW all this about the man; I don't have to tell you. You KNOW.
Not that it will likely matter to you or anyone else, but I have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.
There's far too much at stake here, to put this kind of man at the helm.
RealLindaL wrote: have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.
Bob wrote:ppaca wrote:Surely you jest Bob to get Sal and Oat riled up.
Well that's always part of it. lol
But no, as crazy as it probably is, I "gots to know".
Bob wrote:RealLindaL wrote:Losin' it for you on this one, Bob. You don't have to wait for Trump to ruin things before you judge that he's likely to ruin things, for Pete's sake. You're playing a crap game with the nation at stake. Please reconsider the seriousness of this election and of your vote in it.
I just started to type a whole bunch of negative descriptors about Trump but the thing is, Bob, you KNOW all this about the man; I don't have to tell you. You KNOW.
Not that it will likely matter to you or anyone else, but I have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.
There's far too much at stake here, to put this kind of man at the helm.
I'm not totally convinced Trump will fail in the job, Linda. I know that sounds crazy to many of you, but as I've said before, there is one thing we can count on with Trump. He is driven to succeed. And I think he will do everything humanly possible to avoid failure. That would destroy a personality like his.
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ppaca wrote:
Oh you better take the Bernie sign then and replace it. lol
ppaca wrote:Bob wrote: as I've said before, there is one thing we can count on with Trump. He is driven to succeed. And I think he will do everything humanly possible to avoid failure. That would destroy a personality like his.
It hasn't destroyed his personality yet, he has failed in a good percentage of his business endeavors.
Bob wrote:RealLindaL wrote:Losin' it for you on this one, Bob. You don't have to wait for Trump to ruin things before you judge that he's likely to ruin things, for Pete's sake. You're playing a crap game with the nation at stake. Please reconsider the seriousness of this election and of your vote in it.
I just started to type a whole bunch of negative descriptors about Trump but the thing is, Bob, you KNOW all this about the man; I don't have to tell you. You KNOW.
Not that it will likely matter to you or anyone else, but I have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.
There's far too much at stake here, to put this kind of man at the helm.
I'm not totally convinced Trump will fail in the job, Linda. I know that sounds crazy to many of you, but as I've said before, there is one thing we can count on with Trump. He is driven to succeed. And I think he will do everything humanly possible to avoid failure. That would destroy a personality like his.
othershoe1030 wrote: If he has a choice between a decision to help the country and a decision to help himself or his business I think he would choose to help himself and kick the country to the curb.
Bob wrote:One thing does puzzle me though. Here I am a progressive saying I'm voting for Trump and markle isn't even helping me on this. I think that must mean even the right-wingers are a little skeptical about Trump.
Bob wrote:othershoe1030 wrote: If he has a choice between a decision to help the country and a decision to help himself or his business I think he would choose to help himself and kick the country to the curb.
I disagree. His interest in his business has taken a backseat to his wanting to be President. I really don't think he wants to be President to help his business because he doesn't care about that. He wants to succeed as the President and success as President means approval ratings. I think he really will try to have high approval ratings because that's the only thing his ego puts any value on.
So I'm not really skeptical of his motives. The question is whether or not he can accomplish his goal.
othershoe1030 wrote:Bob wrote:othershoe1030 wrote: If he has a choice between a decision to help the country and a decision to help himself or his business I think he would choose to help himself and kick the country to the curb.
I disagree. His interest in his business has taken a backseat to his wanting to be President. I really don't think he wants to be President to help his business because he doesn't care about that. He wants to succeed as the President and success as President means approval ratings. I think he really will try to have high approval ratings because that's the only thing his ego puts any value on.
So I'm not really skeptical of his motives. The question is whether or not he can accomplish his goal.
So he's moved his factories to the US? I hadn't heard!
He talks a good line (to some people's way of thinking) but his actions demonstrate otherwise.
Certainly, if elected he would covet high approval ratings but he doesn't even know how the government works. If he gets into a tough situation he would have to have some ability to deal with it. He doesn't know what he doesn't know. When asked who he listened to for foreign policy information he said he basically listened to himself. Really? I wonder how the Joint Chiefs are going to deal with that? Sorry, no morning briefing, Donald is talking to himself, UGH.
Maybe if he is totally dependent on ratings the people could run government policy by voting on issues on FaceBook or something like that, hey, there's an idea! That would be like a direct democracy. We could all just log on and run the country from our computers. I wonder how that would go?
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