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Guess who talked me into a final decision of who to vote for in the election.

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RealLindaL
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Hospital Bob


"Between two evils,  I always pick the one I haven't tried before"


--  Mae West

Sal

Sal

If Donald Trump himself has not talked you into a final decision of who to vote for in this election, then you are either not listening or you are an idiot.

There is no third option.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Salinsky wrote:If Donald Trump himself has not talked you into a final decision of who to vote for in this election, then you are either not listening or you are an idiot.

There is no third option.

No it was exactly what I posted. I'm voting for Trump because of what Mae West said.

And for another reason. The same one as expressed in this legendary movie line...



I fully acknowedge that Trump may turn out to be another Mussolini or worse.
But I don't know that's what will happen. And if Trump doesn't win the election I will never know which. He said it best, "I got's to know".

Sal

Sal

I get it, Bob.

You're an idiot.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Sal, you're a smart guy. But you just gave the same kind of response Trump would have given. Exactly the same. lol

RealLindaL



Losin' it for you on this one, Bob.   You don't have to wait for Trump to ruin things before you judge that he's likely to ruin things, for Pete's sake.  You're playing a crap game with the nation at stake.  Please reconsider the seriousness of this election and of your vote in it.

I just started to type a whole bunch of negative descriptors about Trump but the thing is, Bob, you KNOW all this about the man; I don't have to tell you.  You KNOW.

Not that it will likely matter to you or anyone else, but I have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.

There's far too much at stake here, to put this kind of man at the helm.

dumpcare



Surely you jest Bob to get Sal and Oat riled up.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

ppaca wrote:Surely you jest Bob to get Sal and Oat riled up.

Well that's always part of it. lol
But no, as crazy as it probably is, I "gots to know".

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

RealLindaL wrote:Losin' it for you on this one, Bob.   You don't have to wait for Trump to ruin things before you judge that he's likely to ruin things, for Pete's sake.  You're playing a crap game with the nation at stake.  Please reconsider the seriousness of this election and of your vote in it.

I just started to type a whole bunch of negative descriptors about Trump but the thing is, Bob, you KNOW all this about the man; I don't have to tell you.  You KNOW.

Not that it will likely matter to you or anyone else, but I have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.

There's far too much at stake here, to put this kind of man at the helm.

I'm not totally convinced Trump will fail in the job, Linda. I know that sounds crazy to many of you, but as I've said before, there is one thing we can count on with Trump. He is driven to succeed. And I think he will do everything humanly possible to avoid failure. That would destroy a personality like his.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

RealLindaL wrote: have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.

And everyone voting for Trump feels exactly the same way about anyone voting for Hillary.

The only thing that we all know for certain,  is that our country is now reduced to two factions who absolutely despise the ideas of the other.
And as long as that remains to be true,  this country will stay further in decline and it wouldn't matter if Jesus was the President.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Mae West was a comedienne, Bob. Loved her, but she has nothing to do with the election of 2016. She was wonderful, BTW:



Here's your quote, in the midst of a whole slew of others:



Forget using a toaster for your avatar. You should use a WAFFLE IRON, like this one (It was recalled.):

Guess who talked me into a final decision of who to vote for in the election. 99072

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Bob wrote:
ppaca wrote:Surely you jest Bob to get Sal and Oat riled up.

Well that's always part of it.  lol
But no,  as crazy as it probably is,  I "gots to know".

Guess who talked me into a final decision of who to vote for in the election. 341039







Guess who talked me into a final decision of who to vote for in the election. Let+it+all+hang+out

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

lol

dumpcare



Bob wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:Losin' it for you on this one, Bob.   You don't have to wait for Trump to ruin things before you judge that he's likely to ruin things, for Pete's sake.  You're playing a crap game with the nation at stake.  Please reconsider the seriousness of this election and of your vote in it.

I just started to type a whole bunch of negative descriptors about Trump but the thing is, Bob, you KNOW all this about the man; I don't have to tell you.  You KNOW.

Not that it will likely matter to you or anyone else, but I have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.

There's far too much at stake here, to put this kind of man at the helm.

I'm not totally convinced Trump will fail in the job,  Linda.  I know that sounds crazy to many of you,  but as I've said before,  there is one thing we can count on with Trump.  He is driven to succeed.  And I think he will do everything humanly possible to avoid failure.  That would destroy a personality like his.  

It hasn't destroyed his personality yet, he has failed in a good percentage of his business endeavors.

Oh you better take the Bernie sign down then and replace it. lol



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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

ppaca wrote:
Oh you better take the Bernie sign then and replace it. lol

But in the interest of full disclosure,  the Bernie sign has always been either in the bushes or in the back yard alongside the Bush/Cheney in 04 sign.  lol
I never put political signs in the front yard. Those dirtbag politicians would have to pay me for that.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan




RealLindaL



ppaca wrote:
Bob wrote: as I've said before,  there is one thing we can count on with Trump.  He is driven to succeed.  And I think he will do everything humanly possible to avoid failure.  That would destroy a personality like his.  

It hasn't destroyed his personality yet, he has failed in a good percentage of his business endeavors.

Excellent
point, ppaca.   A narcissist like Trump may be totally incapable of recognizing failure, much less doing anything to correct his tendency to fail since it doesn't exist.  Remember how he prevaricated and denied and obfuscated early on, when speaking from Mar a Lago that first time, about the Trump steaks and magazines and just about every other business that absolutely had failed but he denied it?  And isn't that a marvelous recommendation for a person to lead the U.S. of A.?

Yes, sure, there are those who will say the same about Hillary's truthfulness (or lack of same).  So OK, if you have two liars -- one who is apparently pathological and the other who has deep experience in domestic and foreign affairs at the government level, with a tendency to deny guilt that's only about on a par with most other politicians -- NOT, apparently, 24 hour a day pathological lying -- would you really choose the nut case who surrounds himself with gold plated everything and air-headed women?

Please re-think, Bob.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Well I've still got a few more months before the vote. And anything could happen between then and now to make me either vote for Hillary or not vote at all.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Bob wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:Losin' it for you on this one, Bob.   You don't have to wait for Trump to ruin things before you judge that he's likely to ruin things, for Pete's sake.  You're playing a crap game with the nation at stake.  Please reconsider the seriousness of this election and of your vote in it.

I just started to type a whole bunch of negative descriptors about Trump but the thing is, Bob, you KNOW all this about the man; I don't have to tell you.  You KNOW.

Not that it will likely matter to you or anyone else, but I have to say that a person who can vote for Donald Trump is no one I could likely ever call friend. And I've never said that prior to the voting in any other presidential election I can recall.

There's far too much at stake here, to put this kind of man at the helm.

I'm not totally convinced Trump will fail in the job,  Linda.  I know that sounds crazy to many of you,  but as I've said before,  there is one thing we can count on with Trump.  He is driven to succeed.  And I think he will do everything humanly possible to avoid failure.  That would destroy a personality like his.  

Yes, he is very competitive and will do anything to win. He is Trump, the Donald. He is not the country. If he has a choice between a decision to help the country and a decision to help himself or his business I think he would choose to help himself and kick the country to the curb.

He preaches (sometimes) that the wants to bring jobs back to this country while at that very moment paying workers overseas to make his products...and this is something you want to see played out on a national scale? I don't think so.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

One thing does puzzle me though. Here I am a progressive saying I'm voting for Trump and markle isn't even helping me on this. I think that must mean even the right-wingers are a little skeptical about Trump.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Another thought on this idea of voting for Trump "just to see what would happen"...Many people in the UK did the same thing with their vote to leave the European Union. They said in later interviews that they didn't think it would pass (to leave) so they just wanted to voice their dissatisfaction with the way some things were going in the country, you know, let the politicians know they were not happy. Well, they woke up the next morning with the passage of the vote to leave, what a surprise! I don't want a Trump surprise at the end of this election! UGH!

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

othershoe1030 wrote: If he has a choice between a decision to help the country and a decision to help himself or his business I think he would choose to help himself and kick the country to the curb.

I disagree. His interest in his business has taken a backseat to his wanting to be President. I really don't think he wants to be President to help his business because he doesn't care about that. He wants to succeed as the President and success as President means approval ratings. I think he really will try to have high approval ratings because that's the only thing his ego puts any value on.
So I'm not really skeptical of his motives. The question is whether or not he can accomplish his goal.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Bob wrote:One thing does puzzle me though.  Here I am a progressive saying I'm voting for Trump and markle isn't even helping me on this.  I think that must mean even the right-wingers are a little skeptical about Trump.

Last I heard the RNC was planning on passing a new rule for this convention that basically let the delegates vote "their conscience" and not vote for Trump if he's done or said anything that they strongly disagreed with or that did not support the party platform.

Yes, for crying out loud Bob the head bananas in the Republican party have been falling all over themselves in disbelief that a crook, swindler and con man like Trump could likely be their candidate for the presidency this go-round. So Yes, I guess you could say that even right-wingers are a "little skeptical about Trump". LOL

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Bob wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote: If he has a choice between a decision to help the country and a decision to help himself or his business I think he would choose to help himself and kick the country to the curb.

I disagree.  His interest in his business has taken a backseat to his wanting to be President.  I really don't think he wants to be President to help his business because he doesn't care about that.  He wants to succeed as the President and success as President means approval ratings.  I think he really will try to have high approval ratings because that's the only thing his ego puts any value on.
So I'm not really skeptical of his motives.  The question is whether or not he can accomplish his goal.  

So he's moved his factories to the US? I hadn't heard!

He talks a good line (to some people's way of thinking) but his actions demonstrate otherwise.

Certainly, if elected he would covet high approval ratings but he doesn't even know how the government works. If he gets into a tough situation he would have to have some ability to deal with it. He doesn't know what he doesn't know. When asked who he listened to for foreign policy information he said he basically listened to himself. Really? I wonder how the Joint Chiefs are going to deal with that? Sorry, no morning briefing, Donald is talking to himself, UGH.

Maybe if he is totally dependent on ratings the people could run government policy by voting on issues on FaceBook or something like that, hey, there's an idea! That would be like a direct democracy. We could all just log on and run the country from our computers. I wonder how that would go?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

othershoe1030 wrote:
Bob wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote: If he has a choice between a decision to help the country and a decision to help himself or his business I think he would choose to help himself and kick the country to the curb.

I disagree.  His interest in his business has taken a backseat to his wanting to be President.  I really don't think he wants to be President to help his business because he doesn't care about that.  He wants to succeed as the President and success as President means approval ratings.  I think he really will try to have high approval ratings because that's the only thing his ego puts any value on.
So I'm not really skeptical of his motives.  The question is whether or not he can accomplish his goal.  

So he's moved his factories to the US? I hadn't heard!

He talks a good line (to some people's way of thinking) but his actions demonstrate otherwise.

Certainly, if elected he would covet high approval ratings but he doesn't even know how the government works. If he gets into a tough situation he would have to have some ability to deal with it. He doesn't know what he doesn't know. When asked who he listened to for foreign policy information he said he basically listened to himself. Really? I wonder how the Joint Chiefs are going to deal with that? Sorry, no morning briefing, Donald is talking to himself, UGH.

Maybe if he is totally dependent on ratings the people could run government policy by voting on issues on FaceBook or something like that, hey, there's an idea! That would be like a direct democracy. We could all just log on and run the country from our computers. I wonder how that would go?

You could be right. But I'm not convinced of it.

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