Trump says the system is rigged

2seaoat wrote:He is making it clear that if they take the nomination away from him, he will run a third party campaign.  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

2seaoat wrote:He is making it clear that if they take the nomination away from him, he will run a third party campaign. As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

2seaoat wrote:  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

Bob wrote:

2seaoat wrote:  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

I don't see any path for Trump to win the Presidency.  No one can win the Presidency when 75% of all women voters and an even greater percentage of hispanic voters will not vote for him.  Plus Clinton will get the lion's share of black voters as well.

Trump appeals to a segment of the electorate.  But only to a segment and that segment is not big enough to win the Presidency.

Bob wrote:

2seaoat wrote:  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

I don't see any path for Trump to win the Presidency.  No one can win the Presidency when 75% of all women voters and an even greater percentage of hispanic voters will not vote for him.  Plus Clinton will get the lion's share of black voters as well.

Trump appeals to a segment of the electorate.  But only to a segment and that segment is not big enough to win the Presidency.

Bob wrote:

2seaoat wrote:  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

I don't see any path for Trump to win the Presidency.  No one can win the Presidency when 75% of all women voters and an even greater percentage of hispanic voters will not vote for him.  Plus Clinton will get the lion's share of black voters as well.

Trump appeals to a segment of the electorate.  But only to a segment and that segment is not big enough to win the Presidency.

Telstar wrote:

Bob wrote:

2seaoat wrote:  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

I don't see any path for Trump to win the Presidency.  No one can win the Presidency when 75% of all women voters and an even greater percentage of hispanic voters will not vote for him.  Plus Clinton will get the lion's share of black voters as well.

Trump appeals to a segment of the electorate.  But only to a segment and that segment is not big enough to win the Presidency.

To put it mildly, Trump has a women problem. He may be attracting some Republican women voters, but according to the latest CNN poll, taken before the spat with Cruz over his wife, 73% of registered female voters in the United States had an unfavorable view of Trump.
Those results are consistent with a Reuters poll that found more than half of the women in this country hold a "very unfavorable" view of him. That's a steep hill to climb for Trump in a general election if he ends up the GOP nominee against Hillary Clinton.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/27/opinions/trumps-bizarre-war-on-women-opinion-setmayer/

What? wrote:

Telstar wrote:

Bob wrote:

2seaoat wrote:  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

I don't see any path for Trump to win the Presidency.  No one can win the Presidency when 75% of all women voters and an even greater percentage of hispanic voters will not vote for him.  Plus Clinton will get the lion's share of black voters as well.

Trump appeals to a segment of the electorate.  But only to a segment and that segment is not big enough to win the Presidency.

To put it mildly, Trump has a women problem. He may be attracting some Republican women voters, but according to the latest CNN poll, taken before the spat with Cruz over his wife, 73% of registered female voters in the United States had an unfavorable view of Trump.
Those results are consistent with a Reuters poll that found more than half of the women in this country hold a "very unfavorable" view of him. That's a steep hill to climb for Trump in a general election if he ends up the GOP nominee against Hillary Clinton.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/27/opinions/trumps-bizarre-war-on-women-opinion-setmayer/

A poll from Communist News Network. Valid much? Not so much.

What? wrote:

Bob wrote:

2seaoat wrote:  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

I don't see any path for Trump to win the Presidency.  No one can win the Presidency when 75% of all women voters and an even greater percentage of hispanic voters will not vote for him.  Plus Clinton will get the lion's share of black voters as well.

Trump appeals to a segment of the electorate.  But only to a segment and that segment is not big enough to win the Presidency.

75% of women voters? Which ones? The ones in your butt? You surely don't have anything to back that claim.

What? wrote: Communist News Network.

othershoe1030 wrote:Of course both nominating primaries and conventions are rigged in the sense that they are set up by and run by the parties so naturally the usual powers that be have a vested interest in having someone who supports their world view win the nomination.

What Trump is trying to do is to spin his higher number of delegates into evidence that he should be the nominee but, hey, if this were football and he was on the 5 yard line it still wouldn't be a touchdown. He is trying to convince people this nominating process is like an election rather than a matter of crossing the goal line.

If he goes it alone, obviously the Democrat would win since he'd split the GOP vote. However, and here's the very strange part...a reporter the other day said she had never heard so many undecided voters being torn between Trump or Bernie.

It makes sense to a certain extent though because those are both the "outsider" or "not business as usual" candidates so I can see where there would be a certain attraction among voters who think (in Bernie's case) that the government should work for all the people, not just the billionaires and in Trump's case, well perhaps for those who think the government needs to build that wall on the southern border or negotiate more effectively with China.

SheWrites wrote:Baby boomers had that communism brain washing course all through school.  Hard for some to lose.  I had a Vietnam war vet teaching the Americanism vs Communism class - a requisite course senior year to graduate.

Whew...it's taken time to shake some of the brainwashing but you can do it folks...you can do it.

2seaoat wrote:What brainwashing? Please elaborate.

I am interested in the same thing....what brainwashing?

2seaoat wrote:He is making it clear that if they take the nomination away from him, he will run a third party campaign.  As unpopular as Hillary and Cruz are.....he could win a third party campaign.

SheWrites wrote:Baby boomers had that communism brain washing course all through school.  Hard for some to lose.  I had a Vietnam war vet teaching the Americanism vs Communism class - a requisite course senior year to graduate.

Whew...it's taken time to shake some of the brainwashing but you can do it folks...you can do it.

Guest wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:Of course both nominating primaries and conventions are rigged in the sense that they are set up by and run by the parties so naturally the usual powers that be have a vested interest in having someone who supports their world view win the nomination.

What Trump is trying to do is to spin his higher number of delegates into evidence that he should be the nominee but, hey, if this were football and he was on the 5 yard line it still wouldn't be a touchdown. He is trying to convince people this nominating process is like an election rather than a matter of crossing the goal line.

If he goes it alone, obviously the Democrat would win since he'd split the GOP vote. However, and here's the very strange part...a reporter the other day said she had never heard so many undecided voters being torn between Trump or Bernie.

It makes sense to a certain extent though because those are both the "outsider" or "not business as usual" candidates so I can see where there would be a certain attraction among voters who think (in Bernie's case) that the government should work for all the people, not just the billionaires and in Trump's case, well perhaps for those who think the government needs to build that wall on the southern border or negotiate more effectively with China.

What makes Cruz delegates a touchdown then?

SheWrites wrote:

SheWrites wrote:Baby boomers had that communism brain washing course all through school.  Hard for some to lose.  I had a Vietnam war vet teaching the Americanism vs Communism class - a requisite course senior year to graduate.

Whew...it's taken time to shake some of the brainwashing but you can do it folks...you can do it.

Seaoat and FLTX...

Don't you feel that as a baby boomer we were force fed some things about America and in defense of America?  While I did not practice nuclear attack drills, my sister did in elementary school in the early 1960s. Why make kids think the Communist were going to bomb us?  As far as history tells me America has flown and dropped that payload.

I'm patriotic.  I love my America's foundation.  However, when everything is covered in the red, white, and blue isn't that brainwashing?  

I love my family.  I've lived a fairly conservative life (not speaking politics but just the way I do things - I'm not lavish) However, in the early 90s when I had small children there was a "brainwashing" set forth by Focus on the Family that all things had to be one man, one woman, 2.5 children, a cat, a dog, and a minivan.  

I am spiritual.  However, I had to walk away from brainwashing that is propagated in the pulpits of NW Florida.  Not all churches, mind you, but so many fundamental rules keeping churches.  

How has any of this moved us forward?  It has not.  We have all experienced the ultra conservative politics based on this brainwashing.  I, for one, have rejected it.  

Mind you I'm still conservative but I am free thinking.  So many fear leaving the brainwashing. It's legalistic bull crap and also politically splintering to the country.  

Who has brainwashed more - Russia or the USA?

Speak to most military retirees and you will hear the same mantra.  Listen to blue collar Joe speaking on the radio show that Bob listens to.  You hear the same mantra.  But in turn they will say there is a liberal mantra.  

I agree with Bob that you need to listen to how the folks in your community think.  I just don't have to listen to it over and over and over.  Put up a topic and you know what their response will be.  One track...brainwashed...it's their way or the highway.

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I am old enough to have practiced the bombing drills. It was something we were told was important. It was part of the brainwashing. I think this idea of American Exceptionalism has gone a bit far. Sure we are exceptional but so are many other countries. I think the purpose of this concept is to make us think we have a license to do basically whatever we want because we are the big dog on the playground. It does not encourage critical thinking about foreign policy or energy policy or food policy, etc. To me it pus up a shield in front of many realities that most Americans are unwilling to look at.