CBO: 2016 ObamaCare enrollment to fall short of projections by … 8 million Obamacare Continues to Collapse.

ppaca wrote:To top it off this article is correct from the email I received today from CMS.

Markle wrote:Obamacare continues to collapse.  Is that why lame duck President Obama is starting to say President George Bush was right?

CBO: 2016 ObamaCare enrollment to fall short of projections by … 8 million

TED AT 8:01 PM ON JANUARY 26, 2016 BY ED MORRISSEY

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Get ready to have expectations for ObamaCare managed downward … again. The Congressional Budget Office issued a new estimate for the next decade under the Affordable Care Act that lowers the enrollment projection by 40% in 2016. In fact, according to the CBO, next year’s enrollment is now expected to barely grow at all from 2015:

ObamaCare will enroll significantly fewer people than expected in 2016, ending the year with about 13 million customers, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said Monday.

The figure, which was included in an expansive budget report, is a decline of about 40 percent from last year’s enrollment prediction of about 20 million people.

The latest projections confirm the Obama administration’s previous assessment that fewer people are signing up as the marketplace closes in on its third enrollment season — the final one under President Obama.

[...]

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/26/cbo-2016-obamacare-enrollment-to-fall-short-of-projections-by-8-million/

CBO lowers estimated ObamaCare sign-ups by 40 percent

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/266949-cbo-lowers-forecast-for-obamacare-sign-ups-by-40-percent?elq_cid=1275946&x_id=

Markle wrote:You really need to wean yourself off your far left Socialist sites and branch out.  This email was just released with this latest flurry being released weekly.  Try to keep up.

The new report also underscores the challenges facing the incoming administration in reducing the uninsured rate after 2017. While the healthcare law has led to a historic low in the uninsured population, officials have struggled to further reduce that figure this year.

Many of the uninsured people who opt out of coverage on the exchanges are now expected to purchase insurance “directly from an insurer instead,” the CBO said.

Vikingwoman wrote:

ppaca wrote:To top it off this article is correct from the email I received today from CMS.

Isn't 13 million enough?

boards of FL wrote:

Markle wrote:Obamacare continues to collapse.  Is that why lame duck President Obama is starting to say President George Bush was right?

CBO: 2016 ObamaCare enrollment to fall short of projections by … 8 million

TED AT 8:01 PM ON JANUARY 26, 2016 BY ED MORRISSEY


Get ready to have expectations for ObamaCare managed downward … again. The Congressional Budget Office issued a new estimate for the next decade under the Affordable Care Act that lowers the enrollment projection by 40% in 2016. In fact, according to the CBO, next year’s enrollment is now expected to barely grow at all from 2015:

ObamaCare will enroll significantly fewer people than expected in 2016, ending the year with about 13 million customers, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said Monday.

The figure, which was included in an expansive budget report, is a decline of about 40 percent from last year’s enrollment prediction of about 20 million people.

The latest projections confirm the Obama administration’s previous assessment that fewer people are signing up as the marketplace closes in on its third enrollment season — the final one under President Obama.

[...]

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/26/cbo-2016-obamacare-enrollment-to-fall-short-of-projections-by-8-million/

CBO lowers estimated ObamaCare sign-ups by 40 percent

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/266949-cbo-lowers-forecast-for-obamacare-sign-ups-by-40-percent?elq_cid=1275946&x_id=

First of all, you can't exactly use thehill.com as a source anymore since this was your response to me the last time I used it as a source:

Markle wrote:You really need to wean yourself off your far left Socialist sites and branch out.  This email was just released with this latest flurry being released weekly.  Try to keep up.

So there's that.  But even if we put that aside for a second.  Let's actually read your article and see what it says.  

From the article:

The new report also underscores the challenges facing the incoming administration in reducing the uninsured rate after 2017. While the healthcare law has led to a historic low in the uninsured population, officials have struggled to further reduce that figure this year.

Read that, Markle.  The healthcare law has lead to a historic low in the uninsured population.  That is a success.

Next, why is the CBO estimating that less people will sign up in the exchanges?  Are they saying that less people in general will have health insurance?  No.  

From the article:

Many of the uninsured people who opt out of coverage on the exchanges are now expected to purchase insurance “directly from an insurer instead,” the CBO said.

Markle, all you have done here is irrefutably prove two things:  1)  You can't argue anything on merit, so you instead attack the messenger - claiming that everything that doesn't confirm your worldview is a "far left socialist site".  Oddly enough, here you are citing the very "far left socialist site" - thehill - that you attack when anyone else uses it.  2) You can't read.

Markle wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Markle wrote:Obamacare continues to collapse.  Is that why lame duck President Obama is starting to say President George Bush was right?

CBO: 2016 ObamaCare enrollment to fall short of projections by … 8 million

TED AT 8:01 PM ON JANUARY 26, 2016 BY ED MORRISSEY


Get ready to have expectations for ObamaCare managed downward … again. The Congressional Budget Office issued a new estimate for the next decade under the Affordable Care Act that lowers the enrollment projection by 40% in 2016. In fact, according to the CBO, next year’s enrollment is now expected to barely grow at all from 2015:

ObamaCare will enroll significantly fewer people than expected in 2016, ending the year with about 13 million customers, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said Monday.

The figure, which was included in an expansive budget report, is a decline of about 40 percent from last year’s enrollment prediction of about 20 million people.

The latest projections confirm the Obama administration’s previous assessment that fewer people are signing up as the marketplace closes in on its third enrollment season — the final one under President Obama.

[...]

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/26/cbo-2016-obamacare-enrollment-to-fall-short-of-projections-by-8-million/

CBO lowers estimated ObamaCare sign-ups by 40 percent

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/266949-cbo-lowers-forecast-for-obamacare-sign-ups-by-40-percent?elq_cid=1275946&x_id=

First of all, you can't exactly use thehill.com as a source anymore since this was your response to me the last time I used it as a source:

Markle wrote:You really need to wean yourself off your far left Socialist sites and branch out.  This email was just released with this latest flurry being released weekly.  Try to keep up.

So there's that.  But even if we put that aside for a second.  Let's actually read your article and see what it says.  

From the article:

The new report also underscores the challenges facing the incoming administration in reducing the uninsured rate after 2017. While the healthcare law has led to a historic low in the uninsured population, officials have struggled to further reduce that figure this year.

Read that, Markle.  The healthcare law has lead to a historic low in the uninsured population.  That is a success.

Next, why is the CBO estimating that less people will sign up in the exchanges?  Are they saying that less people in general will have health insurance?  No.  

From the article:

Many of the uninsured people who opt out of coverage on the exchanges are now expected to purchase insurance

“directly from an insurer instead,” the CBO said.

Markle, all you have done here is irrefutably prove two things:  1)  You can't argue anything on merit, so you instead attack the messenger - claiming that everything that doesn't confirm your worldview is a "far left socialist site".  Oddly enough, here you are citing the very "far left socialist site" - thehill - that you attack when anyone else uses it.  2) You can't read.

Thank you for another personal attack!

A miss of 40% is irrelevant to you and I understand why you would say such a thing.

Please see the above post for how that impacts the system.

Keep up the good work!

Many of the uninsured people who opt out of coverage on the exchanges are now expected to purchase insurance “directly from an insurer instead,” the CBO said.

boards of FL wrote:

Markle wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Markle wrote:Obamacare continues to collapse.  Is that why lame duck President Obama is starting to say President George Bush was right?

CBO: 2016 ObamaCare enrollment to fall short of projections by … 8 million

TED AT 8:01 PM ON JANUARY 26, 2016 BY ED MORRISSEY


Get ready to have expectations for ObamaCare managed downward … again. The Congressional Budget Office issued a new estimate for the next decade under the Affordable Care Act that lowers the enrollment projection by 40% in 2016. In fact, according to the CBO, next year’s enrollment is now expected to barely grow at all from 2015:

ObamaCare will enroll significantly fewer people than expected in 2016, ending the year with about 13 million customers, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said Monday.

The figure, which was included in an expansive budget report, is a decline of about 40 percent from last year’s enrollment prediction of about 20 million people.

The latest projections confirm the Obama administration’s previous assessment that fewer people are signing up as the marketplace closes in on its third enrollment season — the final one under President Obama.

[...]

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/26/cbo-2016-obamacare-enrollment-to-fall-short-of-projections-by-8-million/

CBO lowers estimated ObamaCare sign-ups by 40 percent

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/266949-cbo-lowers-forecast-for-obamacare-sign-ups-by-40-percent?elq_cid=1275946&x_id=

First of all, you can't exactly use thehill.com as a source anymore since this was your response to me the last time I used it as a source:

Markle wrote:You really need to wean yourself off your far left Socialist sites and branch out.  This email was just released with this latest flurry being released weekly.  Try to keep up.

So there's that.  But even if we put that aside for a second.  Let's actually read your article and see what it says.  

From the article:

The new report also underscores the challenges facing the incoming administration in reducing the uninsured rate after 2017. While the healthcare law has led to a historic low in the uninsured population, officials have struggled to further reduce that figure this year.

Read that, Markle.  The healthcare law has lead to a historic low in the uninsured population.  That is a success.

Next, why is the CBO estimating that less people will sign up in the exchanges?  Are they saying that less people in general will have health insurance?  No.  

From the article:

Many of the uninsured people who opt out of coverage on the exchanges are now expected to purchase insurance

“directly from an insurer instead,” the CBO said.

Markle, all you have done here is irrefutably prove two things:  1)  You can't argue anything on merit, so you instead attack the messenger - claiming that everything that doesn't confirm your worldview is a "far left socialist site".  Oddly enough, here you are citing the very "far left socialist site" - thehill - that you attack when anyone else uses it.  2) You can't read.

Thank you for another personal attack!

A miss of 40% is irrelevant to you and I understand why you would say such a thing.

Please see the above post for how that impacts the system.

Keep up the good work!

One more time for Markle.   I bolded and and increased the size of the key phrase there so that you won't miss it for a third time.

From your "far left socialist site":

Many of the uninsured people who opt out of coverage on the exchanges are now expected to purchase insurance “directly from an insurer instead,” the CBO said.

Markle wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Markle wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Markle wrote:Obamacare continues to collapse.  Is that why lame duck President Obama is starting to say President George Bush was right?

CBO: 2016 ObamaCare enrollment to fall short of projections by … 8 million

TED AT 8:01 PM ON JANUARY 26, 2016 BY ED MORRISSEY


Get ready to have expectations for ObamaCare managed downward … again. The Congressional Budget Office issued a new estimate for the next decade under the Affordable Care Act that lowers the enrollment projection by 40% in 2016. In fact, according to the CBO, next year’s enrollment is now expected to barely grow at all from 2015:

ObamaCare will enroll significantly fewer people than expected in 2016, ending the year with about 13 million customers, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said Monday.

The figure, which was included in an expansive budget report, is a decline of about 40 percent from last year’s enrollment prediction of about 20 million people.

The latest projections confirm the Obama administration’s previous assessment that fewer people are signing up as the marketplace closes in on its third enrollment season — the final one under President Obama.

[...]

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/26/cbo-2016-obamacare-enrollment-to-fall-short-of-projections-by-8-million/

CBO lowers estimated ObamaCare sign-ups by 40 percent

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/266949-cbo-lowers-forecast-for-obamacare-sign-ups-by-40-percent?elq_cid=1275946&x_id=

First of all, you can't exactly use thehill.com as a source anymore since this was your response to me the last time I used it as a source:

Markle wrote:You really need to wean yourself off your far left Socialist sites and branch out.  This email was just released with this latest flurry being released weekly.  Try to keep up.

So there's that.  But even if we put that aside for a second.  Let's actually read your article and see what it says.  

From the article:

The new report also underscores the challenges facing the incoming administration in reducing the uninsured rate after 2017. While the healthcare law has led to a historic low in the uninsured population, officials have struggled to further reduce that figure this year.

Read that, Markle.  The healthcare law has lead to a historic low in the uninsured population.  That is a success.

Next, why is the CBO estimating that less people will sign up in the exchanges?  Are they saying that less people in general will have health insurance?  No.  

From the article:

Many of the uninsured people who opt out of coverage on the exchanges are now expected to purchase insurance

“directly from an insurer instead,” the CBO said.

Markle, all you have done here is irrefutably prove two things:  1)  You can't argue anything on merit, so you instead attack the messenger - claiming that everything that doesn't confirm your worldview is a "far left socialist site".  Oddly enough, here you are citing the very "far left socialist site" - thehill - that you attack when anyone else uses it.  2) You can't read.

Thank you for another personal attack!

A miss of 40% is irrelevant to you and I understand why you would say such a thing.

Please see the above post for how that impacts the system.

Keep up the good work!

One more time for Markle.   I bolded and and increased the size of the key phrase there so that you won't miss it for a third time.

From your "far left socialist site":

Many of the uninsured people who opt out of coverage on the exchanges are now expected to purchase insurance “directly from an insurer instead,” the CBO said.

Let's see.  Lame duck President Obama EXPECTED there to be peace in Iraq when he pulled ALL our troops out of Iraq.  He EXPECTED to close GITMO  by January 2010.  He EXPECTED a lot of things, none of which have come to pass.

boards of FL wrote:You haven't addressed my post or subject matter of the thread there, Ole' Man Markle.

boards of FL wrote:

Markle wrote:
Let's see.  Lame duck President Obama EXPECTED there to be peace in Iraq when he pulled ALL our troops out of Iraq.  He EXPECTED to close GITMO  by January 2010.  He EXPECTED a lot of things, none of which have come to pass.

You haven't addressed my post or subject matter of the thread there, Ole' Man Markle.

Wordslinger wrote:All of which is moot, since Bernie Sanders will, as President, bring in single-payer health insurance.

We don't need Health Insurance Companies to make money off people's illnesses.  Fuck Health Insurance Profits.

Down with Health Insurers and Amerika Inc.!!

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:All of which is moot, since Bernie Sanders will, as President, bring in single-payer health insurance.

We don't need Health Insurance Companies to make money off people's illnesses.  Fuck Health Insurance Profits.

Down with Health Insurers and Amerika Inc.!!

Wordslinger wrote:Can Obamacare be improved?

Sure it can.

But even as it is, it is far superior to what we had before the ACA.


Somebody tell me why the hell we need Health Insurers at all.  We spend more for healthcare than any other modern nation, and our results are terrible.  Somebody tell me why we have to bend over backwards to bring huge profits to the drug companies.  Why are we paying ten times as much for a drug, when the same drug sells for so much less in Canada, Germany, France, etc?

Fuck Amerika Inc.!!

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Can Obamacare be improved?

Sure it can.

But even as it is, it is far superior to what we had before the ACA.


Somebody tell me why the hell we need Health Insurers at all.  We spend more for healthcare than any other modern nation, and our results are terrible.  Somebody tell me why we have to bend over backwards to bring huge profits to the drug companies.  Why are we paying ten times as much for a drug, when the same drug sells for so much less in Canada, Germany, France, etc?

Fuck Amerika Inc.!!

You must be so proud.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Can Obamacare be improved?

Sure it can.

But even as it is, it is far superior to what we had before the ACA.


Somebody tell me why the hell we need Health Insurers at all.  We spend more for healthcare than any other modern nation, and our results are terrible.  Somebody tell me why we have to bend over backwards to bring huge profits to the drug companies.  Why are we paying ten times as much for a drug, when the same drug sells for so much less in Canada, Germany, France, etc?

Fuck Amerika Inc.!!

You must be so proud.

It figures you're for the bloodsuckers instead of the American people. Thanks for again confirming your fascist perspective. I'm so proud? You bet! Like Bernie, I'm all for winning America back for the people and not the 1/10th of the 1% you genuflect to.

Tell us more why the big pharma companies are justified in robbing America .... we're all ears.

Fuck Amerika Inc.!

PkrBum wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Can Obamacare be improved?

Sure it can.

But even as it is, it is far superior to what we had before the ACA.


Somebody tell me why the hell we need Health Insurers at all.  We spend more for healthcare than any other modern nation, and our results are terrible.  Somebody tell me why we have to bend over backwards to bring huge profits to the drug companies.  Why are we paying ten times as much for a drug, when the same drug sells for so much less in Canada, Germany, France, etc?

Fuck Amerika Inc.!!

You must be so proud.

It figures you're for the bloodsuckers instead of the American people.  Thanks for again confirming your fascist perspective.  I'm so proud?  You bet!  Like Bernie, I'm all for winning America back for the people and not the 1/10th of the 1% you genuflect to.

Tell us more why the big pharma companies are justified in robbing America .... we're all ears.

Fuck Amerika Inc.!

Lol... Obamacaid is the poster child for fascism. Our healthcare is now a collusion of govt and enormous corps.

Congratulations comrade.

Wordslinger wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Can Obamacare be improved?

Sure it can.

But even as it is, it is far superior to what we had before the ACA.


Somebody tell me why the hell we need Health Insurers at all.  We spend more for healthcare than any other modern nation, and our results are terrible.  Somebody tell me why we have to bend over backwards to bring huge profits to the drug companies.  Why are we paying ten times as much for a drug, when the same drug sells for so much less in Canada, Germany, France, etc?

Fuck Amerika Inc.!!

You must be so proud.

It figures you're for the bloodsuckers instead of the American people.  Thanks for again confirming your fascist perspective.  I'm so proud?  You bet!  Like Bernie, I'm all for winning America back for the people and not the 1/10th of the 1% you genuflect to.

Tell us more why the big pharma companies are justified in robbing America .... we're all ears.

Fuck Amerika Inc.!

Lol... Obamacaid is the poster child for fascism. Our healthcare is now a collusion of govt and enormous corps.

Congratulations comrade.

Essentially we agree. But the ACA is better than what it superseded. We need to get the humongous profits out of health insurance and big pharma.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Can Obamacare be improved?

Sure it can.

But even as it is, it is far superior to what we had before the ACA.


Somebody tell me why the hell we need Health Insurers at all.  We spend more for healthcare than any other modern nation, and our results are terrible.  Somebody tell me why we have to bend over backwards to bring huge profits to the drug companies.  Why are we paying ten times as much for a drug, when the same drug sells for so much less in Canada, Germany, France, etc?

Fuck Amerika Inc.!!

You must be so proud.

[It figures you're for the bloodsuckers instead of the American people.  Thanks for again confirming your fascist perspective.  I'm so proud?  You bet!  Like Bernie, I'm all for winning America back for the people and not the 1/10th of the 1% you genuflect to.

Tell us more why the big pharma companies are justified in robbing America .... we're all ears.

Fuck Amerika Inc.!

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Can Obamacare be improved?

Sure it can.

But even as it is, it is far superior to what we had before the ACA.


Somebody tell me why the hell we need Health Insurers at all.  We spend more for healthcare than any other modern nation, and our results are terrible.  Somebody tell me why we have to bend over backwards to bring huge profits to the drug companies.  Why are we paying ten times as much for a drug, when the same drug sells for so much less in Canada, Germany, France, etc?

Fuck Amerika Inc.!!

You must be so proud.

[It figures you're for the bloodsuckers instead of the American people.  Thanks for again confirming your fascist perspective.  I'm so proud?  You bet!  Like Bernie, I'm all for winning America back for the people and not the 1/10th of the 1% you genuflect to.

Tell us more why the big pharma companies are justified in robbing America .... we're all ears.

Fuck Amerika Inc.!

Which country, no, I'll give you a dozen countries, have produced more life extending, life saving drugs, medical procedures and technology than the United States?

How much does it cost for a drug company to develop and bring to market a new drug?