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Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans

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2seaoat
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/27/donald-trumps-surge-is-heavily-reliant-on-less-educated-americans-heres-why/


GOP 2016! We're going after the dumb ones!


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How bout a comparison. How educated are the Hillary supporters? Do we have the stats on that?

2seaoat



Stupid is the current race in the Republican primary.  Who can say or do the most outlandish things to appeal to stupid people.  I would rather never get on the debate stage than to commit the moral desperation of Huckabee or Trump.  It is so butchmeup hysteria.....the rush for the stupid attention is neither presidential or a successful mode in the general election, and is certain to guarantee that Republicans will not be elected to the White House.

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Bob wrote:How bout a comparison.  How educated are the Hillary supporters?  Do we have the stats on that?


Look at their policies (or lack thereof) and what each party is talking about.  That should give you a good indication of the intelligence level of their supporters.


Climate change

Democrats - Agree with whatever consensus exists among the scientific community
Republicans - Climate change doesn't exist


Iran

Democrats - The current Iran deal
Republicans - War


Gross redistribution of wealth

Democrats - Incentivize corporate profit sharing by way of tax policy
Republicans - This isn't an issue that needs addressing


LGBT Community

Democrats - Gay people should have the right to marry
Republicans - Gay people should not have the right to marry because of the bible


Rebel flag

Democrats - Take it down
Republicans - Put it back up


Energy policy

Democrats - Set target goals for a transition to renewable energy by way of tax incentives and government loan programs
Republicans - Protect the fossil fuel industry


Religion

Democrats - Religion should be kept out of government and out of the science classroom
Republicans - Corporations can have religious beliefs which supersede your rights as an individual citizen.  Bronze-age creation myths should be taught in science classes.


Campaign finance

Democrats - Address the issue of dark money in politics.
Republicans - This isn't an issue that needs addressing


General strategy for getting elected

Democrats - Put forth ideas that will convince people to vote for you
Republicans - Redraw districts and disenfranchise various age and racial demographics by way of voter restriction laws


Healthcare

Democrats - Keep the ACA and possibly move to Medicare for All
Republicans - Repeal the ACA.  No alternative has been suggested


I could go on all day on these.  Republican forum members, feel free to clarify the republican positions here if you feel I have misstated them.  <---that was rhetorical.  None of our forum republicans can coherently communicate any policy idea that they support....which is further evidence supporting the line of reasoning that the republican party targets dumb people.  (Not that we needed any more evidence for that beyond Donald Trump leading the current pack of 16 deep in the clown car)


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But the whole point of your thread to start was the education level of the average Trump supporter.
If we don't know what the education level of the average Hillary supporter is we really can't make an apples to apples comparison on that.

I realize you think a progressive position on issues is intelligent and the conservative position is dumb.  But that's a subjective take on it.
William F. Buckley was conservative and he wasn't dumb.

My subjective take on it is Sarah Palin supporters and Nancy Pelosi supporters are both dumb. But again, that's just my opinion.

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Bob wrote:But the whole point of your thread to start was the education level of the average Trump supporter.
If we don't know what the education level of the average Hillary supporter is we really can't make an apples to apples comparison on that.

I realize you think a progressive position on issues is intelligent and the conservative position is dumb.  But that's a subjective take on it.
William F. Buckley was conservative and he wasn't dumb.

My subjective take on it is Sarah Palin supporters and Nancy Pelosi supporters are both dumb.  But again,  that's just my opinion.  


Fair enough. If I find any polls that lay out the education levels of Clinton supporters, I'll let you know. Until then, we can look to policy positions as a good indicator. If you feel that things like ignoring science that is a direct threat to humanity and regularly pushing for pre-emptive war instead of diplomacy are not good indicators of intelligence (or a lack thereof), there probably isn't much that I could say to you to convince you otherwise.


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When Hillary was in college she was the President of the Young Republicans.
Wouldn't she be dumb too?

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Bob wrote:When Hillary was in college she was the President of the Young Republicans.
Wouldn't she be dumb too?  


That would depend upon her positions and her ability to reason.


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Here's the ugly bottom line.

When your own party LEADERS, call you STUPID, the discussion is over.

As the Progressives here are desperate to forget. That the architect of ObamaCare, REPEATEDLY called those who support ObamaCare...STUPID.

Anything else?

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Markle wrote:Here's the ugly bottom line.

When your own party LEADERS, call you STUPID, the discussion is over.

As the Progressives here are desperate to forget.  That the architect of ObamaCare, REPEATEDLY called those who support ObamaCare...STUPID.

Anything else?



Bob, notice that he doesn't take issue with any of the republican positions that I laid out.

Markle, can you name any policy that you support?


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Here's another question. Have either of you EVER, even once, shared the same position on any issue whatsoever involving the Federal Government?

I've had the same position as Markle on some things and the same position as you on some things.

Of course that is why Ann Coulter says my IQ is no higher than that of a toaster. But all that means is she's just bigoted against retards.



Markle

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boards of FL wrote:
Markle wrote:Here's the ugly bottom line.

When your own party LEADERS, call you STUPID, the discussion is over.

As the Progressives here are desperate to forget.  That the architect of ObamaCare, REPEATEDLY called those who support ObamaCare...STUPID.

Anything else?



Bob, notice that he doesn't take issue with any of the republican positions that I laid out.  

Markle, can you name any policy that you support?

Because you are not accurate about the positions. No reason to comment, just let you play your childish games.

2seaoat



Because you are not accurate about the positions. No reason to comment, just let you play your childish games.

There is nothing childish about debunking dangerous traitorous propaganda.  However, I would agree that a child could do it......sophomoric and idiotic is not hard to debunk.

Sal

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Bob wrote:When Hillary was in college she was the President of the Young Republicans.
Wouldn't she be dumb too?  

Republicans are much, much dumber than they used to be.

This is not debatable.

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I was looking for demographics of Clinton supporters, but haven't had any luck. I did find a breakdown by party affiliation

http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/

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Bob wrote:Here's another question.  Have either of you EVER,  even once,  shared the same position on any issue whatsoever involving the Federal Government?



I don't believe I have ever agreed with Markle on anything.

Or, more correctly stated, I don't believe I have ever agreed with Markle's copy-and-paste material on anything.


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Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Markle wrote:Here's the ugly bottom line.

When your own party LEADERS, call you STUPID, the discussion is over.

As the Progressives here are desperate to forget.  That the architect of ObamaCare, REPEATEDLY called those who support ObamaCare...STUPID.

Anything else?



Bob, notice that he doesn't take issue with any of the republican positions that I laid out.  

Markle, can you name any policy that you support?

Because you are not accurate about the positions.  No reason to comment, just let you play your childish games.



Well, can you clarify which ones are accurate and then more correctly state the republican position? This is an opportunity for you to sell the republican position on all of these issues.

Or, can you simply name any - any - policy that you support?


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