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Snark Spigot wrote:The problem is that there are so many guns, and they are so readily available to anyone who wants one.
I'm not sure what the answer is for America, because Americans are so fucking crazy about the whole issue.
But, don't pretend gun control can't work.
It can and does in other places.
But, it requires gun confiscation, and that just ain't gonna fly here.
Bob wrote:Snark Spigot wrote:The problem is that there are so many guns, and they are so readily available to anyone who wants one.
I'm not sure what the answer is for America, because Americans are so fucking crazy about the whole issue.
But, don't pretend gun control can't work.
It can and does in other places.
But, it requires gun confiscation, and that just ain't gonna fly here.
Actually I agree with every word in your post. But what trumps it all is your mention of "other places". And your understanding that this place aint "other places". And this place aint like no other places on this.
This country has been a gun frontier all it's life. It was a gun frontier when it started, it has always been a gun frontier, and it will remain a gun frontier.
No matter how good intended gun laws are, and if they would work I'd quickly do a flip-flop on all this, but as I said earlier, prohibition of guns IN THIS COUNTRY will work as well as prohibition of alcohol.
If anyone wants to dispute this then give me chapter and verse when you do. Where and what gun laws in America have significantly reduced gun crime. If you can convince me using that as your argument then you might could change my mind.
Snark Spigot wrote:
Australia was a gun frontier too.
I think the difference is the distrust in government. [/font]
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/14/america-mass-murder-australia-gun-control-saves-lives
TEOTWAWKI wrote:"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
Snark Spigot wrote:
This is the real reason he's out ...[/font]
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