Another Mass Shooting--in Lafayette Lousiana Movie Theater

2seaoat wrote:I was an Eagle Scout.  I began shooting with my family on weekends when I was  five years old shooting a .22 pistol and .22 rifle at targets.  In scouting I won sharpshooting competitions and got NRA awards from competitive shooting.  NRA sponsored gun safety programs which I participated.  I hunted with my father.  My father kept our guns in a locked up gun case, and was a stickler for gun safety.  Guns were part of my fondest memories of my father who died when I was 10.  My father NEVER had a gun for protection, or a loaded weapon in the house for the same.  He was an expert marksman.

Today, I have a double barreled shotgun which my cousin gave me after he explained my father had given his dad the gun over sixty years ago.  I have a semi automatic rifle, and another shotgun.  I have no hand guns because in all my competitions which included pistol, I learned how difficult it is to become proficient with a pistol.  My guns are not loaded.  They are primarily used for vermin and hunting, and NOT protection.  I was never scared of the boogeyman as a child, and I am not scared of it as an adult.  I believe there is a simple solution to gun violence in America.

All firearms in America need to be microchipped and registered.  People can transfer guns only by proper ATF forms, and that at the time of transfer, the gun must have a certified chip installed.  My only additional burden on a gun owner is that all guns must NOT be concealed and must be carried or transported in cases which are bright orange.  A case strapped on a person must be visible and closed.  No weapon may be transported loaded, and the ammunition must be in the case and if a weapon is going to be fired, it must have a biometric trigger lock which only allows the person or persons set forth in the ATF transfer form.  So if my wife and I take the shotgun in the car it must be in a case, unloaded, and with a biometric trigger lock which works with my fingerprint or my wife's. 

Any business or public place may ban firearms from being brought into their establishment.  Conceal and carry permits will only be issued to licensed security personnel, police, and PIs under strict guidelines.  However, all citizens can transport their guns freely on their person or in their vehicles in public areas which allow firearms.
As a life long gun owner, I find these inconveniences minor considering that gun deaths are now over taking auto deaths.   We made autos safer, and we can make guns safer.   The NRA was once the champion of safety, but greed and avarice has turned a once noble organizations into an evil lobby of death.

2seaoat wrote:If you just pull the progressive cities with the strongest gun control laws out of the mix the US had a very low rate.

What are your statistical controls to make this statement?

Has the violent crime rate increased or decreased since more law abiding citizens own guns?

Is the violent crime rate higher or lower in gun free West European countries?

Again moronic statistical controls.  The crime rate has been plunging for thirty years and that is largely because younger people commit crimes, and the babyboom bubble which impacts the labor participation rate also impacts dropping crime rates.......Mr. Markle and his gangsta oldsters are going steal cars.......Now your old simpleton European comparison where Europe uses proproperty crimes as violent crimes and America does not and you think people are stupid.....not that I have not pointed this out to you ten times....but you are bored.....
Boring people are a reflection of boring people.

Bob wrote:Markle,  if that is all fact,  this is one time you've educated me about something.
I had no idea the UK was that violent.

2seaoat wrote:Bob could have stopped this shooting after the first shot.....he would have reached into his cargo pants and threw a can of coke at the perp, and before the shooter could adjust he would knock him out with a box of jumbo milk duds(stale bought at garage sale two years earlier)........guns do not kill.....milk duds do.

We demand fresh dates on milk duds.....do you think we can put reasonable controls on guns?

2seaoat wrote:“He was crazy,” Ms. Bone said outside the home where Mr. Houser flew the Confederate battle flag. “But I didn’t think he would kill someone.”
Mr. Ramsel said that Mr. Houser, cultivated a reputation as “somewhat of an anarchist.”

Bob wrote:From the time I was 16 until I got to be 21,  I bought all the beer I wanted from Sam.  Sam had a little bar in a house near the corner of Alcaniz St and Texar Dr.  Next door to the bar he had a little church running out of another small house.   His religion was part christian and part hoodoo.
Whenever we went there,  there were usually other teenagers buying six-packs too.
But the point is,  it was totally illegal for me to buy or possess alcohol all that time.

If you outlaw guns,  the same "Sams"  will get into the gun business pronto.  Alcohol and guns both are as central to American culture as apple pie and hot dogs.  People will have it one way or another.  Prohibition didn't work with alcohol and it won't work with guns.

ppaca wrote:

I do believe everyone in their right mind...

Bob wrote:

And speakin of wrastlin (which I so love to do),  has anybody seen what's happened to the most well known wrastler in the bizness?  They found out he used the "n" word 12 years ago and now he's history.  lol