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Vote No on Amendment 8

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Margin Call
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1Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Vote No on Amendment 8 9/11/2012, 7:54 pm

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http://www.au.org/content/florida-amendment-8

The goal of Amendment 8 is to allow taxpayer money to flow to religious schools and houses of worship. Passage of the Amendment would strip the religious freedom protections currently enshrined in the Florida Constitution, thus allowing for direct funding of religious organizations that provide faith-based social services and opening the door to taxpayer funded vouchers for religious schools.

2Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/11/2012, 10:49 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Rogue wrote:http://www.au.org/content/florida-amendment-8

The goal of Amendment 8 is to allow taxpayer money to flow to religious schools and houses of worship. Passage of the Amendment would strip the religious freedom protections currently enshrined in the Florida Constitution, thus allowing for direct funding of religious organizations that provide faith-based social services and opening the door to taxpayer funded vouchers for religious schools.

I'm guessing Rick Scott thinks this will get him re-elected. I have no interest in subsidizing someone's church. I respect their right to worship, but I don't feel it's my job to fund it. In fact, I'm so tired of churches politicizing the pulpit that I think any church that does so should lose its tax-exempt status.

3Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 7:42 am

Margin Call

Margin Call

Floridatexan wrote:
Rogue wrote:http://www.au.org/content/florida-amendment-8

The goal of Amendment 8 is to allow taxpayer money to flow to religious schools and houses of worship. Passage of the Amendment would strip the religious freedom protections currently enshrined in the Florida Constitution, thus allowing for direct funding of religious organizations that provide faith-based social services and opening the door to taxpayer funded vouchers for religious schools.

I'm guessing Rick Scott thinks this will get him re-elected. I have no interest in subsidizing someone's church. I respect their right to worship, but I don't feel it's my job to fund it. In fact, I'm so tired of churches politicizing the pulpit that I think any church that does so should lose its tax-exempt status.

If religious institutions and secular institutions are held to the same regulatory standards, meaning there are no exclusions or special treatment for certain religious beliefs, then I see the added choice as a benefit to those using those services.

4Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 7:57 am

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Guest

Floridatexan wrote:
Rogue wrote:http://www.au.org/content/florida-amendment-8

The goal of Amendment 8 is to allow taxpayer money to flow to religious schools and houses of worship. Passage of the Amendment would strip the religious freedom protections currently enshrined in the Florida Constitution, thus allowing for direct funding of religious organizations that provide faith-based social services and opening the door to taxpayer funded vouchers for religious schools.

I'm guessing Rick Scott thinks this will get him re-elected. I have no interest in subsidizing someone's church. I respect their right to worship, but I don't feel it's my job to fund it. In fact, I'm so tired of churches politicizing the pulpit that I think any church that does so should lose its tax-exempt status.

I dont know what this has to do with rick scott.

because if you looked at the link I gave you would see christians are against this admendment.

I would expect that you would be against this admendment as well ..

5Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 7:59 am

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Margin Call wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Rogue wrote:http://www.au.org/content/florida-amendment-8

The goal of Amendment 8 is to allow taxpayer money to flow to religious schools and houses of worship. Passage of the Amendment would strip the religious freedom protections currently enshrined in the Florida Constitution, thus allowing for direct funding of religious organizations that provide faith-based social services and opening the door to taxpayer funded vouchers for religious schools.

I'm guessing Rick Scott thinks this will get him re-elected. I have no interest in subsidizing someone's church. I respect their right to worship, but I don't feel it's my job to fund it. In fact, I'm so tired of churches politicizing the pulpit that I think any church that does so should lose its tax-exempt status.

If religious institutions and secular institutions are held to the same regulatory standards, meaning there are no exclusions or special treatment for certain religious beliefs, then I see the added choice as a benefit to those using those services.

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SAY YOU WANT GOV TO FUND RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES?

6Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 8:29 am

Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SAY YOU WANT GOV TO FUND RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES?

That is essentially the opposite of what I posted. However, the answer would be "it depends on the service being offered". Religion doesn't belong in science class but it might offer a drug addict a path to rehabilitation.

7Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 8:42 am

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Guest

Margin Call wrote:
Rogue wrote:
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SAY YOU WANT GOV TO FUND RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES?

That is essentially the opposite of what I posted. However, the answer would be "it depends on the service being offered". Religion doesn't belong in science class but it might offer a drug addict a path to rehabilitation.

Thank you for clarifying what you siad then. So you dont support this law?

Your being about clear as mud, sorry Neutral

8Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 9:04 am

Margin Call

Margin Call

Rogue wrote:

Your being about clear as mud, sorry Neutral

Reading comprehension isn't your "one special thing".

9Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 9:10 am

PBulldog2

PBulldog2

Rogue wrote:http://www.au.org/content/florida-amendment-8

The goal of Amendment 8 is to allow taxpayer money to flow to religious schools and houses of worship. Passage of the Amendment would strip the religious freedom protections currently enshrined in the Florida Constitution, thus allowing for direct funding of religious organizations that provide faith-based social services and opening the door to taxpayer funded vouchers for religious schools.

Rick Scott strongly support school vouchers. I didn't know if you knew that. I had to look it up mysef

10Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 9:23 am

Sal

Sal

Rogue wrote:thus allowing for direct funding of religious organizations that provide faith-based social services and opening the door to taxpayer funded vouchers for religious schools.

When you're right you're right, and this is 100% correct.

Vote no.

Good thread, Chrissy.

11Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 10:08 am

Guest


Guest

I vote yes for the amendment.

12Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 10:34 am

Margin Call

Margin Call

Providing choices does not equate to the government establishing a religion. As long as we establish equal standards across all participating institutions and assess results against those standards, the service recipients benefit. BTW, thousands of kids are currently attending the government-funded Voluntary Pre-K program today, learning their A-B-Cs at religious institutions across the state.

13Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 10:35 am

Yella

Yella

Churches and preachers should be investigated under RICO laws. And should definitely be paying taxes.

http://warpedinblue,blogspot.com/

14Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 11:45 am

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Guest

PBulldog2 wrote:
Rogue wrote:http://www.au.org/content/florida-amendment-8

The goal of Amendment 8 is to allow taxpayer money to flow to religious schools and houses of worship. Passage of the Amendment would strip the religious freedom protections currently enshrined in the Florida Constitution, thus allowing for direct funding of religious organizations that provide faith-based social services and opening the door to taxpayer funded vouchers for religious schools.

Rick Scott strongly support school vouchers. I didn't know if you knew that. I had to look it up mysef

maybe so, this has nothing to do with rick scott as far as I am concerned. I havnt heard rick scott come out in favor of this and if he does, I wont support it.

this has to do with allowing our Gov to funnel money to religous organizations. Its not just school vouchers.

This is not acceptable and must be stopped. re;ligions need to be supported SOLEY based on thier suporters. and the duties of the state such as schools needs to be funded by our tax $. If private schools want to start a school or whatever they want, again, let their members pay for that.

This will be a can of worms so best to just stop it now and vote no on it.

15Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 11:56 am

Sal

Sal

It's a cleverly written bill to allow vouchers for religious schools through the back door. Vote no.

Evil or Very Mad

16Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 11:57 am

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Guest

cheers cheers
Yella wrote:Churches and preachers should be investigated under RICO laws. And should definitely be paying taxes.
cheers cheers

17Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 1:10 pm

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People that send kids to parochial schools should fund the school themselves AND pay taxes to fund public schools. No one guaranteed that life was going to be fair.

Public money should not go to fund religious schools and religious schools do not want the government money that has strings attached.

18Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 1:18 pm

Margin Call

Margin Call

I think this discussion should use the realistic premise that some religious institutions would be ineffective at offering educational services just as the current public school system also fails to offer effective instruction to students in many places. The focus should be on benchmarking without making exceptions for religious institutions and their beliefs.

19Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 1:33 pm

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Margin Call wrote:I think this discussion should use the realistic premise that some religious institutions would be ineffective at offering educational services just as the current public school system also fails to offer effective instruction to students in many places. The focus should be on benchmarking without making exceptions for religious institutions and their beliefs.

Actually I think the focus of this thread is clear, precise and not clear as mud as all of your replies have been so far.

This thread is about weather or not we should vote to allow ANY of our TAXES to go to ANY religous institution, be it school vouchers or ETC.

How about a yea or nay vote from you on if you support this law or not?

Is there a "ALL OF A SUDDEN" love for government and religion to be mixed?

20Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 2:07 pm

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Guest

If the AU had its way, there'd be no military chaplains or prison chaplains.

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/a_question_of_faith/

21Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 2:18 pm

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BP wrote:If the AU had its way, there'd be no military chaplains or prison chaplains.

http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/a_question_of_faith/

This isnt about removing chaplains.

this is about if you want your tax dollars to be given to religous venues. I say keep them seperate.

at what point did this group of people become so involved in supporting our tax dollars going to religous entities?

I dont get it.

22Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 11:14 pm

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Margin Call wrote:Providing choices does not equate to the government establishing a religion. As long as we establish equal standards across all participating institutions and assess results against those standards, the service recipients benefit. BTW, thousands of kids are currently attending the government-funded Voluntary Pre-K program today, learning their A-B-Cs at religious institutions across the state.


It provides supporting a religion and if we do that then we might as well allow prayer in public schools. All kinds of freak religions will come up wanting gov. money.

23Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/12/2012, 11:51 pm

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Guest

Nay. No gubment money funding parochial (religious) schools.

24Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/13/2012, 12:27 am

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Why should the government be involved in education at all?

Why should people be FORCED to pay for the education of others?

Perhaps the government should be the one to be forced out of the education business.

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25Vote No on Amendment 8 Empty Re: Vote No on Amendment 8 9/13/2012, 7:58 am

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Damaged Eagle wrote:Why should the government be involved in education at all?

Why should people be FORCED to pay for the education of others?

Perhaps the government should be the one to be forced out of the education business.

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I have no problem with a public school system. The country is benefitted by having its population educated.

Let it be known I am not against Christians by coming out against this law. Just the oposit. This law will set up a premis for our gov to have more control over christian organizations.

not only that it will set us up to having all kinds of religions, some that may not be very popular to get our tax dollars. You know, like using our tax dollars to build mosque.

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