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WHY? Americans held in Iran not part of nuke deal

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Markle

Markle
WHY?

Americans held in Iran not part of nuke deal


Published July 14, 2015
·FoxNews.com

The United States may have just lost its best leverage to secure the release of four citizens held in Iran.

Monday’s nuclear agreement with Iran includes no provisions for the release of three Americans known to be detained in Iran and a fourth thought to be held captive by the Islamic Republic.

“What happened today makes a bad deal even worse,” said Jay Sekulow, chief counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice. “We will now focus our attention on convincing Congress to reject this deal.”


"They are husbands, fathers, sons, and brothers. Do not forget them”

- Naghmeh Abedini, wife of American held in Iran

[...]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/07/14/do-not-forget-them-americans-held-in-iran-not-part-nuke-deal/

2seaoat


For the same reason President Reagan did not derail the arms talks with the Soviet Union because of their bad behavior.  He spoke of them as the "evil empire" and found no tolerance for their behavior, but reductions of nuclear weapons was far more important and that  was the brilliance of Reagan in foreign policy.  This was not about hezbolla, or American prisoners, like the evil empire without exception Americans know that Iran is an evil empire, but the brilliance of Reagan and Obama is keeping their eye on the ball, and not letting the folks on the sideline detour and destroy the goal of reducing risks from nuclear war.

Sorry, Fox News and the sorry senators of Butchmeup and Tom traitor Cotton will not change the reality of the importance of this coalition victory, nor will they or Israel change the what is most important.....not people yelling death to America, but taking away the tools of death from dangerous people.   This is strictly a matter of intelligence.

Markle

Markle
2seaoat wrote:For the same reason President Reagan did not derail the arms talks with the Soviet Union because of their bad behavior.  He spoke of them as the "evil empire" and found no tolerance for their behavior, but reductions of nuclear weapons was far more important and that  was the brilliance of Reagan in foreign policy.  This was not about hezbolla, or American prisoners, like the evil empire without exception Americans know that Iran is an evil empire, but the brilliance of Reagan and Obama is keeping their eye on the ball, and not letting the folks on the sideline detour and destroy the goal of reducing risks from nuclear war.

Sorry, Fox News and the sorry senators of Butchmeup and Tom traitor Cotton will not change the reality of the importance of this coalition victory, nor will they or Israel change the what is most important.....not people yelling death to America, but taking away the tools of death from dangerous people.   This is strictly a matter of intelligence.

So far as I can recall, the Soviet Union was not holding any hostages or torturing any of our citizens.

You also seem to have conveniently "forgotten" that President Ronald Reagan, against the advice of all his walked out of the talks in Iceland.

Keep up the good work, faithfully you continue to be one of the best foils here.

2seaoat


So far as I can recall, the Soviet Union was not holding any hostages or torturing any of our citizens.

You also seem to have conveniently "forgotten" that President Ronald Reagan, against the advice of all his walked out of the talks in Iceland.


Oh, so you now recognize that those long negotiations which just days ago you ridiculed as not being able to be fruitful, you now recognize how negotiations work........Reagan was not concerned with the details of what made the Evil empire, but reducing Nuclear threats, and after the deal....by golly the Soviets made real political change.......oh oh Mr. Markle.....what could be coming?

Markle

Markle
2seaoat wrote:So far as I can recall, the Soviet Union was not holding any hostages or torturing any of our citizens.

You also seem to have conveniently "forgotten" that President Ronald Reagan, against the advice of all his walked out of the talks in Iceland.


Oh, so you now recognize that those long negotiations which just days ago you ridiculed as not being able to be fruitful, you now recognize how negotiations work........Reagan was not concerned with the details of what made the Evil empire, but reducing Nuclear threats, and after the deal....by golly the Soviets made real political change.......oh oh Mr. Markle.....what could be coming?

Of course negotiations work. You have to have a strong, intelligent negotiator as we did with President Reagan.

With semi-retired President Obama, we have the Minions "negotiating". Iran funds international terrorism, has American's hostages and, this administration has said there will be more terrorist attacks.

Great job.

Guest


Guest
2seaoat wrote:For the same reason President Reagan did not derail the arms talks with the Soviet Union because of their bad behavior.  He spoke of them as the "evil empire" and found no tolerance for their behavior, but reductions of nuclear weapons was far more important and that  was the brilliance of Reagan in foreign policy.  This was not about hezbolla, or American prisoners, like the evil empire without exception Americans know that Iran is an evil empire, but the brilliance of Reagan and Obama is keeping their eye on the ball, and not letting the folks on the sideline detour and destroy the goal of reducing risks from nuclear war.

Sorry, Fox News and the sorry senators of Butchmeup and Tom traitor Cotton will not change the reality of the importance of this coalition victory, nor will they or Israel change the what is most important.....not people yelling death to America, but taking away the tools of death from dangerous people.   This is strictly a matter of intelligence.

Logical fallacy Seaoat. Russia wasn't holding four innocent Americans hostage. Iran is.

Guest


Guest
Remember when iran held those embassy hostages through the carter presidency and then released them as reagan took office? No... I didn't think so. Seagoat must think he has some insight into that culture... that is as naive as obama.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:For the same reason President Reagan did not derail the arms talks with the Soviet Union because of their bad behavior.  He spoke of them as the "evil empire" and found no tolerance for their behavior, but reductions of nuclear weapons was far more important and that  was the brilliance of Reagan in foreign policy.  This was not about hezbolla, or American prisoners, like the evil empire without exception Americans know that Iran is an evil empire, but the brilliance of Reagan and Obama is keeping their eye on the ball, and not letting the folks on the sideline detour and destroy the goal of reducing risks from nuclear war.

Sorry, Fox News and the sorry senators of Butchmeup and Tom traitor Cotton will not change the reality of the importance of this coalition victory, nor will they or Israel change the what is most important.....not people yelling death to America, but taking away the tools of death from dangerous people.   This is strictly a matter of intelligence.

So far as I can recall, the Soviet Union was not holding any hostages or torturing any of our citizens.

You also seem to have conveniently "forgotten" that President Ronald Reagan, against the advice of all his walked out of the talks in Iceland.

Keep up the good work, faithfully you continue to be one of the best foils here.

We haven't forgotten Iran/Contra either...but apparently Seaoat has.

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Guest


Guest
Wow, I think you have gotten the issue confused Floridatexan.

Iran/Contra was AFTER the hostages were released oh around 84-85. Iran was sold weapons and Congress used the money to fund freedom fighters in Nicaragua who were against the Godless communists led by Daniel Ortega.

The hostages held from 1979 to inauguration day 1981 were released many years before Iran/Contra.

I know it is easy to get confused over facts when you think you have a "gotcha" moment. You're the only one "gotten" here in your desperation to ridicule and change the topic about your POTUS.

Guest


Guest
So, Democrats, why weren't the hostages part of the deal? If the deal was so important, how could they not have been? Were they not as valuable as a traitor such as Bowe Bergdahl? One PVT E-2 (not going to even address a deserter as SGT) for five Taliban generals? Was that the sort of swap that sends a tingle down your leg? Why aren't these Americans worth trading for Iranian nukes?

Vikingwoman


The "taliban generals" which they weren't were going to be released anyway in a year. We could not hold them so it was a good trade.

Markle

Markle
PkrBum wrote:Remember when iran held those embassy hostages through the carter presidency and then released them as reagan took office? No... I didn't think so. Seagoat must think he has some insight into that culture... that is as naive as Obama.

Fifty four hostages for 444 days.

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